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post #18946 of 32858
^ Ha! I'm gonna subscribe to your newsletter :-)

Btw, even nick is gonna have a hard time getting me hyped on cheapies - that's how serious my resistance and resolve is lol! Well, as long as the MT301 doesn't happen along...
post #18947 of 32858
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

Well, one thing for sure is that they seem like an incredible iem for the price.... assuming of course that you all aren't crazy! :-)

Oh but we are. The Pistons still sounds amazing though so one doesn't rule out the other wink.gif
post #18948 of 32858
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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

According to what... price? Y'all should know that he law of diminishing returns hit hard for audio.
Even joker gave Gr07 a score of 9.1 in comparison to the JH 10/10. That would suggest a definite increase in SQ but three times? Nawwww

     Hmm...now I'm feeling the really big hype surrounding these little earphones. What makes them so good that it makes you stand so glued onto your statement that kinda sounds like they could trump CIEMs? Their bio-cellulose (probably the same material used in the legendary MDR-R10) drivers? Are they really that good?

post #18949 of 32858
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Hmm, hypothetically CIEMs like the JH13 or JH16 or even the UERM would be three times better than that. Just saying, you know.

 

They're not. I have trouble saying they're 30-40% better.

post #18950 of 32858
At least we have our heads on straifht sfwalcer
Good suggestion btw, if you want your iems to be 3 times better, blaze the dank wink.gif (note: I do not condone any drug use, save your money for new audio gear)
post #18951 of 32858
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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

 

They're not. I have trouble saying they're 30-40% better.

Okay...fine. If the GR02 is as good as y'all say they are, I will do all within my power to acquire them within the year. 

post #18952 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post
 

That price..

That's why one buys the knock-offs... just as good.

post #18953 of 32858
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

     Hmm...now I'm feeling the really big hype surrounding these little earphones. What makes them so good that it makes you stand so glued onto your statement that kinda sounds like they could trump CIEMs? Their bio-cellulose (probably the same material used in the legendary MDR-R10) drivers? Are they really that good?

Well they deserve the praise, trust
Technically speaking, they are fantastic no real weaknesses other than depth of soundstage (but thats monitoring IEMs for ya)
They were an eye opener for sure, truly a taste of high end sound that may be addicting lol
post #18954 of 32858
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post

Okay...fine. If the GR02 is as good as y'all say they are, I will do all within my power to acquire them within the year. 

GR07! GR02 is a signifcant step down
post #18955 of 32858
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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Okay...fine. If the GR02 is as good as y'all say they are, I will do all within my power to acquire them within the year. 

 

It's not just the GR07. It's that this new crop of sub $200 iems serve as a serious sanity check for people who own these uber iems. The difference in SQ is not nearly worth the price. It's like the hypercar market where you pay an extra $100k for that extra 0.3s off your 0-60 times.

post #18956 of 32858

Just a heads up. 

 

This is a brief comparison of my three favorite iems.

 

The ath-im02 is my second favorite out of the three iems, it has resolving vocals with impactful drums and bass, while having a crispy and tender treble

 

The h-3s have become my personal first favorite, and eric was right about it above the m200s, not exponentially, but enough to warrant an additional $100 purchase (I bought it with additional $150, right now amazon japan has them for 300 or so, so you can save 30 dollars with the cost in japan than the us). 

 

the m200s score the third favorite iem that I own.

 

and the ck10s are pretty much the fourth if I had to include a fourth one.

 

Sony H-3s

The mids are pretty smooth, smoother than the im02 while still sounding full and timbre accurate. The ck10s fail in this regard as they cannot keep a full sound with at least some crispness to the instruments and vocals, and totally messes up the timbre altogether. The m200s sounds fuller and has great timbre in its own right, but due to the lushness of the mids, the timbre falls short when compared to the h-3s. The h-3s do have an emotional upbringing to my music collection, just as the im-02 and m200s do. 

 

In fact, I Sometimes I pick the im-02 above the h-3s for more clarity and cleanness, sometimes I switch with the h-3s for that smooth bass, awesome balanced highs (not silibant or dark), and those nice creamy mids. The m200s have that wonderful bass that I will explain a few lines below, and the fact that the mids are lush as heck, while having the highs still detailed while sounding somewhat dark.

 

This means something, doesn't it?!

 

I will have these three iems as my companions for years to come (or until dsnuts hypes another unknown iem)

 

M200's bass vs the rest

 

It has a different bass than the h-3s, as the h-3s have a different bass sound and texture as the im-02s. The ck10s have similar bass to the im-02s, but I prefer the im-02s for its profound rumbling, which is something the ck10s lack. The h-3s rumble is stupendous, enough to satiate a basshead. Unfortunately, the bass is a bit too smooth at times, and makes me lose the full tone of the bass sound, so the im-02s and m200s fix that regard, only the m200s does it the best imo. However, the bass in each is different sounding, and cannot be compared, it is all about preference.

 

Basically, these three earphones have different sigs that should warrant someone's attention in the best iemi for them based on their SQ preference. 

 

M200s mids vs the rest

 

m200's mids are lusher, while the highs are pretty laid back, followed by a nice defined and warm, tight bass.

