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OK, some more quick impressions (first, my impression of President Obama...never mind)...
Heaven V, listened a bit more (falling asleep with them), lows good for single BA, which I believe these are, won't floor bassheads, but adequate amount, good definition. Highs similar, don't jump out at you, but there when you listen to them. Soundstage pretty wide, haven't gone head to head with others. What I think has people gaga over these, is not any particular performance area, but rather the whole gestalt. There is a cohesiveness, wholeness, they possess which I think is special. Pace/Rhythm are really captured, draw you in to the music (this could be a benefit of 1 driver-Doctorjazz theory alert-that keeps the different spectra united. In speakers, if I remember correctly, while there is benefit to using separate drivers in different frequency range, there is a price in phase coherence. Different drivers can behave differently, and different frequencies behave differently, and the crossover itself has some effects. Much high end design is dealing with these driver anomalies). Anyway, these are enjoyable, involving.
standard disclaimer-still early on, got a lot of listening to do, and, as previously (and somewhat hysterically) noted, got lots of headphones/cds on the plate right now (makes a nice meal, though)
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

OK, some more quick impressions (first, my impression of President Obama...never mind)...
Heaven V, listened a bit more (falling asleep with them), lows good for single BA, which I believe these are, won't floor bassheads, but adequate amount, good definition. Highs similar, don't jump out at you, but there when you listen to them. Soundstage pretty wide, haven't gone head to head with others. What I think has people gaga over these, is not any particular performance area, but rather the whole gestalt. There is a cohesiveness, wholeness, they possess which I think is special. Pace/Rhythm are really captured, draw you in to the music (this could be a benefit of 1 driver-Doctorjazz theory alert-that keeps the different spectra united. In speakers, if I remember correctly, while there is benefit to using separate drivers in different frequency range, there is a price in phase coherence. Different drivers can behave differently, and different frequencies behave differently, and the crossover itself has some effects. Much high end design is dealing with these driver anomalies). Anyway, these are enjoyable, involving.
standard disclaimer-still early on, got a lot of listening to do, and, as previously (and somewhat hysterically) noted, got lots of headphones/cds on the plate right now (makes a nice meal, though)

 

Good stuff doc! What you typed makes me think of the M200's (which is why I love them so much). And this seems to jive with Danny's comparison of the two...

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

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My Heaven V is starting show the Aging already because I've been using them so much.  

 

M200, VAging quick comparisons.  Surprisingly the Aging sounds almost as big but the instruments and vocals sound closer.  Bass is faster, doesn't reach as deep as the M200 but has better impact due to it being faster, punchier and precise.  M200 sounds a bit airier but not as focused.  Instrument separation is very good on both.  Love the high-hats on the M200's with the song I'm listening to.  The M200's sounds slightly thicker and bass does protrude in the mix but not so with the VAging.  Both are absolutely lovely but for those who find the M200's to be a little bass heavy, the VAging cures that without being bass light.  It's definitely not bass light.  VAging has crispier treble, more energy.  I was comparing it to the Sony H3 the other day and I absolutely loved them both but the H3 was sounding romantic and the VAging sounding more lively with more energy.  I am finding the same sort of conclusion with the M200.  For guys like ericp, Wayne and Dsnuts who basically own all the phones that I own, these will be a change in sound that is very welcoming.  These even don't remotely sound like the Doppio's.  An excellent mix of dynamic and armature.  These are a hybrid sound without being hybrid.  

 

 

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Ordered the Piston directly from Xiaomi. I will compare it to the Ibuygou one once received.

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Thank you, I appreciate your impression!

 

 

Have the AX30 in my ears right now. Wow!! Nice straight out of the box... Very nice clarity and great snergy with with dynamic and BA. Mids are a  bit forward, but with good extension and decay on both ends. This is not the neutral one but full sounding (a couple of notches north of neutral). The bass is better than the DN-900. Right now I would say this sound is somewhere between the DN-900 and DN-1000 (leaning toward the 1K). I don't know if I would say it's better than the DN-1000 yet, but it's close. Very nice! 

Okay, about to pop the AX35 in my ears now. Nice job, and the physical earphone is much better put together than the AX60. The AX30 is suppose to be the earphone with more of a bass umph. I expect it to fill out even more with burn in. Okay, now let's see what the Ax35 gives.


