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post #18586 of 32865
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post

Thanks sf, and I have to say, Eric was right on the money with the h-3s.

I say it's like the kefs, but a lot better in clarity, smoother bass than the m200s (Though it also makes the bass sound muddy, but not that much really), and the highs...you have to buy these just for the highs to be perfectly honest. The best, crisp, yet not silibant like the im-02s are (but then again, the im-02s sound silibant on some recordings just like the h-3s also sound silibant in some of the others I've heard), and man, the soundstage is immersive.

The sound is thick, and timbre is pretty awesome. Similar to the m200s, and better than the im02's. I wish I had the doppios...

Edit: I Hate eric for not hyping the h-3s enough, I would have killed the postman for not delivering the appointed time that amazon claimed it would arrive. 

jk!

Drums and bass, though, sound better on the im-02s and kef m200s as they aren't smooth as the h-3s, but I don't hate the h-3s for that, as it is a unique sound I haven't heard of.

Thanks for the comparisons. Gives me a decent picture of the sound signature, and kinda reaffirms what I thought. Well done.
post #18587 of 32865
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Originally Posted by vlenbo View Post
 

im-02, kef m200, and the xba-h3 pass this with flying colors. I hear the line twice, but I hear an intermittent chatter + laughter three times during Ceelo's description of the woman he met.

 

 

Try this for vocals, ear pleasing, smooth, and euphonic female vocals.

I took this challenge with the IEM's I currently have, on my iphone 5, with no amp. 

 

The Ceelo Green video :

 

WINNERS : OM Audio IEP, KEF M200, UE 700, Altec Lansing MZX606, MMDT, VSonic GR99LE, Philips SHE3580

LOSERS : Samsung HS-330

 

The crowd talking and the laughter was not audible with the Samsung. This dual dynamic failed miserably with micro details. Now this isn't to mean all did well. The Philips and VSonic barely picked it up, and I had to "squint" my ears to hear it better, but it was still audible. The KEF M200 and Miles Davis Trumpets were both slightly better than the Philips and VSonic, but not by much. It seems all the dynamic driver IEM's struggled mightily with micro detail. The clearest details, and where I was made aware of details the best was with the UE 700 and OM Audio IEP. With the Altec Lansing just a touch behind them, but not by  much. So for detail retrieval, the BA based drivers did the best. Not too surprised by this. But bass and overall fun was easily a win for the dynamic driver 'phones.  

 

The female vocals video :

 

WINNERS : Monster Miles Davis Trumpets, KEF M200, Altec Lansing MZX606, OM Audio IEP, Samsung HS-330

LOSERS : UE 700, VSonic GR99LE, Philips SHE3580

 

Now for smoothness, lack of sibilance, detail, and dynamics, the Trumpets trumped them all. By a mile. Her voice absolutely soars, pulls you in, and the guitar timbre and plucks were precise, micro detailed, and resonant. The KEF M200 followed right behind, but the thickness of the mids made for less exciting resonance, less decay times, and thus muted some of the guitar parts. Still detailed and no sibilance at all. You can easily hear her breathing, pauses, and even swallows. This is about the same for the single BA Altec Lansing. This BA really does act like a dynamic in many ways. The details and resonance was there, and guitars were clear and dynamic, BUT the timbre was not as natural, and even though the vocals were nicely presented, the guitars and accompaniments were not as natural sounding, and had that typical plasticky BA sound. The OM Audio IEP has it's high points with the instruments being sharp, detailed, with wicked decay times and resonant, BUT the vocals suffered from sibilance in places, and there was little in the area of smoothness, as the vocals were very forward. The Samsung, a loser in micro detail, actually provided the smoothest presentation vocally next to the Trumpets and M200. The female voice was controlled, dynamic, and free of sibilance, which though a bit muted in the treble, and lacking the finer details, still provided accurate timbre, decent decay, and a more enjoyable and smooth listening experience. The issue with the losers on this list was a combination of sibilance in her voice for most of the song, and in the case of the UE 700, way too much treble response, as to kill any chance of smoothness, and again not the most natural timbre in the instruments. This is not the case for the dynamic drivers, as they delivered in spades with timbre, decay, and resonance in the instruments, and especially the strings, but the harsh shhh thhh and kkkhhs simply ruin a otherwise beautiful vocal delivery. 

 

That's it folks. Take it for what it's worth. Less than 12 hours before I go FiiO X3, Xiaomi Piston, and Sennheiser CX150 on yer @$$ez!


Edited by IEMagnet01 - 1/10/14 at 1:30am
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post #18589 of 32865
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Originally Posted by kahaluu View Post
 

Yeah, I really like the sound sig. of the M200's, but unfortunately the fit and seal got to me. Too much of a struggle for me.

Same problem I had with them. I hope they correct this in the future with a new model.

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Take the fit problems, add in unreliability, having problems left side on kef, drops these a few notches imo
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I know it's been said before, but, man, this thread moves fast. Not too long ago I had many of the discussed headphones, and could comment intelligently (I hope)... Now, too many too fast, way behind. Lots of appealing stuff out, so many headphones, so little time... The om appeals, as inner peace is always desirable, the Kickstarter sounds good, incomings are appealing, and it seems one can purchase almost every headphone from China for $100! Interesting times indeed
post #18592 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Seems like headfi is being cyber attacked by Indian Gypsies. Lol. So much spam it is unbelievable..
Maybe the mods can delete the last 50 pages or so since it's just repeats of the same stuff.
post #18593 of 32865
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post


Maybe the mods can delete the last 50 pages or so since it's just repeats of the same stuff.

