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Man, I almost succumbed and hit the button on those two JVCs, but came to my senses quickly! I'm have my ASG-1.2 coming back to me soon; I have the $15 Scosche IEM856 dual dynamic/BA driver coming in; and the $72 ATH-CKM500. I think that's enough for me. Plus I know I'm going to get that Vsonic hybrid, and perhaps the JVC FXD80. Then I want a couple of new customs, so I will live through you guys on some of the cheaper but great sounding stuff. I do believe you though, because not as cheap, but the Audiofly AF45 is outstanding to retail for $60 or less.  Happy listening.

 

(oh, forgot I have the JVC FXT-90 - when my buddy ever return it back to me - to satisfy that JVC house sound I love so much)


I am envious eric you are all about the best of the best and while these cheapos probably got your curiosity going. You are skipping the teasers and going for the best. I look forward to see what you have to say about the CKM500 and the many others you are getting soon.. .These are exciting times. So much greatness that are coming out. This hobby continues to evolve. You are the best my friend..I appreciate all your insight and know how on these earphones.

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Damn, I wrote most of a lengthy review of the fx101 phones and somehow deleted it all.  I really don't feel like doing it again so here is a coles notes version:

 

Very good sounding at the price, I'm not kidding these could easily go for a higher price based on the sound alone.  The build quality of the phones themselves seems solid enough, the cabling is very thin and cheap looking especially at the plug and where the cable goes inside the housing on the phones, but the big upside is that there is very little microphonics on these so I'm not complaining.  Aesthetically speaking they look like budget phones targeted at teens/preteens but the sonic capabilities of these are something else.

 

The phones come with 3 sizes of tips which should really do for most people, I ended up sticking my smallest tips from the old nuforce ne700x when experimenting but the stock tips worked right for me as well.  Comfort is 10x better on these for my ears than the nuforces, for people with small ear canals like me these JVC are very nice, ne700x would hurt within an hour of listening while the fx101 are comfortable for hours.  Isolation is also very good on these, quite a bit better than the ne700x but the nuforces were never said to isolate very well even with a tight seal, no such problem with the fx101 if you need isolation.

 

Soundwise thumbs up from me, there is great clarity and detail in almost all frequency ranges, the fx101 is much more efficient than my now dead nuforces, I'd say the nuforces needed at least 30% more juice to reach the same sound pressure level as the fx101.. the slight downside of this sensitivity is that when no music is playing but the player is turned on there is a very faint hiss that can be heard, this is on a cowoni9 with an amp powerfull enough to drive Ultrasone HFI780 quite decently so with other players the hiss may be inaudible.  To me not a big deal, I don't listen to absolute silence on my player so..

 

The sound signature is a fun V shape as expected, though to me the first half of the V (the lower end) is much more pronounced.  Right out of the box I found the bass as a whole to be overbearing, nice and meaty sounding but a bit overdone and somewhat wrong to my ears because it would hide detail in the lower bass range and bleed into the mids a bit, it just sounded a tad boomy.. playing with the EQ I found that dropping a narrow band at 135Hz by 2db changed the phone from a good budget bass phone to something wonderfull.  In fact after playing with the EQ for hours I'm not touching the other ranges at all anymore, I may find a more optimal setting for the bass yet but that 2db drop at 135Hz has taken a lot of the boomyness out and brought out the detail in the mid and lower bass area, it's smoothed the lower end out nicely in comparison to what it was.  I'm sure I'm not perfectly flat on the bass response but it is much much better and the detail is that approaching what I had with the ne700x now, and it's still quite fun.  Extension is good as well, songs recorded and mastered with a wide dynamic range really show presence in the sub bass, especially after adjusting the upper bass down a bit.

 

The mids and highs are just about right to me on the fx101, taking down the upper bass has also helped the mids out a bit which were not too bad to begin with.. again I won't claim a perfect balance but I've not needed to touch any of the other frequencies, there's lots of detail and clarity across the ranges.

