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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post


Well they deserve the praise, trust
Technically speaking, they are fantastic no real weaknesses other than depth of soundstage (but thats monitoring IEMs for ya)
They were an eye opener for sure, truly a taste of high end sound that may be addicting lol

^ Oh there are ALWAYS weaknesses, cuz THIS IS HEAD-FI!!! :deadhorse:

 

 

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

 

It's not just the GR07. It's that this new crop of sub $200 iems serve as a serious sanity check for people who own these uber iems. The difference in SQ is not nearly worth the price. It's like the hypercar market where you pay an extra $100k for that extra 0.3s off your 0-60 times.

ikr, that's my personal limit for cans and iems cuz i just can't justify paying THAT much due to my ****ty sources and the music i listen to. : P

 

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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

Just a heads up. 

 

This is a brief comparison of my three favorite iems.

 

The ath-im02 is my second favorite out of the three iems, it has resolving vocals with impactful drums and bass, while having a crispy and tender treble

 

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^ Great stuff meng, but dat part has me craving for some fried CHICKEN boi!!!

 

... yum dat treble sure looks tasty!!!

 

 

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Yeah exactly right eke
Chasing that last 10 - 20 percent of sound is an addicting adventure that will hit your wallet hard
Its just most audiophiles will find flaws in SQs and will spend lots of money trying to rectify those flaws without regards to money spent
Those flaws will be constantly nagging them and irriating them until the point of purchasing a new IEM

Not to mention the taste of something even better is tantalizing, thats just human nature
Trick is to find the right signature that you can enjoy music with without blowing through your paycheck
All in all,
None of you audiophiles should take up hard drugs LOL

Like i said X2, THIS IS HEAD-FI!!!

 

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

LMAO on the 'alcohol consumption' thing. We should ask one of the guys from the Sound Science forum to prove this statement, but proven or not, I approve of this.

 

     Oh lol. I guess I forgot what I wrote there. I'm seeing the GR07 Mk2 at about $215 here. However, I'm seeing a sort of "bass edition" and a "classic edition" for half the price. It's getting confusing. But what you said on its "2D-esque presentation" tipped me off. I think I'll resolve to get the DN-1k instead. But what of my amp now?

 

     I guess like you said, audio is "like a curse and a blessing all at once." Those are really good words of wisdom, Masa' Walsa.

LoL i am not worthy of dat Masa' title i am just lowly Alfred. Masa' WAYNE would have my head if i get all uppity. :tongue:

 

Yeah for some reason the VSonic gr07 is more expensive in China than what international resalers are selling them for. If you do go for the MKII, the newly released "Classic" edition for like $100 might sound the same but there still no solid answer on it yet. So the gr07 BE (Bass Edition) is more "worth" it if you do decide to get them since i am not sure if VSonic will make anymore of them due to it being discontinued just as the MKIIs are cuz the "Classic" version is replacing them both.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/699768/vsonic-gr07-classic-color-2014-edition-unboxing-and-first-impressions

 

But yeah it is best to do more research and know what type of sound signature goes best with the music you listen to the most, and that is why this Discovery Thread was such an invaluable resource for noobs like me cuz trying all those cheapo hyped gears taught me a great deal. I can only imagine more seasoned vets laughing at us cheapo peons with our hyped FOTM gears but it REALLY helped me to grasp what i am looking for. Plus it's crazy fun hopping on the hype train no doubt about that. haha


Edited by sfwalcer - 1/13/14 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post

So from those who recently received their Piston 2.0, and have given them sufficient break in and tip change, would it be safe to go on record and say these are definitely contenders for living up to the hype???

HYPE ON! wink.gif
post #18963 of 32897
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

^ Oh there are ALWAYS weaknesses, cuz THIS IS HEAD-FI!!! :deadhorse:

 

 

 

ikr, that's my personal limit for cans and iems cuz i just can't justify paying THAT much due to my ****ty sources and the music i listen to. : P

 

^ Great stuff meng, but dat part has me craving for some fried CHICKEN boi!!!

 

... yum dat treble sure looks tasty!!!

 

 

Like i said X2, THIS IS HEAD-FI!!!