 

lol, wow

what do you mean? there's proper discussion in the last 50 pages dude

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Congestion is gone from the miss and the bass is now tight for the r3 😎
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Well, I see what DannyBai means. It seems like everyday there is a two or three posts stating "I can't wait the earphone to get here," "the mailman is driving the block,"... "I saw the mailman but he didn't see me..." ... "I can wait" "I can't wait"  ... "I know you can't wait but neither can I ..." etc.

 

Fellas, we're all excited about new stuff and want to talk about it, but those posts aren't adding value to the thread. Dsnuts can correct me if I'm wrong, but the thread was about discovering new phones, posting information you found on the product  (reviews, photos, etc.), and then posting your impressions of the products once you bought and/or heard it. 

 

Everything else is beginning to be repetitive and boring padding. I mean I'm sorry, but where your package is at in the postal system is just not interesting on this thread! Now, you ordered something two months ago, but the seller promised you would have it within two weeks, that's interesting. We would want to know who the seller is. 

I'm not trying to be mean, elitist or think I have more knowledge than anyone else (and I don't want to call names, but you know who you are), but to say everyday in two or three different posts how you can't wait for a certain earphone to arrive is not cool. It comes across as if you're padding and just trying to build up your posts count (which means nothing here). Giving us an insight on discoveries of sound, fit and aesthetics of a new product (or product new to you) is what add value to the thread. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way, but other people are leery to state this because we know some people are sensitive and no one wants to hurt anyone's feelings. I'm certainly not trying to be an a--, insensitive or mean. This is really meant to be helpful post. When I joined head-fi, some of the old timers kind had to steer me in the right direction about some of the unwritten rules on the website that helps everyone provide value.

A main unwritten rule, for example, that irritates many is to suggest someone else buy or try an earphone or headphone that you haven't heard yourself. But anyway, I hope these comments are taken in the spirit in which I have given them. Again, not to be hurtful or confrontational, but to help, and get this thread back to being a little bit more value filled. :beerchug:

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I see plenty of value from everyone's postings. I also see some unwarranted frustration directed at certain posters because of personal distaste for the information they wish to share.

 

If we were to go by what you said, then all posters should just post their first impression once and be done with it. It's a tall order, because not one person has done so since the start of this thread, and there is no reason that they should.

 

Just because there is less control of the flow of information, does not mean it is not useful. I see more involvement and interest as a good thing.

 

If you want to control a public forum, become a moderator.

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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post
 

I see plenty of value from everyone's postings. I also see some unwarranted frustration directed at certain posters because of personal distaste for the information they wish to share.

 

If we were to go by what you said, then all posters should just post their first impression once and be done with it. It's a tall order, because not one person has done so since the start of this thread, and there is no reason that they should.

 

Just because there is less control of the flow of information, does not mean it is not useful. I see more involvement and interest as a good thing.

 

If you want to control a public forum, become a moderator.

 

 

No, you didn't read what typed if that what you took away from it. The problem is not just this thread. For example, I see some posters getting irritated on another impressions thread about a certain headphone because the last several posts have been about USPS and not a word about the product.

I don't need to become a moderator to say that the thread is off a bit of what it is suppose to be about. I think the creator of this thread hinted at the same observations, but in a less detailed manner. There is nothing useful about typing three or four times in a thread, "I can't wait for XXXX product to get here ..." Again, just trying to be helpful. Now these sort of things have happened before and a moderator was brought in. We were trying to avoid that. Constructive criticism should be taken in the manner given. Or not. I'm still having a great day! :beerchug:

post #18598 of 32865
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post


Maybe the mods can delete the last 50 pages or so since it's just repeats of the same stuff.

 

X2

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Visualgrandprix 2014 rankings are up.  What do you think about them?

 

http://www.visualgrandprix.com/vgp2014/vgp_p2_12.html

 

Gold winners bolded

 

Sennheiser IE 800 > ATH-IM04

 

Sennheiser IE 80 > ATH-IM03 and XBA-H3

 

Sony XBA-H2 > KEF M200

 

Audio-Technica ATH-IM02 > ATH-IM70, Fidelio S2, and Zero Audio Doppio

 

Shure SRH1540 > Fidelio X1

 

With KEF M200, Zero Audio Doppio, and Fidelio X1 getting such rave reviews in this thread, I'm wondering if these reviewers know what they're talking about.

post #18600 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

Word has it that some of our good buddies have dove in both feet on them new doppios. Hmm I wonder why  :ph34r:.. I eagerly look forward to more impressions of them.. 

 

Heys guys I am gonna post this because it is a great test track for detail..

 

 

Ceelo sangs about Saturday night. Can you hear the crowd in line? This clip is not gonna be the same as a CD version of this tune, If you guys own this album. Listen to this exact track with your best in ears. If you can clearly make out the people in line of the night club you got some in ears that can pick up micro details. If your in ears are really good you will be able to pick up the people in line twice.. One of my test tracks for detail. Even though it is only a part of the background of this track. The crowd that is in line at the club can only be heard with phones that can pick up the full detail of the track.. Give it a go and see if your favorites can pick up this little detail.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by hearing the crowd in line - do you mean the chatter-like sound at 0:55 ish and 1:48 ish? Or am I not listening to the right thing at all?

 

If those were it, is the second one supposed to be a lot softer than the first one? Because the one at 1:48 is at least a couple db softer to me.

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