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This IEMagnet guy did. :)

http://www.head-fi.org/t/663709/vsonic-vsd1-vsd1s-reviews-impression-thread/1695#post_10174260

http://www.head-fi.org/t/663709/vsonic-vsd1-vsd1s-reviews-impression-thread/1665#post_10156611

http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-zero-audio-doppios-pg1197-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/19905#post_10187687

But nevermind, the sound is a personal preference at the end of the day so we all are different. If Pistons are close to VSD1S with just a bit more sub-bass I'll be happy considering the price and build qulity. Oh, and if they are working with my Lumia phone.

 

^ Sweet diggin' meng. It's obvious he went FULL/ COMPLETE_retard on these Pistons as he seems to do with A LOT of the new gears he gets then later do a complete 180 and starts to rip on them as he did to those Deltas. The dood is a "bit" off if you ask me tbh. :rolleyes:

 

A shame as well cuz he seems to be able to articulate himself pretty well........... but seems to be full of it. haha

 

 

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The usual suspects iemagnet and I think mochil stated they were even better than gr07 (might be wrong on the latter but I'm too drunk to check). Anyway, the Pistons are definitely better than R1 but nowhere near most of the hype. And yeah, the stock tips are quite sub-par and flimsy but honestly I didn't like them with the sony hybrids too. I did quite a bit of tip swapping and I'm still undecided but it's probably between the R1's stocj single flanges and the brainwavz B2's single flanges. There is definitely some weird tip synergy given that the Pistons sound more congested with some tips with wider bore but for some strange reason sound fine with others that have narrower bore.

Overall, not only is the bass a tad too much but also isn't tight enough and is a bit on the soft side and the highs aren't exactly my cup of tea - a bit dull and artificial and low on sparkle. The pistons do have some things going on for them like above average depth and nice string instrument timbre but aren't exactly giant killers. I wouldn't have said anything if the hype hadn't gone "slightly" overboard with these. I'll personally pick the VSD1S any day over the Pistons - it sounds more natural, has tighter and punchier bass and the treble has more energy and is sweeter and has a lot more sparkle.

^ From what i remember IEM dood said these Pistons bests the VSD1s and many if not all IEMs under $50 or even $100, while Chill said they are on par with the DN1000s initially. LMAO

 

And yeah i didn't like them with the Sony hybrid tips or the MH1C tips as well. Kinda off sounding to me with those, and i found wide bore tips was the best cuz it made the sound less congested but was still wayyy too warm/ soft for my taste. The UE tips sounded the best on the Pistons but i wasn't really that impressed with them regardless of the tips used. The new mod ideas seems promising though. :)

 

Ericp seems to really enjoy gears that has a more warm/ mellow sound siggy, hence i can understand his praise for these Pistons and why he loves the KEF M200s so much as well. So i can see why he is such a big JVC fan aslo. But i am kinda a bit dumbfounded by bhazard's praise for these Pistons cuz supposedly he enjoys more of a cleaner/ neutral sound siggy??? but these Pistons are anything but that. I am surprised he liked these Pistons over the Deltas tbh.


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/12/14 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

I would put the MA750 somewhere between the FXZ100 and ASG-1.  After the FI-BA-SS,  I would drop in the Doppios and then BA200 (they're different sound signatures but about even to my ears - favoring the Doppios just a little bit more though).

Interesting that you like the DN-1000 and H-200 more than Doppios.  Will have to keep those on my radar.

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But i am kinda a bit dumbfounded by bhazard's praise for these Pistons cuz supposedly he enjoys more of a cleaner/ neutral sound siggy??? but these Pistons are anything but that. I am surprised he liked these Pistons over the Deltas tbh.

Yep, I am a dead flat neutral signature fan (with the ability to cleanly bass boost when desired). Accudio and Viper4Android are my go to reference EQ tools.

 

Took quite a few tips, but the green hybrids seem to be the best for me.

 

It's the synergy. The Pistons just work extremely well with my equipment. I get a mic + controls and enough power without an amp when connected to my Nexus/iPhone, and I get a really energetic sound off my tube amps.

 

The Deltas... they were ok, but they were dull and not neutral (multiple peaks/dips to my ears). Lots of passages didn't sound right, and using their complys just muddied it up worse.

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I ordered Mikros 90 yesterday at 2pm and they arrived at my doorstep at 1:20pm today, less than 24 hours!  Will start the burn-in process tonight :D

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Originally Posted by BenF View Post
 


Nevermind, I tore off the nozzle filter with my pocket knife and removed the foam too.

