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^ You forgot your favorite words like naturally organic chill.  Cuz it ain't chill worthy if it ain't organic meng. 😎

 

Oh speaking of organic, you peps needs to get on this ASAP. D'YAM America is indeed the belly of the beast, the best and worst all "wrapped & rolled" into one sigh. They really think we are the worlds dumpster for all things crap and toxic huh???

 

http://foodbabe.com/subway/

 

Please sign this thing cuz they are literally putting plastic preservatives into the bread to make them last longer while it is banned in other countries just like GMOs. :angry_face: 


 


Thats OK. They cannot put a Taco Bell in my city becuase they fail the minimum meat standard.

^ WOW DAT WAS FAST!!! YA'LL ARE AWESOME!!! POWER TO DA' PEOPLE/ # VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLA'S MENG. :D

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/subway-removing-chemical-bread-22382170

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/diet-fitness/food-blogger-urges-subway-remove-chemical-bread-n23236

 

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There were some impressions over at the pirate den from Anax:

"Fostex iem is superbly neutral, clear, not warm, not analytical, just right. Probably the best reference sounding headphone or iem ever made for around $100 imo. Stunning."

and some from audio360 (I believe) where Warren Chi and another person disclosed some conflicting impressions. I don't think this is gonna be an "organic" sound, so much as it is a flat and uncolored sound, allowing you to hear a record as the engineer intended

ehhh i am not sure if i can trust noobs that hyped these cans up tbh.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670454/pioneer-se-a1000-appreciation-club-sennheiser-hd-650-for-45

 

ehhh X2 but isn't flat/ uncolored sound in which allows you to hear EXACTLY as the engineers intended the very meaning of "ORGANIC" true to it's source??? LMAO Isn't that call reference sound??? :rolleyes:

 

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Noooooo. Need my organic sound:'(...jk still goons see how they stack up and sound but just by their look I can see an organic sounding iem😎

 

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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

What are the news about the te05 sound quality....i like neutrality but it has to be that Organically neutral sound😎

 

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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

You guys HAVE to buy the martin logans. They're pretty awesome in sound, and they produce the instruments and micro detailing faithfully for a former $300 headphone. Besides, it's going to be discontinued soon enough, so it can't hurt to try it.

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Dat "Reference" sound boi!!!

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

^ WOW DAT WAS FAST!!! YA'LL ARE AWESOME!!! POWER TO DA' PEOPLE/ # VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLA'S MENG. :D

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/subway-removing-chemical-bread-22382170

 

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/diet-fitness/food-blogger-urges-subway-remove-chemical-bread-n23236

 

ehhh i am not sure if i can trust noobs that hyped these cans up tbh.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/670454/pioneer-se-a1000-appreciation-club-sennheiser-hd-650-for-45

 

ehhh X2 but isn't flat/ uncolored sound in which allows you to hear EXACTLY as the engineers intended the very meaning of "ORGANIC" true to it's source??? LMAO Isn't that call reference sound??? :rolleyes:

 

 

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Dat "Reference" sound boi!!!

Organic is debatable. Being neutral doesn't necessarily mean organic. Flat unreferenced sound was given to the gr07 many times, and people have called it dull, organic, flat, reference. However, that doesn't mean it is natural sounding. That's why I usually stay away from iems and headphones like that.

 

The ck10s were one of those referenced iems, but most people here didn't buy it, so I ventured for them myself. They were close to reference sounding if it wasn't for the liquid midrange, but it was a great earphone.

 

These martins are $100, so it is only natural to buy them instantly, and they are worth it!

 

Problem is though, at least only for me, it won't be enough to satisfy my craving for other headphones. That's where the re700s come in. I say they are both great buddies when it comes to SQ. One is natural, the other is smoother and more airy. Peopl ehave to buy the martins though, it can sound organic in a sense that many people can forget about the "dull, boring" nature of headphonoes like this.


Edited by vlenbo - 2/6/14 at 11:43am
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I haven't ever heard those Pioneers that Warren hyped and aside from that, I don't really agree with Anax's take on the ES5 myself. I've found shigzeo to have pretty similar tastes to myself on earphones though, so it's gotten me sufficiently interested.

