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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post

Problem is, massa' Wayne brought something to my attention: http://www.head-fi.org/t/696804/nuforce-primo-8-an-audiophile-phase-coherent-quad-balanced-armature-driver-iem-impressions

So now I'm thinking about waiting for more impressions on the Primo 8 before I pull the trigger.

 

You can blame massa' dsnuts for that!

 

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

As a wise man once said - it comes a time when one has to stop getting on every hype train even if it's full of happy passengers and save some money for the plane, which while costlier, can get one faster to that destination that all are trying to reach.

 

I other words, yeah, there are a lot of great sub-$100 iems and the Pistons are probably one of them. Yeah, there are a lot of very expensive iems that while great for some people can be awful to others and diminishing returns can hit hard. But once you get that higher-end iem that sounds like what you were looking for, it shows you that those cheapos have a long road ahead of them to get to that level even though they are advancing fast.

 

We will see if your wisdom rules if the Piston hype is sustained AND they get down to $10 lol!

post #19412 of 32862
😲Why sell the x3😞
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post #19414 of 32862
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post
 

 

We will see if your wisdom rules if the Piston hype is sustained AND they get down to $10 lol!

Nah, I might wait for it to become available locally and get a pair for my brother (after I burn it in and give it a listen), who was crying for volume controls even though I gave him my meelec a161p and I doubt the Pistons will be that good.


Edited by kova4a - 1/17/14 at 7:58pm
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Okay fellas, the UE900 tips did give me more bass, and to a lesser extent the Phonak. Yet, my theory was right that I would probably like these Doppios better with some tip changes. Actuall the Doppios stock tips sound better on the Pistons. So right now I have the single-flange silicon tip on the Doppios form the M750. These seem to be a perfect match next to the UE900. Right now my UE900 tips are for my H3 and IM70. TF90 tips are being used for ther Pistons. So yes, already the sound is growing on me.

post #19416 of 32862
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Nah, I might wait for it to become available locally and get a pair for my brother (after I burn it in and give it a listen), who was crying for volume controls even though I gave him my meelec a161p and I doubt the Pistons will be that good.

 

Yeah you're right. Dumb idea.

 

So anyone, are these them???

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/XIAOMI-piston-model-In-ear-Earphone-3-5mm-Stereo-Headsets-with-Mic-Control-Talk-/161201048496?pt=Bluetooth_Wireless_Products&hash=item258854cbb0

post #19417 of 32862
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Nah, I might wait for it to become available locally and get a pair for my brother (after I burn it in and give it a listen), who was crying for volume controls even though I gave him my meelec a161p and I doubt the Pistons will be that good.

Sorry but the Piston are better than the 151 and 161. Just as good in the highs, just as engaging in the mids, and uuuuh ooooh waaaahhhh ooooh...the Piston actually has BASS!! So let's not say you THINK something is better than the Piston until you actually try it. And yes..i've owned all three, and the 151 for almost a year, and it was once my favorite IEM. 

post #19418 of 32862
@dsnuts....the heck is this...I don't even.

Edited by vlenbo - 1/17/14 at 8:37pm
post #19419 of 32862
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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post
 

Sorry but the Piston are better than the 151 and 161. Just as good in the highs, just as engaging in the mids, and uuuuh ooooh waaaahhhh ooooh...the Piston actually has BASS!! So let's not say you THINK something is better than the Piston until you actually try it. And yes..i've owned all three, and the 151 for almost a year, and it was once my favorite IEM. 

Well, now that's when personal preference comes to play. First of all the bass of a161p was pretty good - tight, with good impact and speed and more quantity than most single BAs have aside from the likes of X10, so if you think that it has no bass then the Pistons are really bassy. And what does that "just as good in the highs" mean?


