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Aren't the Pistons of too low impedance to be driven from the Bravo Audio Ocean?  Some were saying it was a good combo a bit earlier in the thread.  I've got a 70ohm resistor adapter.  Does anyone know I would be better off using that if trying to drive them from the Bravo?

My Nexus 5 has very low gain, so it works well on it. Running a Sylvania tube, but switching to a Genalex Gold Lion later.

 

A resistor will usually modify the sound signature.

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pretty much describing the im-02s, lol.

 

Then again, I have no idea since bass is not that prominent, and I have no idea how the two compare.

 

Nice impressions btw!

 

I also found out...

 

the way you wear the re-700s can affect the imaging of the soundstage, as well as the mikros...

 

Pretty weird actually, I thought wearing it directly on the center of the ears made the imagery the same as the mikros, but it doesn't. 

 

I guess I wasn't wearing the mikros right either I believe...

Some on ears can be a pain to get the correct fit.  I probably didn't get the full spectrum of sound from my one hour audition.  Seems I will be able to hear them again with a more comfortable mod.  The AT IM-series must be good ones and improved from the older models and same with the RE's.  Maybe you need to get the TE-05's to compare for us or settle for the V's.  Thankfully Eric will be chiming in tomorrow with his impressions to help you decide.  ;)

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That definitely isn't favorable then..


I can see why people don't like on-ears..

 

The fit, sometimes the pain from the fit, etc etc...

 

The IM series are pretty good to be honest, I wish I had the 03 to compare the 02s...

 

But the V and the fostex are more appealing, and who knows? Thankfully for everyone here that eric will definitely share his impressions.

 

UNFORTUNATELY for ME, I won't be smiling at my empty wallet after I choose either iem to enjoy and compare to the collection, lol.

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Like I said it sounds like a hybrid iem😎...mids and treble sound armuture like and bass is dynamic 😊💕
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Can't wait for my upgrade cable which is a hybrid mix😎...will the shure input fit the te-05 is my question 😞
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I tried the Oyaide Shure cable with it and it fit fine but everytime the cable moved, signal would cut out momentarily.  

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Thanks for the impressions mochill and dannybai! Those fostex's seem to be my type of sound.
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Not sure if the TE-05 is natural or what but I believe mochill also describes the Cardas ear speakers as natural.  Both sound completely different to me so they could both be natural in different ways.  Either way, he's right about the praises he gives the TE-05's.  After 24 hours of burn in, these sound a little fuller than out of box.  Bass sounds a little more prominent but it's very controlled.  Better texture than the Doppio's and possibly more natural.  Midrange is fantastic.  Vocals have an airy presence.  Treble is quite extended but I haven't noticed much fatigue, especially today compared to yesterday.  The sound almost has an armature driver type of sound, it's that clear and clean.  Not overly analytical and flat, there's some warmth and I can enjoy the music.  Although I haven't compared side by side, this sounds like a baby TH900 with less bass.  
pretty much describing the im-02s, lol.

Then again, I have no idea since bass is not that prominent, and I have no idea how the two compare.

Nice impressions Dan man! beerchug.gif  Glad to hear that they sound somewhat full, and that the bass texture is actually better than a double ba earphone! I want to hear the midrange now.... I know that the female voices on the im-02s are outstanding, and males don't get that behind it either...



I also found out...

the way you wear the re-700s can affect the imaging of the soundstage, as well as the mikros...

Pretty weird actually, I thought wearing it directly on the center of the ears made the imagery the same as the mikros, but it doesn't. 

I guess I wasn't wearing the mikros correctly either I believe...

This is what I've been saying all along, at least about the ML's. the littlest shift in position makes a major difference in how they sound. I remember there was a post, I believe in the Mikros dedicated thread, with a diagram of the ear anatomy, with detailed directions on placing the ML's. I searched the site now for a long while (it is rediculously long, 90 pages or so), but I couldn't find the exact link for it. Hopefully, when I get those headphones and do over the pad pad mod (like the sound of that), the placement will be less delicate, but that remains to be seen.
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I didn't think the soundstage could be affected...

 

Thanks doctor, that's the only thing I heard change actually, which is weird...

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I remember having the same discussion at the mdr1r thread. The position also greatly affects the sound on those headphones. Most drastic change is the soundstage and treble extension.
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OK, I hear it differently, the main changes I hear are the bass amount with changes in position (though I'm often outside dog walking, not the best time for evaluating soundstage and that sort of subtlety...bass definitely changes for me with little shifts).
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that bass change is another I also agree with. I just didn't mention it since we've mentioned that before, lol. Nice song you pmed btw, I loved the trumpets, OH MAN THEY SOUNDED GODLY WITH THE MIKROS.

 

Sorry. *coughs*

 

Even the re700s did the same type of enjoyment.

 

Now on to the last jazz rock posted!

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Never mind, vlenbo, I went over to the end of the ML thread, see you saw the diagram beerchug.gif
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Enjoy the beauties 💕😎
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Onto the Schiit Vali front......

 

The Vali is pretty damn clean and transparent and is only slightly warm it seems, cuz when hooked up to my more neutral Audinst MX1 amp/dac i only detect a little bit of extra warmth when i listen with my Beyer DT-250. AND HELLS YES, the DT-250 SOUNDS SWEET with that setup. Like it much better then connceted via my Sansa Clip+/ FiiO E17 amp combo. Haven't tried the DT-250s with the FiiO E17 dac via my desktop setup but it should sound pretty good, probably wouldn't best the Audinst MX1s dac......

 

 

On the Logans front....

 

The FiiO E17s which i assume has a warm/ punchier/ and more "color" dac connected to the Schiit Vali amp brings home the bacon outta' these Logans boi!!! :basshead:

 

Even with the stock cable the bass punch, weight and QUANTITY increased by a pretty substantial amount. It's like the stock cable sound on roids!!! :eek: The must musical, audiophile basshead worthy i have heard these Logans, color me truly AMAZED regarding how well these scale and adapt to different sources.

 

Via the very neutral Audinst  MX1 amp/dac sounded alright when hooked to the Vali but the extra warmth of the FiiO E17 dac with the Vali is UBER SWEET!!!!:L3000:

 

 

For those that feel that these Logans sounds a bit thin/lean in the bass department if you have a powerful DAP/AMP that has a clean and warm sound such as the FiiO X3s or the E12 it might just make these Logans sound very musical even with the stock cable. There seems to more changes in sound from change of amps/dacs than from cable changes. Well at least the changes in sound is more dramatic with sources...... 

 

Will see how they gel with a brighter DAC such as the ELE DAC later on. :)

 

Cuz saving the best for last. ;) 

 

edit: oh the Vali only rings for like 30 secs or so when you 1st plug your cans in, also rings a very very slightly when you touch their knob to adjust the volume and if you tap on the unit it will ring which is a given but even when i bang on my table it doesn't ring which is nice but my table is pretty damn sturdy/ heavy. haha  I don't detect any wifi/ cellphone interference even though my cellphone is pretty close to it as well as my router so.......  Nothing major really.


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/12/14 at 10:04pm
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