As for the organic/flat thing, you're just arguing semantics. I take organic to mean close to what's heard in the natural world. That sometimes does imply some level of coloration to achieve such a sound. I think audiophile lingo is pretty flawed at best, as so much of it is employed to approximate and translate something that's quite personal
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

I haven't ever heard those Pioneers that Warren hyped and aside from that, I don't really agree with Anax's take on the ES5 myself. I've found shigzeo to have pretty similar tastes to myself on earphones though, so it's gotten me sufficiently interested.

As for the organic/flat thing, you're just arguing semantics. I take organic to mean close to what's heard in the natural world. That sometimes does imply some level of coloration to achieve such a sound. I think audiophile lingo is pretty flawed at best, as so much of it is employed to approximate and translate something that's quite personal

That's why it's debatable.

 

I'd rather people just say, the martin logans are pretty awesome, they reproduce instruments faithfully, and leave it at that.

 

Going to this organic, natural, or whatever sound will depend on the person.

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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

Organic is debatable. Being neutral doesn't necessarily mean organic. Flat unreferenced sound was given to the gr07 many times, and people have called it dull, organic, flat, reference. However, that doesn't mean it is natural sounding. That's why I usually stay away from iems and headphones like that.

 

The ck10s were one of those referenced iems, but most people here didn't buy it, so I ventured for them myself. They were close to reference sounding if it wasn't for the liquid midrange, but it was a great earphone.

 

These martins are $100, so it is only natural to buy them instantly, and they are worth it!

 

Problem is though, at least only for me, it won't be enough to satisfy my craving for other headphones. That's where the re700s come in. I say they are both great buddies when it comes to SQ. One is natural, the other is smoother and more airy. Peopl ehave to buy the martins though, it can sound organic in a sense that many people can forget about the "dull, boring" nature of headphonoes like this.

^ I am as much of a basshead as anyone here, and these Logans despite not having BOMBASTIC bass quantities is NEVER boring nor dull sounding. It might not have the quantity that can satisfy a true basshead, but their quality is pretty damn good along with adequate quantity even for my hip hop needs. Will post full initial impressions later today.................... :ph34r:

 

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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

I haven't ever heard those Pioneers that Warren hyped and aside from that, I don't really agree with Anax's take on the ES5 myself. I've found shigzeo to have pretty similar tastes to myself on earphones though, so it's gotten me sufficiently interested.

As for the organic/flat thing, you're just arguing semantics. I take organic to mean close to what's heard in the natural world. That sometimes does imply some level of coloration to achieve such a sound. I think audiophile lingo is pretty flawed at best, as so much of it is employed to approximate and translate something that's quite personal

Good points and i would have to agree.  It's all debatable and nothin' is set in stone esp. in regards of how you describe sound cuz we all hear differently. But for me "organic" means sounding natural and REALISTIC just as how instruments/ voices would sound in live concerts etc. So that's my personal definition/ interpretation but others will differ.......

 

 

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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

That's why it's debatable.

 

I'd rather people just say, the martin logans are pretty awesome, they reproduce instruments faithfully, and leave it at that.

 

Going to this organic, natural, or whatever sound will depend on the person.

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And that is why you should explain those terms a bit when you do use them, a simple elaboration would suffice in write-ups/ impressions etc.


Edited by sfwalcer - 2/6/14 at 12:18pm
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You guys are killing me with the 90's talk.

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

You guys are killing me with the 90's talk.


^ Just you wait for my full initial impressions. hoho :veryevil:

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

^ I am as much of a basshead as anyone here, and these Logans despite not having BOMBASTIC bass quantities is NEVER boring nor dull sounding. It might not have the quantity that can satisfy a true basshead, but their quality is pretty damn good along with adequate quantity even for my hip hop needs. Will post full initial impressions later today.................... :ph34r:

 

Good points and i would have to agree.  It's all debatable and nothin' is set in stone esp. in regards of how you describe sound cuz we all hear differently. But for me "organic" means sounding natural and REALISTIC just as how instruments/ voices would sound in live concerts etc. So that's my personal definition/ interpretation but others will differ.......

 

 

^ + 1

 

And that is why you should explain those terms a bit when you do use them, a simple elaboration would suffice in write-ups/ impressions etc.

You think that's good, the re700's are on another level. *wink wink*

 

And to me, the re700s do vocals more naturally than the martins. But the instrument recordings are better on the martins, as the instruments sound exactly like they should when they are being played live. 

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Vlenbo, sf, can you quickly give me an earphone or headphone you think I might have heard that will give me an idea about how much quantity bass the Mikros 90s have? I can do neutral (flat), but I need some bass. The AX35 is neutral, but has enough bass.