Edited by ericp10 - 2/5/14 at 11:09am
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Have the AX30 in my ears right now. Wow!! Nice straight out of the box... Pretty much what bhazard stated is true. Very nice clarity and great snergy with with dynamic and BA. Mids are a  bit forward, but with good extension and decay on both ends. This is not the neutral one but full sounding (a couple of notches north of neutral). The bass is better than the DN-900. Right now I would say this sound is somewhere between the DN-900 and DN-1000 (leaning toward the 1K). I don't know if I would say it's better than the DN-1000 yet, but it's close. Very nice! 

Okay, about to pop the AX35 in my ears now. Nice job, and the physical earphone is much better put together than the AX60. The AX30 is suppose to be the earphone with more of a bass umph. I expect it to fill out even more with burn in. Okay, now let's see what the Ax35 gives.


Nice. Where can I get it? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post


Have the AX30 in my ears right now. Wow!! Nice straight out of the box... Pretty much what bhazard stated is true. Very nice clarity and great snergy with with dynamic and BA. Mids are a  bit forward, but with good extension and decay on both ends. Neutral but full sounding (maybe a bit north of neutral). The bass may be better than the DN-900. Right now I would say this sound is somewhere between the DN-900 and DN-1000. I don't know if I would say it's better than the DN-1000 yet, but it's close. Very nice! 


Okay, about to pop the AX30 in my ears now. Nice job, and the physical earphone is much better put together than the AX60.

Nice, this is exactly what I was hoping for.

Edit: I need to learn how to read wink.gif
Edited by peter123 - 2/5/14 at 11:26am
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just pulled the trigger on the ax35. 

 

Where did you buy it?

 

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Right now I would say this sound is somewhere between the DN-900 and DN-1000 (leaning toward the 1K). I don't know if I would say it's better than the DN-1000 yet, but it's close. Very nice! 

 

Would be kind of surprising if the AX30 for $60 were better than the Dunu for $200, which is also praised as punching above its price.

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Nice, this is exactly what I was hoping for.

What exactly is the difference between the ax30 and the ax35?

I read somewhere that the ax30 has more bass and somewhere else that it's the other way around......

 

The AX30 has more bass umph, but the AX35 has more bass extension. In a nutshell, from what I'm hearing right now, the AX35 is the neutral one and more refined, the the AX30 sounds quite good too. I think the AX30 has more shimmery highs. Mids are more liquid in the AX35. Both are pretty darn good and compete very easily with the DN-900 and DN-1000. Need to A/B when I get home (and more burn in). But yeah, fuller sound in the AX30.

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I like the cable better on the AX30. The AX35 cable is too rubbery and more like the AX60's cable.

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What Astrotec did manage to do very well, however, is blend the dynamic and BA drivers. Some hybrids I've heard are like: here are the BAs and now the dynamic for bass. There is more cohesiveness in the sound between the two different style of drivers in these Astrotecs.

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That's something the DN-100 really pulls off, getting the driver co-operation right.

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This.........
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! The B3 Pro is one of the best purchases I've made, and my #1 set. IEMagent also was lucky enough to get the actual Pro, and he ended up selling his Dunu-1k and OM IEP off for them. Tell BBO to yell at Havi to put it in production again.
........and this.......
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Would be kind of surprising if the AX30 for $60 were better than the Dunu for $200, which is also praised as punching above its price.

..........magic does happen sometimes wink.gif
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The AX30 has more bass umph, but the AX35 has more bass extension. In a nutshell, from what I'm hearing right now, the AX35 is the neutral one and more refined, the the AX30 sounds quite good too. I think the AX30 has more shimmery highs. Mids are more liquid in the AX35. Both are pretty darn good and compete very easily with the DN-900 and DN-1000. Need to A/B when I get home (and more burn in). But yeah, fuller sound in the AX30.

Thank you, I'm having a really hard time to find a reason not to get the ax35 now wink.gif
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This.........
........and this.......
..........magic does happen sometimes wink.gif

Yeah, I'm not saying that the AX30 and AX35 are better than the Dunus now. At this point all I am is saying is that they don't lag eons behind those two in sound quality. Again, I need to A/B. But I can say these certainly above their retail prices, and I do think Astrotec had meant to go up against Dunu in sound quality and value with these two iems.

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Yeah, I'm not saying that the AX30 and AX35 are better than the Dunus now. At this point all I am is saying is that they don't lag eons behind those two in sound quality. Again, I need to A/B. But I can say these certainly above their retail prices, and I do think Astrotec had meant to go up against Dunu in sound quality and value with these two iems.

Yeah, yeah it was enough to convince me but I'm weaker than most.

Just ordered a pair from the garbagebin wink.gif
Edited by peter123 - 2/5/14 at 11:54am
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