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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post


I swapped my purchase of the DN1K for the FiiO X3 because it was a much overdue upgrade for me. 

Hm, I wonder if the Dunu wouldn't have been a bigger upgrade. I don't think differences between players are as big as between phones. But I suppose a player gets used with different phones and can add something to all of them. I'll go for the X1 when it comes out, the X3 exceeds my DAP budget. 

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OK, gave the Shures a quick listen last night, I have some preliminary impressions. This is pre-burn in, sorry listen (bought them used, but don't know how burned in they are). Definitely have a great midrange, terrific clarity on vocals. Bass beautifully rendered if it's there in the recording. Soundstage good, not great, but these are closed phones, generally have lesser soundstage. So, what's the negative so far? 1)highs seem rolled off, cymbals are there, but you have to listen for them. 2)while bass is tight and controlled without losing impact, I do think they do bleed into the mids some... Guitar details I know in some tracks are harder to pick out. Doing the burn in thing now, I know DS will say they need a kazillion hours, Check back later, gotta go to work.
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EPH-100 are great IEM's
Smoothed over treble, good midrange, fantastic deep bass. Standout of the show is imaging and soundstage though - dat holographic soundstage is really unique and beautifully done. Get yo EDM out when you listen to it ;)

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Originally Posted by H20Fidelity View Post

Haha, when I move gear I try to help the community by going low as possible, I take off what I'd consider a 'rental fee' for my time with it then push it on. Those Yamaha are $249 on amazon, so someone's in for a treat. I can understand why sfwalcer's pretty keen. :-P

Btw: There's a hidden gem in this thread linked below called Takstar PRO80. You guys should be checking it out. It's $69 (in Australia) headphone that sounds really really good. The full-size section have caught onto it for a while. Comes with a groovy case, soft pouch. I bought a pair and was pretty blown away.

Check it out there, show Dsnuts and others.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/585356/the-takstar-technical-pro-gemini-greathon-thread

Here they are on our eBay in OZ: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/290961279924?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

And USA has a rebranded version (same headphone) : http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Gemini-Gemini-DJ-HSR-1000-Professional-Monitoring-Headphones-Black-/360827468984?pt=US_Headphones&hash=item5402fe3cb8&_uhb=1&clk_rvr_id=574460184913


Sixty-Six. F'in. Dollars.

With a hard case.

 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

This is probably  the best studio monitor I've ever seen. Looked it up on TaoBao, searched "takstar pro" than the pro 80 came up. WOW.

I want this.

 

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

EPH-100 are great IEM's
Smoothed over treble, good midrange, fantastic deep bass. Standout of the show is imaging and soundstage though - dat holographic soundstage is really unique and beautifully done. Get yo EDM out when you listen to it ;)

Holographic soundstage.

 

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!

The price on these fluctuate like mad, from $60 - $11x. These look pretty nice, too, and has a lot of tips.

I want this.

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Hahaha yeah, there's something about EPH-100's soundstage that I just can't put my finger on. It's unique and it's freaking great

Instrument seperation is fantastic too! Forgot about that - you can distinctly hear each instrument very well

I'm gonna say a well-sealed Westone 3 is amazing and fixes all the problems with the EPH-100 such as lack of detail in the treble, just a beast! Doesn't have the uniqueness of the EPH-100 though
 


Edited by nehcrow - 1/17/14 at 6:27am
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+1 on the Takstar/Gemini/Technical Pro/etc. I've had the Takstar Hi2050, Semi-open variant of Pro80, for about a year now. Still one of my fave cans for around the house. Sounds great driven from just my cellphone, amping is not required. Paid $50 shipped. biggrin.gif
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I'm sure it's a beast of a headphone :)
Should be getting it this week.
Excited as all hell :D

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post
 

EPH-100 are great IEM's
Smoothed over treble, good midrange, fantastic deep bass. Standout of the show is imaging and soundstage though - dat holographic soundstage is really unique and beautifully done. Get yo EDM out when you listen to it ;)


+1. Very unique phone. Good isolation for a dynamic

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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post

+1 on the Takstar/Gemini/Technical Pro/etc. I've had the Takstar Hi2050, Semi-open variant of Pro80, for about a year now. Still one of my fave cans for around the house. Sounds great driven from just my cellphone, amping is not required. Paid $50 shipped. biggrin.gif

Hah, I have the M100's in the house atm, do you think they are comparable headphones?

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post

OK, gave the Shures a quick listen last night, I have some preliminary impressions. This is pre-burn in, sorry listen (bought them used, but don't know how burned in they are). Definitely have a great midrange, terrific clarity on vocals. Bass beautifully rendered if it's there in the recording. Soundstage good, not great, but these are closed phones, generally have lesser soundstage. So, what's the negative so far? 1)highs seem rolled off, cymbals are there, but you have to listen for them. 2)while bass is tight and controlled without losing impact, I do think they do bleed into the mids some... Guitar details I know in some tracks are harder to pick out. Doing the burn in thing now, I know DS will say they need a kazillion hours, Check back later, gotta go to work.