 

LoL i am not worthy of dat Masa' title i am just lowly Alfred. Masa' WAYNE would have my head if i get all uppity. :tongue:

 

Yeah for some reason the VSonic gr07 is more expensive in China than what international resalers are selling them for. If you do go for the MKII, the newly released "Classic" edition for like $100 might sound the same but there still no solid answer on it yet. So the gr07 BE (Bass Edition) is more "worth" it if you do decide to get them since i am not sure if VSonic will make anymore of them due to it being discontinued just as the MKIIs are cuz the "Classic" version is replacing them both.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/699768/vsonic-gr07-classic-color-2014-edition-unboxing-and-first-impressions

 

But yeah it is best to do more research and know what type of sound signature goes best with the music you listen to the most, and that is why this Discovery Thread was such an invaluable resource for noobs like me cuz trying all those cheapo hyped gears taught me a great deal. I can only imagine more seasoned vets laughing at us cheapo peons with our hyped FOTM gears but it REALLY helped me to grasp what i am looking for. Plus it's crazy fun hopping on the hype train no doubt about that. haha

Before, we did follow the hype of the ckm77s, the cks77s, mostly audio technica stuff, then it evolved into other brands that we do not know of, like the monoprice, thermaltake, and the phillips. 

 

I still remember how people were pretty happy with the quality from the brands given on the thread, and the budget friendly iems in these branches, good thing DS kept all that history on the first page. Now here we are, knowing exactly what the old hyped budget iems did for us back then, and what the new unknown budget iems can do for us now. While it is great to find out that the pistons are awesome, I do not believe it'll be better than the kefs, but I know that it won't be that much worse than the kefs, and that is completely fine. I want massive bass with the smoothest mids and highs in one package, and they delivered, the pistons may have a simliar sound sig, but they are still somewhat different. That is why my brief comparison required people to do their research, as the most expensive iem (the ck10s) may not be that much better than say the im-02s, or the xba-h3s for example. If I had to put a budget iem that could compete with the m200s, I would put the bassos. However, the bassos are not better than the m200s, nor vice versa. 

 

I think they do deserve to be in the $300, but it'd be pretty nice if they were $250 in their msrp. Then the deflation would have been great to see them fall to $180 so we can pay $200 for shipping.


I wholeheartedly agree with everyone's inputs, and especially the last paragraph from yours sf. This is turning out to be a lively discussion from everyone, hope it stays healthy like it is!

 

Each iem has a unique sound, which is basically what us men and women are looking for our ears. Our ears require some love and affection, just like we do during relationships. Find that girl or guy that is one in a million, and go crazy! 

 

 

And LOL to that comment about my comparison, especially my quick description of the im-02s, lol. Though I just ate, I am still hungry and feel as though the post should not be reviewed just for that image you posted. That treble is definitely yummy, too bad the cost of getting those tenders is more than a dollar burger at macs! :( You need an additional 8 dollars for the tenders, and forcefully pay $171 dollars for the rest of the package of fries, ketchup (some sweet flavoury mids), and additional condiments (for some thickness and tight bass). Those look homemade, so I guess that restaurant/iem joke is dead now. Guess I'm not cut out to be a comedian. :o 


Edited by vlenbo - 1/14/14 at 12:16am
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 

... yum dat treble sure looks tasty!!!

 

LoL i am not worthy of dat Masa' title i am just lowly Alfred. Masa' WAYNE would have my head if i get all uppity. :tongue:

 

Yeah for some reason the VSonic gr07 is more expensive in China than what international resalers are selling them for. If you do go for the MKII, the newly released "Classic" edition for like $100 might sound the same but there still no solid answer on it yet. So the gr07 BE (Bass Edition) is more "worth" it if you do decide to get them since i am not sure if VSonic will make anymore of them due to it being discontinued just as the MKIIs are cuz the "Classic" version is replacing them both.

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/699768/vsonic-gr07-classic-color-2014-edition-unboxing-and-first-impressions

 

But yeah it is best to do more research and know what type of sound signature goes best with the music you listen to the most, and that is why this Discovery Thread was such an invaluable resource for noobs like me cuz trying all those cheapo hyped gears taught me a great deal. I can only imagine more seasoned vets laughing at us cheapo peons with our hyped FOTM gears but it REALLY helped me to grasp what i am looking for. Plus it's crazy fun hopping on the hype train no doubt about that. haha

Mmm, fried chicken. Tasty schiit meng.