Great improvement in clarity and the bass is tighter - highly recommend it.

I'll put in later a piece of a tea bag to prevent dust from getting in.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/703651/the-xiaomi-pistons-thread/90#post_10263185

 

This post showed a pretty good pic of the simplicity of the mod.  I'm going to give it a try after I finish my burn-in.

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

 

^ Sweet diggin' meng. It's obvious he went FULL/ COMPLETE_retard on these Pistons as he seems to do with A LOT of the new gears he gets then later do a complete 180 and starts to rip on them as he did to those Deltas. The dood is a "bit" off if you ask me tbh. :rolleyes:

 

A shame as well cuz he seems to be able to articulate himself pretty well........... but seems to be full of it. haha

 

 

^ From what i remember IEM dood said these Pistons bests the VSD1s and many if not all IEMs under $50 or even $100, while Chill said they are on par with the DN1000s initially. LMAO

 

And yeah i didn't like them with the Sony hybrid tips or the MH1C tips as well. Kinda off sounding to me with those, and i found wide bore tips was the best cuz it made the sound less congested but was still wayyy too warm/ soft for my taste. The UE tips sounded the best on the Pistons but i wasn't really that impressed with them regardless of the tips used. The new mod ideas seems promising though. :)

 

Ericp seems to really enjoy gears that has a more warm/ mellow sound siggy, hence i can understand his praise for these Pistons and why he loves the KEF M200s so much as well. So i can see why he is such a big JVC fan aslo. But i am kinda a bit dumbfounded by bhazard's praise for these Pistons cuz supposedly he enjoys more of a cleaner/ neutral sound siggy??? but these Pistons are anything but that. I am surprised he liked these Pistons over the Deltas tbh.

 

Yeah, I haven't check but I remember mochil stating something in the lines of the Pistons besting the gr07.  As I said the tips' synergy is kinda weird. For instance the meelec m6's tips which have wider bore than the sony hybrids and mh1's tips sound quite congested but the smaller bore R1's tips and b2's tips sound fine. I didn't like it that much with wide bore tips like the m9's ones or others like the Noble tips. They aren't actually that warm and the resolution is good but aside from the softer and too much in quantity bass, the highs are also off - a bit artificial and kinda dull - most likely a peak in the upper mids to add a bit of clarity and oomph to the mids and mostly string instruments but a dip in the lower treble and overall the sparkle is pretty low. As I said they are pretty decent but I think a lot of people bought them based on several overhyped statements looking for an upgrarde to iems that the Pistons do not best otherwise I wouldn't hve even commented on other people's opinion. Anyway, I see ibuygou have raised the price again to $25 but for the 20.99 I paid they'll make a nice gift to my my brother or a friend if he doesn't like them - I've paid more just for tips, so it's not like a wasted a lot of money based on the unrealistic hype.

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

Yep, I am a dead flat neutral signature fan (with the ability to cleanly bass boost when desired). Accudio and Viper4Android are my go to reference EQ tools.

 

Took quite a few tips, but the green hybrids seem to be the best for me.

 

It's the synergy. The Pistons just work extremely well with my equipment. I get a mic + controls and enough power without an amp when connected to my Nexus/iPhone, and I get a really energetic sound off my tube amps.

 

The Deltas... they were ok, but they were dull and not neutral (multiple peaks/dips to my ears). Lots of passages didn't sound right, and using their complys just muddied it up worse.

Well. that's weird. I found the hybrids made the treble quite unrealistic although they did add some tightness to the bass. Otherwise for cheap iems the Pisons will be pretty good for daily beaters if one needs mic and controls for his phone. And honestly I don't find the Deltas duller than the Pistons unless you're just referring to the bass quantity as with the rolled off and artificial treble the Pistons aren't much better. If anything the Deltas sound more balanced and refined - definitely not peaky and I am into balanced and neutral sound but you should probably check the er4s and Noble 4 ;) 


Edited by kova4a - 2/12/14 at 12:56pm
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My sanity check is $200 on an IEM. I didn't even feel the HE-500 was worth the $600 I paid, although it has been the best headphone I've heard so far.

 

Speaker audio has become far easier and cheaper to work with in getting reference sound. You can get a measurement mic and software for $99 which provides you with every measurement you can imagine. This just doesn't exist for headphones yet.