 

With burn in the bass tightens up and becomes more dynamic less boomy opening up the great mid range and highs.. The highs start to shine much more so and overall sound balances out..What is strange is I have read a few guys mention the highs are rolled off, not so much on my pair. I did notice after burn in the highs stand out more so but maybe it is because I got used to it..I actually love the highs on these cans. That deep fluid midrange on the cans are to die for,. This is one sound that will make you think about it when you have them off your head.. No need for a kazillion hours I would say 200 for certain. Vocals on these cans sound stupendous. The mids of these cans are what brings me back to them every time..Shure does mids like no other..

 

Gotta love them Alcantara pads. Wish all headphones came with these pads.

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I have to say, even in my quick early impression, vocals were fabulous! I am a big Aimee Mann fan, she writes lyrics that are vague, mysterious sometimes, and are often really hard to make out on the records. They were clear as can be with the Shures, like she was singing right in front of me, without gussying the sound up, no extra warmth, just clear, beautiful. Another quick impression was incredible comfort... One of the most comfortable cans I've yet used. For them burning with my old iPod Mini, more later (200 hours seems like a kazillion to me, but I'll hang in there)
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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post


Wow, they look sexy as fudge!

If I didint buy some JVC HA-S680 recently I probably would have gone for them.
Wow congrats mate!

I swapped my purchase of the DN1K for the FiiO X3 because it was a much overdue upgrade for me. So I guess I'll be waiting on the DN2K to arrive before I go the DUNU way.
+1 on the EPH.

Super exciting IEM, and always will be.

Shame though that in the UK they can only be bought for £99, which is a bit expensive for a discontinued IEM if you ask me.

I agree, they do. I already bought it, and am waiting for it to arrive at tenso.

 

I wish I bought the eph-100, they sound really good from what I've read when I was a noob at headfi. (still one, but a bit more experienced now).

 

One day maybe. at the moment, however, I will enjoy the h-3s, im02s, m200s, and this new headphone that supposedly acts like the higher end ES models and ckm series of the old.


Edited by vlenbo - 1/17/14 at 11:46am
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So I have the Doppios in my ears. I've been A/Bing it against the BA200 for about 30 minutes now. Hmmmm? So, let me say right off the back I am not too impressed. What!!?? Did he say not too impressed? Yes, coming from the H-3, DN-1000, On1, M200 (etc.) and BA200, the Doppios aren't WOWing me. Let me include the Pistons in that list too.

 

So am I'm saying Dsnuts got it wrong and these don't sound good? Nope, not saying that at all either. Actually the Doppios sound quite good. It has very good instrument separation, clarity out of this world, and may be one of fastest dual-BAs I have heard. What is it then?  I think it's just not my sound signature preference. I have several favorite sound signatures, but this isn't one of them as of yet. I mean is it like "I regret I bought it"? No, I don't regret it, but I think I haven't gotten everything that the Doppio is capable of offering (or at least I hope I haven't). I don't think Dsnuts has heard many dual or multi BAs earphones (this may be his first). If I'm correct, I can surely understand why he's impressed by the Doppio. But having owned the SM2, the Klipsch Custom 2, W4, SM3, and still the SE530 (I know some of these are more than two), and BA200, I have some different expectations and know what a dual BA can do. For example, the dual SM2 put out some good bass! So this is just a sound signature thing with me right now. Again, it's not a bad sounding earphone at all, but...

 

Okay, first this is a mids and highs focused earphone. No, highs aren't harsh., and yes, bass is there. You know what,  I guess I should say this is really a neutral tuned earphone. So is you really like a neutral sound, these will be for you. Audiophiles who love a neutral sound will find these be a joy. Comparing these to the BA200, there is quite a bit more sub-bass in the TDK than in the Doppios. The BA200 still stands alone as the most dynamic BA earphone I've ever heard. It has a very warm engaging dynamic sound. I think mentally I was prepared in my mind to hear something like the BA200, but these two couldn't be more polar opposites. That doesn't mean that that Doppios are cold and analytical. It's somewhere in the middle of cool and very warm. 

 

The Doppios are quicker than the BA200 and has great attack with electric and acoustic guitars. And again, the Doppios aren't bass-light, the tuning is just neutral. So this will be a earphone for those who love that strictly neutral sound. I was thinking that the Doppios has more micro details than the BA200, but that may not be necessarily true. I think the BA200 warmth disguises some of the details it has unless you really listen. At first I'm thinking that vocals are better in the Doppios, but then vocals sound better in the BA200. When I switch again I go back and forth in my opinion. So I would have to say it's about a tie in vocals. Vocals are just presented differently in the earphones (more forward in the Doppios and bit laid back in the BA200). It's about a tie because both have outstanding vocals. 

 

The BA200 has bit more natural spacing between instruments to my ears, yet I still the feel the Doppio is holding back on me and has more to offer. The Doppio nozzle is not as narrow as the BA200's (narrow like a Shure or Westone nozzle), but it isn't as wide as say TF10 or Dunu DN-900 nozzle. It's somewhere in between. I've always found that with all-BA earphones, the deeper the insertion the better in pulling out all of the sound. Usually I would wear a large tip, but with the Doppios I needed the a medium tip to get a decent deep insertion. That has brought the sound out some for me. I need to tip roll when I get home. I just have a feeling that changing the tips (let's say to something like the Phonak tips) will help the Doppio perform better for me. These aren't bad tips, but I don't think the stock tips are the best for the Doppio. 