Edited by kova4a - 1/17/14 at 8:15pm
post #19420 of 32862
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

So I have the Doppios in my ears. I've been A/Bing it against the BA200 for about 30 minutes now. Hmmmm? So, let me say right off the back I am not too impressed. What!!?? Did he say not too impressed? Yes, coming from the H-3, DN-1000, On1, M200 (etc.) and BA200, the Doppios aren't WOWing me. Let me include the Pistons in that list too.

 

So am I'm saying Dsnuts got it wrong and these don't sound good? Nope, not saying that at all either. Actually the Doppios sound quite good. It has very good instrument separation, clarity out of this world, and may be one of fastest dual-BAs I have heard. What is it then?  I think it's just not my sound signature preference. I have several favorite sound signatures, but this isn't one of them as of yet. I mean is it like "I regret I bought it"? No, I don't regret it, but I think I haven't gotten everything that the Doppio is capable of offering (or at least I hope I haven't). I don't think Dsnuts has heard many dual or multi BAs earphones (this may be his first). If I'm correct, I can surely understand why he's impressed by the Doppio. But having owned the SM2, the Klipsch Custom 2, W4, SM3, and still the SE530 (I know some of these are more than two), and BA200, I have some different expectations and know what a dual BA can do. For example, the dual SM2 put out some good bass! So this is just a sound signature thing with me right now. Again, it's not a bad sounding earphone at all, but...

 

Okay, first this is a mids and highs focused earphone. No, highs aren't harsh., and yes, bass is there. You know what,  I guess I should say this is really a neutral tuned earphone. So is you really like a neutral sound, these will be for you. Audiophiles who love a neutral sound will find these be a joy. Comparing these to the BA200, there is quite a bit more sub-bass in the TDK than in the Doppios. The BA200 still stands alone as the most dynamic BA earphone I've ever heard. It has a very warm engaging dynamic sound. I think mentally I was prepared in my mind to hear something like the BA200, but these two couldn't be more polar opposites. That doesn't mean that that Doppios are cold and analytical. It's somewhere in the middle of cool and very warm. 

 

The Doppios are quicker than the BA200 and has great attack with electric and acoustic guitars. And again, the Doppios aren't bass-light, the tuning is just neutral. So this will be a earphone for those who love that strictly neutral sound. I was thinking that the Doppios has more micro details than the BA200, but that may not be necessarily true. I think the BA200 warmth disguises some of the details it has unless you really listen. At first I'm thinking that vocals are better in the Doppios, but then vocals sound better in the BA200. When I switch again I go back and forth in my opinion. So I would have to say it's about a tie in vocals. Vocals are just presented differently in the earphones (more forward in the Doppios and bit laid back in the BA200). It's about a tie because both have outstanding vocals. 

 

The BA200 has bit more natural spacing between instruments to my ears, yet I still the feel the Doppio is holding back on me and has more to offer. The Doppio nozzle is not as narrow as the BA200's (narrow like a Shure or Westone nozzle), but it isn't as wide as say TF10 or Dunu DN-900 nozzle. It's somewhere in between. I've always found that with all-BA earphones, the deeper the insertion the better in pulling out all of the sound. Usually I would wear a large tip, but with the Doppios I needed the a medium tip to get a decent deep insertion. That has brought the sound out some for me. I need to tip roll when I get home. I just have a feeling that changing the tips (let's say to something like the Phonak tips) will help the Doppio perform better for me. These aren't bad tips, but I don't think the stock tips are the best for the Doppio. 

 

What else? The dual BA earphones have a nice full sound, but isn't as 3-D as the hybrids or newer all dynamic earphones I've heard. So while I say I'm not impressed yet, I don't hate the Doppio, and I still think there is something in the sound that I can pull out of it to suit my taste in sound signatures. What did I learn? I forgot how freaking awesome the BA200 sounds! Yes, I have the BA200 up for sale because I don't listen too it much with the other phones that have edged it out as some of my favorites, but that doesn't mean it's not a great sounding dual BA earphone. It is. Okay, more thoughts after I get home and tip roll some.