 

     I still think you're a Masa' tho. U r da Masa' Troll, and I think there ain't nobody that could take that title away from ya, meng. Kudos!

Right now, going for $200 IEMs are a far cry from what I'm looking for this year. If I were to get any earphone at all, it'd have to be either the Moxpads or the B3s. Then I'll get the BH2 if I have the chance. But hopefully, when I graduate from high school (still a couple of years), I'll try to get a job ASAP and work towards endgame: Fidelio X1 and BeoPlay H6, plus an iPod Classic. You're right though, research and experimentation is pretty much what the Discovery Thread is all about. 

 

I really related to your last paragraph there. I guess I'm pretty much like everyone else here on this thread. And I am loving the hype train. The Discovery Thread, in my opinion, requires one thing: you spending money month after month after month.

:beerchug: 


Edited by thatBeatsguy - 1/14/14 at 12:33am
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The KEF M200 isn't as good as advertised. Not as this mighty goliath that slays all these IEM's in sound. They are VERY GOOD if not EXCELLENT IEM's with a thick, lush sound, which is mid focused, with a fair amount of bass presence, but with very relaxed highs, which to me is what brings it back down to the Piston, or MMDT, or the Gratitudes, and it's that the laid back treble gives it a thickness that just doesn't work for all genres, reduces instrument separation, and though it does have the ability to be detailed, it also can reduce it's soundstage. Add to that the fit issues for people and the clunkiness of the IEM itself? The KEF M200 is a solid if above average performer that can shake hands with the GR07, can look over it's shoulder at the Piston, but can't beat the Sennheiser IE80 or Trumpets/Coppers in performance and detail. 

post #18966 of 32897
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post

It's not just the GR07. It's that this new crop of sub $200 iems serve as a serious sanity check for people who own these uber iems. The difference in SQ is not nearly worth the price. It's like the hypercar market where you pay an extra $100k for that extra 0.3s off your 0-60 times.

Duly noted. frown.gif
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Unless you need the absolute, best at the time sound all the time, I also don't see much in spending above $200 for an IEM either. The diminishing returns is too great. Something will ALWAYS come along and dethrone it, and will do it cheaper.

 

Piston hype is warranted though. I really like them so far.

 

They need some EQ adjustment in the bass and midrange for refinement, but for $20 they kick a serious amount of ass. Enough so to use as a daily driver, because it works great with smartphones too, having controls and a mic.

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Cheapest I see for actual Sony hybrid tips is $7.99 shipped from either B&H or Adorama. Funny that two camera vendors have the best price. I used to have some knockoffs, but I suppose I'll buy a set of the actual deal and see how they work on my Pistons.

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

Unless you need the absolute, best at the time sound all the time, I also don't see much in spending above $200 for an IEM either. The diminishing returns is too great. Something will ALWAYS come along and dethrone it, and will do it cheaper.

Piston hype is warranted though. I really like them so far.

They need some EQ adjustment in the bass and midrange for refinement, but for $20 they kick a serious amount of ass. Enough so to use as a daily driver, because it works great with smartphones too, having controls and a mic.

Yeah, about the $200 mark is where the price of diminishing returns hits but you still need to know the right ones to choose, thankfully to the community we can dig through them and sift out the duds, because there's some real crap out there. Take the Dunu DN -1000 for example, which to me sounds so much better then Westone 4 costing almost double. Or H-200 another good value for money.
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Would like to read a comparison between Nuforce NE700X/M and Piston.
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Damnit, you guys in the US always get the best deals! :confused::(

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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post
 

 

Damnit, you guys in the US always get the best deals! :confused::(

yea, but their wallets suffer the most :wink:

 

i'm not in the US either...:o

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Originally Posted by Lifted Andreas View Post

Damnit, you guys in the US always get the best deals! confused.giffrown.gif

S2 on Amazon JP are only 6153 JPY

http://www.amazon.co.jp/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_9?__mk_ja_JP=カタカナ&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fidelio+s2&sprefix=Fidelio+s%2Caps%2C412
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