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post #18421 of 32875
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Fostex In February I heard

If the Fostex are coming out in Feb, then I'll have my fiance get them for me as a valentines present? That would be pretty awesome. 

post #18422 of 32875
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I'm sure the H3 does kick ass, but measurements are not opinions. There is nothing subjective about a measured response. How it sounds is where everything is subjective.

Based on the measurements, for someone like me that likes a flat response it just doesn't make sense to take that risk, unless I heard it first on a tour or from someone else and really enjoyed it.

Without impressions, most of us would never know how great some of these are. It's a huge benefit to everyone (and a nightmare to wallets everywhere)

I agree with you on all those things. It's just that some of the "old timers" here start to think that their opinion of audio is the only opinion that counts, and if someone is new to head-fi or any other audiophile forum, that the opinions expressed are somehow less valid or carries a "worthlessness" to it. See some of the comments on other threads for proof of this. It's like if Jaxk Oldtimey says the Palooka T2000 is the greatest IEM since the stone age, and if anyone else DARE to say "You know, I tried the Palooka T2000 and it just didn't seem to ring as true for me." Then you get the resulting posts with "well who cares about your opinion" and "I've been listening to high end audio for a hundred years, and so have my head-fi buddies, and they like the T2000, so you sir or ma'am are WRONG." It gets to that type of response, which is sad. I think this place is fun when we get the differing opinions, we share our discoveries in earnest, and provide comparisons and opinions, even if they are against the popular belief. That's when this place gets interesting and fun. Not when people get so darned sensitive about their "favorite" IEM.


Edited by IEMagnet01 - 1/7/14 at 9:18pm
post #18423 of 32875
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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post

I'm sure they are good. I bought the M200 solely based on your endorsement, and aside from QC, sonically they were awesome, as you said they would be. As I'm sure the DUNU will be better than the M200 as well. 

I never stated that the Dunu was better than the m200, but you may find that they are, base on the sound signature that you like best.
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I don't think the so called "old timers" think it is only their opinions that count. That couldn't be farthest from the truth. I think, however, that frustration sets in with some of the youngsters who love to give opinions about products THEY HAVEN't heard yet. And that has always been a sore spot on head-fi since the day I found this wonderful website. Your opinion is your opinion, but at least have the decency to hear it for yourself before saying a product is good or bad. Look, many members here whose opinions I generally respect dislike the Cardas. I love the Cardas, but I respect their opinions because they have heard it at least. Likewise, I never liked the DB02 or TF10 (that much), while others I respect have raved about it. But those who loved those earphones never criticized me much for not liking them, because I talked about what I was hearing, not what I read someone say about those earphones.
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I never stated that the Dunu was better than the m200, but you may find that they are, base on the sound signature that you like best.

I'm sorry if it seems that it read that way. I didn't mean to imply that you said the DUNU was better than the M200, but that I hope the DUNU is better than the M200 to my ears when they arrive. 

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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

I don't think the so called "old timers" think it is only their opinions that count. That couldn't be farthest from the truth. I think, however, that frustration sets in with some of the youngsters who love to give opinions about products THEY HAVEN't heard yet. And that has always been a sore spot on head-fi since the day I found this wonderful website. Your opinion is your opinion, but at least have the decency to hear it for yourself before saying a product is good or bad. Look, many members here whose opinions I generally respect dislike the Cardas. I love the Cardas, but I respect their opinions because they have heard it at least. Likewise, I never liked the DB02 or TF10 (that much), while others I respect have raved about it. But those who loved those earphones never criticized me much for not liking them, because I talked about what I was hearing, not what I read someone say about those earphones.

I agree with you there too. I disliked the FA-DBA02, Fidelio S2, and Sony MH1C, and those three had HUGE followings. I didn't see what the fuss was about, because to my ears they weren't all that, and I stated my opinion about them all. Openly and freely. On the threads of those particular IEMs. I never had any issues with those who liked them, getting all bend out of shape about my dissenting view. Now the folks on the Brainwavz Delta thread..complete opposite. Always attacking and whining at those who have an opposing view on that IEM. So I know what you mean, and how people can react.

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Think of audio like you would choose a partner.

They have measured features (height, bra size), but can also be modded (high heels, plastic surgery). Those mods can still be measured in absolute terms.

Their looks, personality, demeanor.. etc are all subjective. What attracts one person would turn away another. The same can be said for sound signature to someone's ears.

Its just too bad that its so difficult and expensive to measure headphones and earphones. I'd love to see what the Doppio, Piston, M200, and a lot more look like.
post #18428 of 32875
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

Think of audio like you would choose a partner.

They have measured features (height, bra size), but can also be modded (high heels, plastic surgery). Those mods can still be measured in absolute terms.

Their looks, personality, demeanor.. etc are all subjective. What attracts one person would turn away another. The same can be said for sound signature to someone's ears.

Its just too bad that its so difficult and expensive to measure headphones and earphones. I'd love to see what the Doppio, Piston, M200, and a lot more look like.
modding your partner can be more expensive lol
post #18429 of 32875
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

Think of audio like you would choose a partner.

They have measured features (height, bra size), but can also be modded (high heels, plastic surgery). Those mods can still be measured in absolute terms.

Their looks, personality, demeanor.. etc are all subjective. What attracts one person would turn away another. The same can be said for sound signature to someone's ears.

Its just too bad that its so difficult and expensive to measure headphones and earphones. I'd love to see what the Doppio, Piston, M200, and a lot more look like.

So you saying you'd like to have many partners? Or just play the sound field? lol

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Originally Posted by spurxiii View Post


modding your partner can be more expensive lol

patching her up with tape is also unsightly lol

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Originally Posted by IEMagnet01 View Post

patching her up with tape is also unsightly lol
Yes best to get it done professionally lol
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Originally Posted by bhazard View Post

Think of audio like you would choose a partner.

They have measured features (height, bra size), but can also be modded (high heels, plastic surgery). Those mods can still be measured in absolute terms.

Their looks, personality, demeanor.. etc are all subjective. What attracts one person would turn away another. The same can be said for sound signature to someone's ears.

Its just too bad that its so difficult and expensive to measure headphones and earphones. I'd love to see what the Doppio, Piston, M200, and a lot more look like.
modding your partner can be more expensive lol
Yeah, they need modding cos they've got great slam down the low end but not much up top.
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Yeah, they need modding cos they've got great slam down the low end but not much up top.

i like a slamming low end and a bit lacking up top...that's my fiance!?! haha

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I ended up purchasing the Nuforce NE-770X and Sennheiser CX150 for $25.00 (for both new). It seems both got pretty decent reviews, and two IEM's for $25? I couldn't pass it up. I've owned the CX150 before, and it's a very balanced Sennheiser low ender (much like the CX215), and I've never heard or owned a Nuforce IEM before. 

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i'm curious, but is anybody going to take the plunge on the new budget dual drivers from astrotec, the ax30/ax35? they're on sale on ugomark right now for $51. i would have thought someone in this thread would have jumped on them by now.


anybody?

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