 

 

To conclude, these are an awesome deal at $30, if you're buying them for under $20 in the states it's a steal because the sound is comparable to higher class phones.  The higher end IEMs may or may not offer you more than this budget phone but if the difference is 5% or 10% in quality I'm not sure another $100,$200,$300 is worth it to me, that is up to you to decide.  Only complaint I have is the bass tuning on these phones out of the box, I prefer fixing mids and upper ranges with the EQ as I find it much easier but I think I found something quite nice in the end, I think the bass is now more enjoyable than the nuforce ne700x which was fantastic in it's own right.

 

Cheers Dsnuts, I like my FX101s.. wish we had US pricing up here cause then I'd be all over the fx40 as well.

 

Hey this is a great take on them. I am glad you got a good sounding cheapo.. I have been burning my pair in non stop on both earphones and both have been improving for me. I know many of you guys don't believe in burn in but I have to say both earphones do sound better after some burn time.. I am very amazed at the level of sound I am getting on both pairs of earphones. It is just awesome to get more for your money on these cheaper Iems. It just makes me all warm and fuzzy.. Lol. Happy listening my friend and I hope these will last a bit longer than your nuForces.

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Maybe Eric can do a CKM500 vs. FXT90 comparison sometime. Sounds like an interesting A/B to me. 

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Maybe Eric can do a CKM500 vs. FXT90 comparison sometime. Sounds like an interesting A/B to me. 


Oh I am sure he will let us know. I am curious too.

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http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HAFXC80-Series-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B003AIL2HY

 

Anyone try these yet?

 

Nevermind, I meant in comparison to the 40s.


Edited by Sil3nce - 5/21/12 at 1:57pm
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I think Katun has them. If I remember what he said about them in his FX67 thread. He didn't like them for some reason. Those use the same drivers that are on the FXC51. Some folks like them over the FXC51.. I am sure they have a similar tuning to the FXC51. more balanced and less boomy n the bass is what the word is on them .

 

To my ears the new FX40 I like more than the older FXC51.  And it is because of these FX40s I am eagerly awaiting the new FXD80.. IT looks like the FXD60s are being sold on ebay but that price is not a good one. I know the price will drop once the other earphones will be released.

 

So I realize now that the boosted highs are on here for a reason. This is funny but the v shape sound you guys are hearing on open box. Is FLAT now. Lol. The mids come up to the highs and the highs mellow out. So what I am hearing now? Much better balanced clean even sound. so again commence burn and do not fully judge these until at least a 100 hours.

 

When having just one simply isn't enough. 052112150931.jpg


Edited by Dsnuts - 5/21/12 at 2:10pm
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I am envious eric you are all about the best of the best and while these cheapos probably got your curiosity going. You are skipping the teasers and going for the best. I look forward to see what you have to say about the CKM500 and the many others you are getting soon.. .These are exciting times. So much greatness that are coming out. This hobby continues to evolve. You are the best my friend..I appreciate all your insight and know how on these earphones.

Thank you Dsnuts. I admit I was a bit skeptical regarding your assessment of cheap IEMs when you first started posting about these cheapies, but you have been right on point, my friend. I have yet to hear anything that didn't sound as you described it to be (regardless of whether I liked the sound signature (Isurus) or not (CKM50). So keep finding the bargains for us. Oh, and you're right, what you could only get in sound for $200 or more a couple of years ago you can easily find for under $50 nowadays. Happy listening!! beerchug.gif

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http://www.amazon.com/JVC-HAFXC80-Series-In-Ear-Headphones/dp/B003AIL2HY

 

Anyone try these yet?

 

Nevermind, I meant in comparison to the 40s.

I have both of these. They are very different. The HAFXC80 is a microdriver IEM. I just compared them side by side. The bass on the HA-FX40 is so much better. The HA-FX40 is also much more comfortable. With the HAFXC80, the hard driver enclosure is the ear canal. The sound the HA-FX40 is also more natural.

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Now I remember why I don't use the HAFXC51 and HAFXC80 I bought a few months ago. They are uncomfortable, and the treble sounds strange. The bass is also a bit weak. i guess I'll pass on the FXD60 and other microdriver IEMs.