 

What else? The dual BA earphones have a nice full sound, but isn't as 3-D as the hybrids or newer all dynamic earphones I've heard. So while I say I'm not impressed yet, I don't hate the Doppio, and I still think there is something in the sound that I can pull out of it to suit my taste in sound signatures. What did I learn? I forgot how freaking awesome the BA200 sounds! Yes, I have the BA200 up for sale because I don't listen too it much with the other phones that have edged it out as some of my favorites, but that doesn't mean it's not a great sounding dual BA earphone. It is. Okay, more thoughts after I get home and tip roll some.

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Oh, it does take more power to drive the BA200 than it does to drive the Doppio. I used my iPod 120GB and X3 to test both. I've used the Foo Fighters Rope and All My Life as the main test tracks. Then some George Duke Project.

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post
 

So I have the Doppios in my ears. I've been A/Bing it against the BA200 for about 30 minutes now. Hmmmm? So, let me say right off the back I am not too impressed. What!!?? Did he say not too impressed? Yes, coming from the H-3, DN-1000, On1, M200 (etc.) and BA200, the Doppios aren't WOWing me. Let me include the Pistons in that list too.

 

So am I'm saying Dsnuts got it wrong and these don't sound good? Nope, not saying that at all either. Actually the Doppios sound quite good. It has very good instrument separation, clarity out of this world, and may be one of fastest dual-BAs I have heard. What is it then?  I think it's just not my sound signature preference. I have several favorite sound signatures, but this isn't one of them as of yet. I mean is it like "I regret I bought it"? No, I don't regret it, but I think I haven't gotten everything that the Doppio is capable of offering (or at least I hope I haven't). I don't think Dsnuts has heard many dual or multi BAs earphones (this may be his first). If I'm correct, I can surely understand why he's impressed by the Doppio. But having owned the SM2, the Klipsch Custom 2, W4, SM3, and still the SE530 (I know some of these are more than two), and BA200, I have some different expectations and know what a dual BA can do. For example, the dual SM2 put out some good bass! So this is just a sound signature thing with me right now. Again, it's not a bad sounding earphone at all, but...

 

Okay, first this is a mids and highs focused earphone. No, highs aren't harsh., and yes, bass is there. You know what,  I guess I should say this is really a neutral tuned earphone. So is you really like a neutral sound, these will be for you. Audiophiles who love a neutral sound will find these be a joy. Comparing these to the BA200, there is quite a bit more sub-bass in the TDK than in the Doppios. The BA200 still stands alone as the most dynamic BA earphone I've ever heard. It has a very warm engaging dynamic sound. I think mentally I was prepared in my mind to hear something like the BA200, but these two couldn't be more polar opposites. That doesn't mean that that Doppios are cold and analytical. It's somewhere in the middle of cool and very warm. 

 

The Doppios are quicker than the BA200 and has great attack with electric and acoustic guitars. And again, the Doppios aren't bass-light, the tuning is just neutral. So this will be a earphone for those who love that strictly neutral sound. I was thinking that the Doppios has more micro details than the BA200, but that may not be necessarily true. I think the BA200 warmth disguises some of the details it has unless you really listen. At first I'm thinking that vocals are better in the Doppios, but then vocals sound better in the BA200. When I switch again I go back and forth in my opinion. So I would have to say it's about a tie in vocals. Vocals are just presented differently in the earphones (more forward in the Doppios and bit laid back in the BA200). It's about a tie because both have outstanding vocals. 

 

The BA200 has bit more natural spacing between instruments to my ears, yet I still the feel the Doppio is holding back on me and has more to offer. The Doppio nozzle is not as narrow as the BA200's (narrow like a Shure or Westone nozzle), but it isn't as wide as say TF10 or Dunu DN-900 nozzle. It's somewhere in between. I've always found that with all-BA earphones, the deeper the insertion the better in pulling out all of the sound. Usually I would wear a large tip, but with the Doppios I needed the a medium tip to get a decent deep insertion. That has brought the sound out some for me. I need to tip roll when I get home. I just have a feeling that changing the tips (let's say to something like the Phonak tips) will help the Doppio perform better for me. These aren't bad tips, but I don't think the stock tips are the best for the Doppio. 

 

What else? The dual BA earphones have a nice full sound, but isn't as 3-D as the hybrids or newer all dynamic earphones I've heard. So while I say I'm not impressed yet, I don't hate the Doppio, and I still think there is something in the sound that I can pull out of it to suit my taste in sound signatures. What did I learn? I forgot how freaking awesome the BA200 sounds! Yes, I have the BA200 up for sale because I don't listen too it much with the other phones that have edged it out as some of my favorites, but that doesn't mean it's not a great sounding dual BA earphone. It is. Okay, more thoughts after I get home and tip roll some.

 

What tips are you using on the BA200?

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