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post #14926 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

You just described the S2. The MA750 got all that minus the sound stage to be larger over the XB90.

 

I expect the XBA-H3 to be a top tier sound for $350..That is what I am hoping for.

 

 

 

well, in that case, even more refined than S2 :D wonder if they will ever go on a big sale, say under 200...

post #14927 of 32858
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Well the CKS1Ks are a guilty pleasure. They are enjoyable but far from what phones like the MA750 represent. The MA750 definitely has a high end tuning involved with their sound..The phones are not as bright as the CKN70 and details abound like the CKN70 but I want to say the tuning is more immaculate, more natural, more mature sounding over the CKN70.. Tonality is more neutral and the transparency in the sound is much like the S2 in that it will show exactly how good your sources are.. The bass end is similar to the CKN70 in quantity, a bit less mid bass emphasis and excellent sub bass so not overly colored in that region. The balance on these earphones are amazing.. It is reference level balance we are talking about here it just don't get much better for balance.

 

If you guys want one earphone to have a base of what a solid sound should be. That phone should be the MA750 or the S2.. The MA750 is easily recommendable for guys that want ease of use and some isolation on the go. They aren't the best at isolation but is much better over the S2. The S2 is more for guys that have a variety of sources/amps more power that don't mind the sound to leak a little for the ability to scale to more equipment and have an excellent stage with your neutrality.


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/1/13 at 4:08pm
post #14928 of 32858
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post


I love you


Not here Cameron..Guy crushes are ok but not to that level.!

post #14929 of 32858

See, what I'm looking for is a higher end CKN70 as l like the sound sig on it. Ok, so maybe not exactly the same, as I want my next pair of iem's to be slightly less artificial sounding and maybe not have as harsh highs. Also, I'm looking for slightly more bass in terms of quantity.

post #14930 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post
 

See, what I'm looking for is a higher end CKN70 as l like the sound sig on it. Ok, so maybe not exactly the same, as I want my next pair of iem's to be slightly less artificial sounding and maybe not have as harsh highs. Also, I'm looking for slightly more bass in terms of quantity.

I forgot to mention I think the KEF M200s is what you are describing but and there is a BUT involved with these. These do have crazy wide bore nozzle that require some fines to get the earphones in the ear being one of the largest housings for an earphone. Makes them kinda not all that practical for wearing all over the place. Absolutely wonderful sound but ergonomics kinda stinks on them. If you can find a used one they are worth giving a go. That or.

 

I would try out a MA750..Your not gonna care so much that it doesn't have a bigger bass end over the CKN70, again it is comparable,  once you hear how good they sound. A very smile inducing high quality overall sound..The SQ is too good to miss out on imo..


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/1/13 at 4:34pm
post #14931 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

I forgot to mention I think the KEF M200s is what you are describing but and there is a BUT involved with these. These do have crazy wide bore nozzle that require some fines to get the earphones in the ear being one of the largest housings for an earphone. Makes them kinda not all that practical for wearing all over the place. Absolutely wonderful sound but ergonomics kinda stinks on them. If you can find a used one they are worth giving a go. That or.

 

I would try out a MA750..Your not gonna care so much that it doesn't have a bigger bass end over the CKN70, again it is comparable,  once you hear how good they sound. A very smile inducing high quality overall sound..The SQ is too good to miss out on imo..

Thanks. Yeah although the M200's sounded great, the fit issues put me right off and so for that reason I'm not considering them. I think it will be these MA750's. I should probably go for the non mic version and save myself £10. I'm a bit of a bargain hunter that way hehe :D The CKS1000's are still soo tempting though, it's definitely between the MA750 and the CKS1000.


Edited by Gee Simpson - 10/1/13 at 6:41pm
post #14932 of 32858
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Well you want more of a natural sound the CKS1000 are the opposite of that. They are musically colored with a forward sound a bigger bass end to them and a large sound stage presentation yet balanced for a bass phone. Enjoyable they are but natural they aren't. 

 

Now revising the MA750. This is the type of commitment to quality we are talking about here. Check out this plug end.

 

 

Even the tips get a custom stainless steel tip frame to store all your tips in place in the premium case you get..They went all out on these earphones.. I am testing the bass end on these. These earphones have stunning detail in the sound as well as the bass end. The control in the bass region is truly tops. Listening to lil Wayne, Ludacris, Beastie boys. The bass comes out in full force, rumbles hard and tickles my ears..The sound has it all..On less bassy tunes..Drum impact is tight punchy and full bore.Basically if the tune has it. These earphones will display it..What can I say it is an awesome sound.


Edited by Dsnuts - 10/1/13 at 6:27pm
post #14933 of 32858

If you want a for sure upgrade with bass, get the Cardas.  Otherwise, the MA750's wipe the CKN70's also.  

post #14934 of 32858

Yeah, see the CKS1000 is my other option because (I think? correct me if I'm wrong) it's more similar to the CKN70 than the MA750 is but obviously with a bigger and higher end sound.

 

I guess it's whether I still want that fun artificial sound or a more realistic mature sound I guess. The CKS1000 is still tempting with it's bigger bass.

post #14935 of 32858

The Gratitudes are really nice iem's, especially at the price. They are not, however, bass monsters. They don't come close to the AT 1K's. They are a fairly easy and comfortable fit, though, and fun to listen to. I haven't directly compared then to the Tenore's, which I have (one of these days, though no one is actually asking for it...but I don't have the Basso, and most of the reading I've done suggests they sound similar). The Tenores are a good buy as well, IMO, fairly inexpensive, good bass, crazy wide soundstage. At the price, though, the Gratitude seems like the one to me (but, again, not really a basshead iem, even though it's a Monster)

post #14936 of 32858

Y'know, you can get too carried away with this headphone stuff. I recently got a CD to listen to for review (Albare, The Road Ahead-fine jazz guitarist, btw, from Australia), been listening only through headphones to get familiar with it (mostly iem's) for a while, today decided to listen over speakers, in the car...it really had a different sound and effect (liked the album much better through speakers). Time and other circumstances have me mostly listening via headphones, but think I need to dust off the stereo!

post #14937 of 32858
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

If you want a for sure upgrade with bass, get the Cardas.  Otherwise, the MA750's wipe the CKN70's also.  