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Good to see you getting these my friend. I will tell you right now because you are a bass lover..If you haven't gotten them yet. Try out a FX101. Be prepared for a nice surprise.  Happy listening fellas.. And BURN!!!! These Carbon nanotubes are EXTRA STIFF. Burn baby burn!!

 

Burning away as we speak, as is my wallet because I ordered the FX101s early this morning. :)

 

One of the things that is really impressing me with the FX40 is how fast the driver is. I don't know how it's able to produce such prominent bass while maintaining the clarity and accuracy in the rest of the spectrum for just $20.

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Luckily I found FX101s that will ship to Alaska and I am so stoked. As if it's some baron wilderness. Shipping stuff here is silly sometimes. :(

I couldn't find FX40s that will ship but surely in a month or two more vendors will have them. By that time though Dsnuts will have found the next best thing. I can't wait. :D


Edited by inContrast - 5/21/12 at 3:11pm
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Burning away as we speak, as is my wallet because I ordered the FX101s early this morning. :)

 

One of the things that is really impressing me with the FX40 is how fast the driver is. I don't know how it's able to produce such prominent bass while maintaining the clarity and accuracy in the rest of the spectrum for just $20.

 

Exactly this!! So I bet you guys were thinking I was smoking something when I mentioned this on my initial impression of this. These have the precision and speed of BAs but with the full bass end of a Dynamic..JVC is definitely onto something here with these drivers.

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Luckily I found FX101s that will ship to Alaska and I am so stoked. As if it's some baron wilderness. Shipping stuff here is silly sometimes. :(

I couldn't find FX40s that will ship but surely in a month or two more vendors will have them. By that time though Dsnuts will have found the next best thing. I can't wait. :D

 

Well that all depends. I only wish there was more like these JVCs. But I do have hope because of these JVCs. Other Japanese manufacturers.. SONY, Panasonic, AT. All come to mind are gonna have to offer more for less..These equal some of these guys best offerings not a year ago. But we have JVC to thank for these gems for sure.

 

The FX101 is a fantastic iem. I almost poo my pants when I heard them on first listen. Believe me the sound that comes from the HAFX101 and these FX40s has nothing to do with what we all pay for them. We will see what happens. It is a very exciting time for earphone fans...If only the headphone guys realized where the real innovation is now a days. Lol! Hey I love my full sized but my goodness. You want to talk about a leap in sound quality both these represent over anything $16 in headphone land. Lol!

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Just went through like 30 pages.
Funny thing, I was looking at the fx40 2 monthes ago, thought it was an interesting design with technology that reminded me of the sony sa5000.
They even look like a mini one! It's no surprise that they're a steal.
Thanks for emptying my wallet more mah nuts.
ps: I enjoyed the cks77 immensely.
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I have 112 hours burn-in on the 40's. Okay to stop the burn and enjoy listening to them?

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Just went through like 30 pages.
Funny thing, I was looking at the fx40 2 monthes ago, thought it was an interesting design with technology that reminded me of the sony sa5000.
They even look like a mini one! It's no surprise that they're a steal.
Thanks for emptying my wallet more mah nuts.
ps: I enjoyed the cks77 immensely.


Oh nice you got them. Ya those are a permanent part of my collection. Lol! you make it sound like I am getting you guys to bite on a high end earphone that are the norm around here. The FX40 cost $21 bux and the FX101 $16.. In headfi terms. That don't equate to tax for a decent headphone. Lol!.

 

The thing is I can't promise everyone that ends up getting these will like them or end up enamored by them like I have but I will tell you guys one thing for sure. I truly doubt there is anything out there in headphone land that can match the sounds coming out of these earphones for the cost. I know there are plenty of budget iems on these threads and I am sure even more we haven't heard yet. But the value for sound is through the roof on both these gems.. So far I simply have not heard anything that approach both these for the price.

 

I look forward to everyones input on these. I truly hope you guys can understand my enthusiasm for these earphones. Why I am so excited about these..While others on these threads spend $100s Lets all spend $10s and get the same or even better sound. Lol!!

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