Great comparison and impressions eric. I enjoy this signature and I know for sure dsnuts already loves it, but the h-3s, they are way better than I initially expected, now I use my h-3s more than the im02s. I still agree with ds on how complimentary the doppios and h-3s are. 

 

I'm disappointed that the ba-200s were already sold, I would have bought them and sold my im02 based on your comparison. Oh well, I hope that headfier never breaks them.

 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

^ Great stuff ericp, keep em' impressions coming. :popcorn: 

 

edit: Relevant cuz of all the Yammies talk of late, love this doods vids. :)

 

Hi A_Recording! That's the guy, right? I remembered he reviewed sony xbas, and the es700s in that thread DA NUT MAN made, :D.

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

Okay fellas, the UE900 tips did give me more bass, and to a lesser extent the Phonak. Yet, my theory was right that I would probably like these Doppios better with some tip changes. Actuall the Doppios stock tips sound better on the Pistons. So right now I have the single-flange silicon tip on the Doppios form the M750. These seem to be a perfect match next to the UE900. Right now my UE900 tips are for my H3 and IM70. TF90 tips are being used for ther Pistons. So yes, already the sound is growing on me.

I don't know if the doppios have the same effect as the im02s with tip change, but did the bass also tighten up a bit? I don't know why, but my im02s bass tightened up, increased bass levels, and became sharper than before. The mids, however, were smoother and a bit more open, and the highs got brighter than stock tips, leading to some silibance.

 

Edit: This was all done with ue900 large tips.


Edited by vlenbo - 1/17/14 at 8:28pm
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

Okay fellas, the UE900 tips did give me more bass, and to a lesser extent the Phonak. Yet, my theory was right that I would probably like these Doppios better with some tip changes. Actuall the Doppios stock tips sound better on the Pistons. So right now I have the single-flange silicon tip on the Doppios form the M750. These seem to be a perfect match next to the UE900. Right now my UE900 tips are for my H3 and IM70. TF90 tips are being used for ther Pistons. So yes, already the sound is growing on me.

:beerchug:

 

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....the heck is this...I don't even.

 

There is a sick individual or individuals that think it is OK to throw idiotic spam like that post on headfi. Lol. I just helped delete about 10 of them from the same guy.

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 


LoL if you jump on them i might have to piggyback on your downfall as well. hoho

 

We need to STAND STRONG against those hype tidal waves!!!

 

You're my last stance Masa' WAYNE

 

If you fall i fall. :tongue_smile:

 

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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post
 

Don't worry - even if he fails I'm still standing strong and resisting all hype as usual.

 

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Don't worry Sf, I'm staying strong here as well. As a matter of fact, I did order the pistons but cancelled and ordered the B3 instead... As tempting as $20 can be, I got your back mate!

 

Weak sauce fellas, You guys can do better than that! At least pretend that you already purchased the pistons for $15 from that ebay seller. :tongue: Pretend that you already know the SQ and are impressed with it, but will sell it off as you have better iems in your collection. That's what I'm doing to resist the temptation of the pistons, not that they're no good, but I know for sure that my iem collection will be sold if I hear it! :triportsad: At least the cheap Iems that I own.

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There is a sick individual or individuals that think it is OK to throw idiotic spam like that post on headfi. Lol. I just helped delete about 10 of them from the same guy.

Great, now you can also clean that very same spam from your previous comment or at least add it in a spoiler. The same goes for vlenbo's quote of your post. Coz what's the reason for following some guy's posts and reporting them if you add that annoyingly long and ridiculous ad to one of  the most visited thread on head-fi - you just upgraded his advertising spot.

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that was neat

post #19425 of 32862
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Those are the $15 dollar ones that have been unproven to be fakes. The jury is still out, one of us did order it from here, but I don't think I remember anyone verifying this link as completely safe.

 

The ones that people thought were safe were this. 

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/141157769953 

 

The one you posted might be the same one that drblue ordered from though.


Edited by vlenbo - 1/17/14 at 9:29pm
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