 

H-3s mids vs the rest

 

the h-3s mids are slightly less lush than the m200s, but has more clarity than the m200s and makes the instruments sound more natural (as well as vocals) imo. Unfortunately, the volume, like the m200s, have to be high in order for the vocals to be heard.

 

IM-02s mids vs the rest

 

The im-02s mids are euphonic and pretty smooth in its own right. It has this trait of the ck10s, but adds additional detail that the ck10s lacked. The highs have a good crisp, and at times, hot bite that people may enjoy. The h-3s highs are usually between bright and dark, just the perfect balance imo. It has that nice and refined detail that the im-02s slightly lack, but the h-3s lack the crispness, yet still smooth, sound of the im-02s. 

post #18957 of 32858
Yeah exactly right eke
Chasing that last 10 - 20 percent of sound is an addicting adventure that will hit your wallet hard
Its just most audiophiles will find flaws in SQs and will spend lots of money trying to rectify those flaws without regards to money spent
Those flaws will be constantly nagging them and irriating them until the point of purchasing a new IEM
Not to mention the taste of something even better is tantalizing, thats just human nature
Trick is to find the right signature that you can enjoy music with without blowing through your paycheck
All in all,
None of you audiophiles should take up hard drugs LOL
post #18958 of 32858
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

^ Ha! I'm gonna subscribe to your newsletter :-)

Btw, even nick is gonna have a hard time getting me hyped on cheapies - that's how serious my resistance and resolve is lol! Well, as long as the MT301 doesn't happen along...

^ You already has, you know which thread to hit up. hoho :evil:

 

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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post


Oh but we are. The Pistons still sounds amazing though so one doesn't rule out the other wink.gif

i am sure the Pistons are great sounding regardless of their cheap price, but some mofos are hyping them up so much that they are literally talkin' outta' they arses instead of using their brains meng, and it makes for HILARIOUS reading material.

 

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Originally Posted by eke2k6 View Post
 

 

They're not. I have trouble saying they're 30-40% better.

Yeppp HYPE CHECKED!!! Dat grounded perspective. :cool:

 

Law of diminished returns is a BEYATCH!!!

 

Someones says it the best. haha ;)

 

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

At least we have our heads on straifht sfwalcer
Good suggestion btw, if you want your iems to be 3 times better, blaze the dank wink.gif (note: I do not condone any drug use, save your money for new audio gear)

Or you can go the OTHER route, but you better have a liver of steel like this mofo.... haha

 

http://www.head-fi.org/u/158321/kova4a

 

"Alcohol consumption increases sound quality."

 

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Originally Posted by thatBeatsguy View Post
 

Okay...fine. If the GR02 GR07 is as good as y'all say they are, I will do all within my power to acquire them within the year. 

You meant the GR07 BEs??? If you can get them for like $100 and under used that is one hell of a steal, since they are on sale now for $130 - $140 new BUT there are so many interesting gears coming out that the gr07 is a bit dated cuz of their more old school 2D esque presentation. 

 

For $200 nowadays which was what the gr07 originally commanded, there are A LOT more better options out there these days, and the DUNU DN1Ks is a good example of that. The DN1Ks might not be 3X better than the gr07s but i am sure they are more "refined" overall.

 

It's an interesting/ fun time indeed for iem/ audio lovers that's for sure, so many options ranging from cheap, to expensive or even UBER expensive so you gotta' do your research and know what you REALLY want meng. It's like a curse and a blessing all at once. haha

 

/rant

post #18959 of 32858
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

 

"Alcohol consumption increases sound quality."

 

You meant the GR07 BEs??? If you can get them for like $100 and under used that is one hell of a steal, since they are on sale now for $130 - $140 new BUT there are so many interesting gears coming out that the gr07 is a bit dated cuz of their more old school 2D esque presentation. 

 

For $200 nowadays which was what the gr07 originally commanded, there are A LOT more better options out there these days, and the DUNU DN1Ks is a good example of that. The DN1Ks might not be 3X better than the gr07s but i am sure they are more "refined" overall.

 

It's an interesting/ fun time indeed for iem/ audio lovers that's for sure, so many options ranging from cheap, to expensive or even UBER expensive so you gotta' do your research and know what you REALLY want meng. It's like a curse and a blessing all at once. haha

 

/rant

LMAO on the 'alcohol consumption' thing. We should ask one of the guys from the Sound Science forum to prove this statement, but proven or not, I approve of this.

 

     Oh lol. I guess I forgot what I wrote there. I'm seeing the GR07 Mk2 at about $215 here. However, I'm seeing a sort of "bass edition" and a "classic edition" for half the price. It's getting confusing. But what you said on its "2D-esque presentation" tipped me off. I think I'll resolve to get the DN-1k instead. But what of my amp now?

 

     I guess like you said, audio is "like a curse and a blessing all at once." Those are really good words of wisdom, Masa' Walsa.

post #18960 of 32858
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post

^

i am sure the Pistons are great sounding regardless of their cheap price, but some mofos are hyping them up so much that they are literally talkin' outta' they arses instead of using their brains meng, and it makes for HILARIOUS reading material.

http://www.head-fi.org/u/158321/kova4a

"Alcohol consumption increases sound quality."

/rant

"When you're right you're right, and you you're always right!"

Barf - Spaceballs
Edited by peter123 - 1/13/14 at 11:36pm
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