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whats the can70?


CKN70

Darn #@&/!$? Auto correct!
post #21302 of 32866
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You guys HAVE to buy the martin logans. They're pretty awesome in sound, and they produce the instruments and micro detailing faithfully for a former $300 headphone. Besides, it's going to be discontinued soon enough, so it can't hurt to try it.

So does this mean you now like them better than the re-700? That you've gone over to the dark side?

I actually do like them, especially at the close out prices, but I have others I like better
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So does this mean you now like them better than the re-700? That you've gone over to the dark side?

I actually do like them, especially at the close out prices, but I have others I like better

I still love my re700s.

 

re700>>martin logans in terms of favoritism.

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I have the Yamaha's, haven't played them and the ML's against each other in a while, but I did when I did my on ear comparisons a while back, to my ears, the Yamahas have more bass in quantity (the ML quality of bass isn't up for debate, from what I've seen, just how much there is, and whether it is enough for people who like bottom, so that the dancers just won't hide


Anyway, I've always suspected fit has something to do with how some people hear these so differently than others, particularly in the bass...reminds me of iems and fit and bass issues.
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I actually do like them, especially at the close out prices, but I have others I like better

 

I'm lazy doc... which ones do you like better. SHR1540 no doubt. Others?

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so is anyone going to grab the IEM Martin Logans, The Mikros 70? ooops sorr didn't mean to mention those. That was mean of me.:evil: 

if you trust their work on the fullsized why not the small sized also.


Edited by nick n - 2/6/14 at 6:29pm
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OK-had my meltdown 2 days ago (which probably means going back 500 pages)...Headphonus Overwhelmus is the technical term, where the brain is bombaded by so many different headphones in a short while, causing a loss in the ability to differentiate between them ("Man, they all sound the same to me"). Thankfully, had a full recovery (some help from William Shatner, who demonstrated that even the worst singer in the world, given the right musicians, song, production, could manage 1 good record, Inspriational, always gives me new hope!!!wink_face.gif
Anyway, started to post this in the morning, but the office was too busy to get it done, so I'll do it now. Been comparing the Westone 4 and 40's, got the 40s for a review for The Absolute Sound. When I finally got around to some head to head listening, figured I'd throw in the Heaven Vs, as they are the darling, performing-above-their-price-level iems of the day. So, I'll try to brief, concise (even though that goes against the grain).
1)to my ears, the Westone 4 and 40 DO NOT sound identical. There is a family resemblance, but the 40's have a wider soundstage (my 1st impression, born out after burning and listening carefully). They have more extended, natural highs without any sibilance/harshness, silky. The mids are slightly richer IMO. Imaging good on both, the 4's tend to put you in a 10th row seat, the 40's in a 2nd row seat (I don't love this aspect of the imaging of the 40's). The 4's are slightly darker, space between instruments more open, on 40's. Lows are very close on the two. I think the 40's still slightly better.
And the Heavens? I guess it wasn't a fair comparison, seeing as the W40 costs about 3 times as much, You know what? The W40's are MUCH better than the Heaven V's, better highs (FAD sl tizzy), FAD does really nicely in the mids, but the 4 and 40's sound just a bit more real. Bass has bounce and drive, 4 and 40s' better. Soundstage is somewhere between the 4's and 40's, but lack the clear, openness between instruments of the 40's. Not that the FAD is bad, mind you, I really enjoy listening to them, do really capture music in an organic way. But you know what? So do the Westone 40's, and they do it in a more convincing way. I haven't heard really high end oems like the ASG-2 or similar, but I get the sense tha the W40's offer a taste of what they do, if not more.
So would I recommend ditching the W4 for the W40? Well, we get into diminishing returns here-the W4 is actually really nice sounding, and the loss on a sale of them then a purchase of the W40 probably comes to a few hundred bucks, so not sure if anyone (like me, who has the W4) will find it worthwhile for the slight but real increase of performance given the exta bucks. I do find it amazing that, using the same drivers, but some slight shifts in dimensions and maybe other internal improvements, did manage to kick performance up a notch, to a level higher.
And the Heavens? Fairer to listen to them against the KEF, Om, AT, etc, more on their level, and I'm sure they'll shine (I'll try to get to this soon, have the CKN-70 coming, have many of the other iems around the mid level price)
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so is anyone going to grab the IEM Martin Logans, The Mikros 70? ooops sorr didn't mean to mention those. That was mean of me.:evil: 

if you trust their work on the fullsized why not the small sized also.


^ ehhh Danny already tried those out but they didn't seem to be that impressive so...... 

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/616833/martin-logan-mikros-70/15#post_8650306

also some other impressions in the thread  those are favourable, but I think like you saySF  there are other impressions.

 

something comparing to the Etys in a few posts.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/635224/martin-logan-mikros-70-review 

 

ok have chummed the waters, see if it attracts and predators or bites.

 

found a description of highs or lack thereof?


Edited by nick n - 2/6/14 at 6:52pm
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I actually do like them, especially at the close out prices, but I have others I like better

I'm lazy doc... which ones do you like better. SHR1540 no doubt. Others?

I like the Sennheiser Amperiors better overall for pleasure listening. I started saying in the earlier post, I think fit has much to do with it. I saw SF post that he puts pads on top of the pads, maybe I'll try that, may make the difference.
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One caveat on the FAD/Westone comparisons-probably haven't burned the FAD enough, definitely not as much as the others, I'll plug them in, comment later if anything changes
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One caveat on the FAD/Westone comparisons-probably haven't burned the FAD enough, definitely not as much as the others, I'll plug them in, comment later if anything changes

It was a fair assessment. It kind of reflects my impressions in a roundabout way lol. I noted that the Heaven V would image instruments behind each other if they were placed so and allow them to play off of each other rather than try to separate them out and that it wasn't the be all end all in detail retrieval.

I actually had some time with a W4 and thought it had excellent resolution and instrument separation. And that it was extremely cohesive for a 4 driver IEM. The one thing it didn't sound to me was realistic. There were some very weird timbre and soundstage characteristics to my ears. Maybe they did real good with the W40 which I haven't heard.
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I agree on the W4 oddities as well, W40 has more realistic sound to the instuments, to the instruments relationships to each other, like them.
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I agree on the W4 oddities as well, W40 has more realistic sound to the instuments, to the instruments relationships to each other, like them.

Then that's a huge upgrade to the W4 IMO.
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The W40 is actually different to the W4? Dafuq?
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