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

My sanity check is $200 on an IEM. I didn't even feel the HE-500 was worth the $600 I paid, although it has been the best headphone I've heard so far.

 

Speaker audio has become far easier and cheaper to work with in getting reference sound. You can get a measurement mic and software for $99 which provides you with every measurement you can imagine. This just doesn't exist for headphones yet.


Hmmm maybe give those Logans 90s a spin??? :deadhorse:

 

For $70-90 they are wroth a try, if they don't work out for you, you can always resell without much loss.

 

But if they do OH BOI!!! :basshead: 

 

A MUCH MUCH BETTER option than tossing your monies into that Chinese Cheapo abyss tbh.


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/12/14 at 1:55pm
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They(Logans) look terribly uncomfortable... but I just might be spoiled by Beyer comfort. biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 


Hmmm maybe give those Logans 90s a spin??? :deadhorse:

 

For $70-90 they are wroth a try, if they don't work out for you, you can always resell without much loss.

 

But if they do OH BOI!!! :basshead: 

 

A MUCH MUCH BETTER option than tossing your monies into that Chinese Cheapo abyss tbh.

+1

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They(Logans) look terribly uncomfortable... but I just might be spoiled by Beyer comfort. biggrin.gif

 

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well. Didn't stop me from getting sucked into the Mikros vortex though...

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They(Logans) look terribly uncomfortable... but I just might be spoiled by Beyer comfort. biggrin.gif


^ Speaking of the devil, was thinking of PMing you and ORDER you to buy these Logans ASAP. haha  There is always my pad over pad mod, doc should be getting his cheap set to be harvested in anytime now. Will see if those pads are different or not. Hope it is the same ones....

 

Oh how you liking your Vali btw, forgot to ask you how it gels with the ELE DAC and other dacs you. But i'll know soon enough cuz my set is due to come in today. hoho HYPED!!! Can't wait to hear how the Vali+Audinst MX1+Logans pair. :triportsad:

 

Have the E17 dac and the cheapo ELE DAC to try for funzies as well, man hope it will take my Beyer DT-250s to another level. :popcorn: 


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/12/14 at 2:05pm
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Bah... I might give them a try if I can unload some of my other HPs. Or at least the M-100s. Then I got some play money w/o the wife getting too upset. biggrin.gif
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^ Speaking of the devil, was thinking of PMing you and ORDER you to buy these Logans ASAP. haha  There is always my pad over pad mod, doc should be getting his cheap set to be harvested in anytime now. Will see if those pads are different or not. Hope it is the same ones....
I was avoiding this thread like a plague because of that IEM guy. Couldn't stand him. lol How is someone like that a teacher?? confused.gif
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Oh how you liking your Vali btw, forgot to ask you how it gels with the ELE DAC and other dacs you. But i'll know soon enough cuz my set is due to come in today. hoho HYPED!!! Can't wait to hear how the Vali+Audinst MX1+Logans pair. triportsad.gif

Have the E17 dac as well as the cheapo ELE DAC to try for funzies as well, man hope it will take my Beyer DT-250s to another level as well. popcorn.gif
Didn't get the Vali. Shenay backed out on me. He sold it to someone in Canadia. frown.gif Oh wellz. I got an NFB-12 instead. tongue.gif I still use the plastic ELE w/ my S3. It's nice with the M-100. Extra sparklez! M-100's soundstage is actually surprisingly wide. It still impresses me every now and then when DAT BASS isn't all in my face. cool.gif
Edited by MrEleventy - 2/12/14 at 2:10pm
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I was avoiding this thread like a plague because of that IEM guy. Couldn't stand him. lol How is someone like that a teacher?? confused.gif
Didn't get the Vali. Shenay backed out on me. He sold it to someone in Canadia. frown.gif Oh wellz. I got an NFB-12 instead. tongue.gif I still use the plastic ELE w/ my S3. It's nice with the M-100. Extra sparklez! M-100's soundstage is actually surprisingly wide. It still impresses me every now and then when DAT BASS isn't all in my face. cool.gif


^ Troll................  He sure did one on ya'. LMAO

 

Welp now you can hear all my spazzing on them then. haha Got them for $80 shipped so not bad at all for the Vali. :cool:

 

Hope they live up to their hype, cuz my weaksauce dacs probably don't even utilize 1/3 of the capabilities of the Vali if you catch my drift. ;) 

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