Unfortunately I'm not willing to spend that much :o I'm not a 100% hardcore Head Fi'er lol :D My self imposed limit for iem's is the price of the CKS1000 so I'm looking for the best iem in that price range.

post #14938 of 32858

So fellas (and ladies if there are any on here), I've spent most of the evening A/Bing and tip rolling the S2, 750i, and DN-1K. I've been listening to all three earphones on the iBasso DK50, which is phenomenal! Definitely a lighter and wider soundstage than the X3 that looks slicker and more high-end (touch screen). I haven't had any UI issues and it performs like a champ with a beautiful sound, but I still love the thick sound of the X3. Both complement each other (as Dsnuts stated - I can't remember if DannyBai has both). Now back to the earphones.

 

First, for the first time ever (and after much tip rolling), I discovered that two of the earphones perform best with their stock tips when using the DX50. Those phones are the 750i and the DN-1K. The DN-1K takes a very wide bore tip (wider than the UE900 and TF10, stopping just short of the M200 in width). the S2 continues to perform well with the UE900 tips for my ears. 

 

Okay, so the S2 sucked big time when I put the DN-1K and 750i tips on it, I heard virtually no bass. But when I threw on the UE900, wow did it sing! The wide soundstage and depth and clarity we come to know with the S2. But when comparing it to the 750i (with stock large silicon tips), the RHA proved to be fuller sounding with deeper bass and a more refined sound. I've been using the UE900 tips on the 750i, but since I've gotten a good 20 hours burn-in them, the bass is a bit too much with the UE900 tips. While not having the same wide soundstage as the S2, the 750i sounds airier, fuller, and more detailed than the S2 with its stock tips. And now we come to the Dunu DN-1000.

 

The sound is quickly developing and telling the story of what it will sound compared to the other IEMs. Before I give my verdict, let me just state something that ClieOS mentioned on the DN-1K thread. He said he got word recently from DUNU that the the DN-1K has been re-tuned for a new international version that's being shipped out. ClieOS stated that he only understood that the newer version suppose to less brighter, and that I probably have the Chinese version if I order from ebay. The news almost pissed me off before hearing my DN-1K, because that sounded like to me that the Dunu would have the irritating high spike that kind of turned me off from the H-200 (although I loved its sound otherwise). So I did buy my earphone from a dealer in China on ebay, but I bought it from the authorized ebay dealer I was directed to from the Dunu website. So I really don't know if this is the original Chinese version or the retuned version (took about two and half weeks to get to me and the tracking number didn't move for a good week and a half, so I'm thinking I might have the newer version). Then again, except for some specs on the side and the words in the front, most of the box is in Chinese. So there's no telling which version I have. 

 

So, now that I got all of that out of the way, I can definitely say the Dunu DK-1K (dynamic driver and dual BA) does not have that awful spike in the high mids/low highs  like the H-200. How else is it different from the H-200? Well it has a much more fuller 3-D sound than the H-200; a better selection - and quality - of tips than the T-Peos; and those interesting sound rings I mentioned in a earlier post so that you can adjust the sound from bass heavy to a more neutral sound. I settled on the blue rings (shy of neutral with nice bass presence but now too over powering, yet you feel the bass is there). The bass doesn't obscure the mids. Another reason I'm thinking that I have newer version is because the highs don't sound too bright to me. I can't stand piercing bright highs, so would know if the highs were like that. The highs here are extended and are there, but just shy of of being too bright for me. Let me go back some. the H-200 has the DN-1k beat, of course, with the different cable options. I have no idea how the new all-silver cable developed by T-Peos affects the sound of the H-200, but I have to imagine it does. Most silver cables I've heard seem to thicken the sound. But buying that cable also pushes the H-200 from a $250 earphone to a $350 earphone (something to be mindful as the DN-1K is only $185). 

Okay, so back to the comparison to the S2 and 750i. Yes, the DK-1K is the clear winner in sound! The sound is spacious in a fuller more forward way than the S2 or 750i (or H-200). It's improving quickly with burn-in. Now, I only wish I could hear the K3003 to see if they sound anything alike. I will probably go to a high-end audio store in the city and take an audition soon. The DK50 and DN-1K really complement each other. I'll probably compare all three with the X3 tomorrow. 

Oh, one other thing, the DK50 makes the Cardas EM8513 a more mid-focused sounding IEM. A highly detailed  spacious mid-focus IEM with the UE900 tips. It's nice to listen to it that way, but I think the more bassy sound that I get out of the earphone with the X3 (still highly detailed with either DAP).  That's it for now. Happy listening.

post #14939 of 32858
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Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post
 

Unfortunately I'm not willing to spend that much :o I'm not a 100% hardcore Head Fi'er lol :D My self imposed limit for iem's is the price of the CKS1000 so I'm looking for the best iem in that price range.

 

Totally understand and unnecessary when there's others that can vouch for the gear and save you some cash and get the best for your dollar.  So…that means the MA750 might be that product.  I think it'll be a sound that will be longer lasting over the 1K's.  It's fun and refined at the same time and agrees with more genres of music.  

post #14940 of 32858

Oh yeah, thanks for those impressions eric.  Didn't need to know the Dunu's are that good.  I gotta hold off.  

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