 

 

Oh yea, sorry if this is a repeat, but I will have the HP50 tomorrow (wasn't sure if that posted on this thread or not). Thanks guys.

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

Vlenbo, sf, can you quickly give me an earphone or headphone you think I might have heard that will give me an idea about how much quantity bass the Mikros 90s have? I can do neutral (flat), but I need some bass. The AX35 is neutral, but has enough bass.

 

 

Oh yea, sorry if this is a repeat, but I will have the HP50 tomorrow (wasn't sure if that posted on this thread or not). Thanks guys.

Remember how you were disgusted with the doppio's bass quantity at first, but then got to burn them in and enjoyed the quantity they put forth?

 

To me, the mikros were like that at first, but the bass quantity delivered in the end of my few hours of burning them in. 

 

To me, the bass quantity is comparable to the yamahas that you had before eric. The yamaha-hp200. 

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Did anyone try those Logan IEMs? 

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Originally Posted by quartertone View Post
 

Did anyone try those Logan IEMs? 

 

 

DannyBai didn't like the iems. 

 

Thanks vlenbo. Well do you feel the 90 is better than the Yamaha? I liked the Yamaha, but was kind of underwhelmed.

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DannyBai didn't like the iems. 

 

Thanks vlenbo. Well do you feel the 90 is better than the Yamaha? I liked the Yamaha, but was kind of underwhelmed.

It's 2x realistic in instrument rendition, it has vocals that are airier than the yamahas, the isolation is about the same, and the soundstage, while not wide to impress, makes it up with 3d imaging that I haven't heard in most of my headphone collection. Well, except that the re700s do compete against them in that space that these provide, the instrument seperation is fantastic, and isn't hard for headphone users to discern the placement of a piano and a saxophone that are pretty close to one another. I truly advocate the martins, especially at their given price. They are going to be discontinued, and then people will regret not buying them.

 

I truly believe you won't be disappointed with these, especially since they deliver detail like no other headphone. The bass is enough to satisfy an audiophile, and the cans are more than balanced for you to hear everything equally. The treble, vocals, instruments, and bass are equal in quantity to help you enjoy the whole spectrum.

 

Also, I don't have the yamahas, but dsnuts had his opinion of the yamahas being = to the es700s in SQ. So I'm going on based on that belief.

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

Vlenbo, sf, can you quickly give me an earphone or headphone you think I might have heard that will give me an idea about how much quantity bass the Mikros 90s have? I can do neutral (flat), but I need some bass. The AX35 is neutral, but has enough bass.

 

 

Oh yea, sorry if this is a repeat, but I will have the HP50 tomorrow (wasn't sure if that posted on this thread or not). Thanks guys.


Never hear the gr07 MKII but the bass is what i assume they would sound like in both quality/ quantity in the Logan. Less then the gr07 BEs but not by THAT much. There is pretty decent extension of sub bass as well, but it ain't gonna be to ATH CKS1000 levels. Hmmm now that i think of it the sub bass extension is kinda similar to the JVC S500s, but the S500s has more quantity hmmmm i would say it is both better in quality and quantity than the JVC S400s.

 

So there ya' go the bass is right in between of the JVC S500s and the S400s. Leaning slightly more towards that of the S500s. But the Logans extension/ lushness of their mids/treble eats both of them up like a fat kid during Halloween its THAT sweet. : P

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Never hear the gr07 MKII but the bass is what i assume they would sound like in both quality/ quantity in the Logan. Less then the gr07 BEs but not by THAT much. There is pretty decent extension of sub bass as well, but it ain't gonna be to ATH CKS1000 levels. Hmmm now that i think of it the sub bass extension is kinda similar to the JVC S500s, but the S500s has more quantity hmmmm i would say it is both better in quality and quantity than the JVC S400s.

 

So there ya' go the bass is right in between of the JVC S500s and the S400s. Leaning slightly more towards that of the S500s. But the Logans + RE700's extension/ lushness of their mids/treble eats both of them up like a fat kid during Halloween its THAT sweet. : P

fixed it for you. :)

 

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I agree with sfw's comments as well. The subbass, imo, is similar to the es700's, but it extends better like the re700s. 

And the gr07s' bass sig comparison is one I agree with as well, based on people's impressions of those iems.


Edited by vlenbo - 2/6/14 at 1:21pm
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