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Day 2..The highs on these was the one aspect I was somewhat worried about as they do have a bit of a roll off and don't extend as much as the S2 for example but what burn in is doing now is the sounds are tightening up and therefore not only makes for better timbre clarity but also highs while not changed actually seem like they are slightly more forward.. In any case I like the direction of where these are going..Onset of smoothness is also detected..Back to the burner they go.

 

These do sound good. Guys wanting some new stylish earphones that back up the looks with the sound. These are actually doing just that. As good looking as the S2s are in ear these are slick for certain. You know it is nice to get a good looking phone that sounds good..At this point if you guys are OK with bigger drivers in your ears. Don't have issues with buds in your ears. I can tell these are going to be keepers and a welcomed edition to my collection.

 

Go for it. You guys are gonna dig em..These are a better buy over a CKS1000 as these are cheaper for the type of sound it is also going for and have a solid sound that lets you enjoy your tunes. Definitely not analytical but more musical in approach with their forward mids and bass that is actually very good. Highs are in line and do not approach sibilance..These could use a bit more extension and sparkle in the highs but what is there is satisfactory. These will be perfect for your daily commute or being around a bunch of people as isolation is excellent.

 

These seem to be improving every time I hear them. That is definitely good news.

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Go for it. You guys are gonna dig em..These are a better buy over a CKS1000 as these are cheaper for the type of sound it is also going for and have a solid sound that lets you enjoy your tunes. Definitely not analytical but more musical in approach with their forward mids and bass that is actually very good. Highs are in line and do not approach sibilance..These could use a bit more extension and sparkle in the highs but what is there is satisfactory. These will be perfect for your daily commute or being around a bunch of people as isolation is excellent.

 

These seem to be improving every time I hear them. That is definitely good news.

 

Musical is right, I enjoy just how much fun they are to listen to, no analysing, just musical enjoyment(which I rank very highly for on-the-go IEMs) The sparkle will improve after 50-60 hours but it won't hit S2 levels in terms of transparency, but extension will come pretty close. I probably have them at around 200+ hours and they still show me slight changes whenever I put them on. Definitely no slouch in the sub $200 IEM category, and definitely my top 3 of the ones I currently own.

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Day 2..The highs on these was the one aspect I was somewhat worried about as they do have a bit of a roll off and don't extend as much as the S2 for example but what burn in is doing now is the sounds are tightening up and therefore not only makes for better timbre clarity but also highs while not changed actually seem like they are slightly more forward.. In any case I like the direction of where these are going..Onset of smoothness is also detected..Back to the burner they go.

 

These do sound good. Guys wanting some new stylish earphones that back up the looks with the sound. These are actually doing just that. As good looking as the S2s are in ear these are slick for certain. You know it is nice to get a good looking phone that sounds good..At this point if you guys are OK with bigger drivers in your ears. Don't have issues with buds in your ears. I can tell these are going to be keepers and a welcomed edition to my collection.

 

Go for it. You guys are gonna dig em..These are a better buy over a CKS1000 as these are cheaper for the type of sound it is also going for and have a solid sound that lets you enjoy your tunes. Definitely not analytical but more musical in approach with their forward mids and bass that is actually very good. Highs are in line and do not approach sibilance..These could use a bit more extension and sparkle in the highs but what is there is satisfactory. These will be perfect for your daily commute or being around a bunch of people as isolation is excellent.

 

These seem to be improving every time I hear them. That is definitely good news.

 

 

They seem to be coming together well... my optimism regarding them is returning. Build aside, do you think they punch into the same weight class as the S2, or m200?

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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post
 

OK, I guess people give preliminary, subject to change impressions of out of the box new 'phones, (this is another type of discovery). I was out with family tonight, read the recommendations on the way home, figured I'd give a listen to Mog, searched first for Metallica. They must not be allowing their stuff to be licensed, not a single album or song available (I have a cd of theirs somewhere, have to look for it). Since that wasn't available, searched Pantera, as that seemed to be the next group recommended to try, picked Vulgar Display of Power. Listened to about a half hour worth. Someone asked if I had a problem with rough, screamed vocals. The answer is a qualified no. That is, screamed vocals can have tremendous power (did some of that in my younger rock band days, about a century ago). Anyone ever heard Howlin Wolf? Screamin' Jay Hawkins? I do like some melody, though, makes for some contrast. So far, the first half of the album, first listen, isn't a single melody I could pick out.Lyrics were pretty hard to pick out as well, though you feel the anger. There is a sort of relationship to hip hop here (I know I'll get killed for this...), that is, the music lives in the rhythm of the music and the anger of the lyrics, melody is a unnecessary hindrance to all of this, or at least of secondary importance (isn't great how I can generalize after hearing half an album :biggrin:). Where the music has it's hooks and appeal to me (I'd read about this) is the guitar solos. The rhythm section is increadibly grounded, intense, almost metronomic, but the solos soar, levitate, have the same electrical energy but are unmoored from the bar lines. Worth persuing a bit more.

Thanks for the suggestions-I'll try to get to as many as I can. Anyone know of melodic metal (at least, a little melody?)

Pretty much everything I listen to is melodic. Melody is one of my favorite aspects of music, so I like a lot of metal with strings, keyboards, and nice guitars. This is definitely melodic:

 

 

 

Here are some lyrics if you have trouble understanding the vocals:

 

http://www.songlyrics.com/omnium-gatherum/new-dynamic-lyrics/

 

And one of my favorite songs:

 

 

The lyrics are powerful in this one.

 

http://www.songlyrics.com/dreamshade/wants-needs-lyrics/


Edited by 7S Cameron - 9/5/13 at 3:12pm
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It can if you have to wait for customs to clear it, I think DS made mentions of LA taking a long time for things to clear customs. That might be why. Congrats btw. From a "sale"?


Yeah, but of course, from site-that-can't-be-named, replacing my HiSound Anniversary III. Stopped working, sent a few emails to HiSound, had given up on them but finally heard back. they told me to send it back to China (not sure, think this will be the 3rd time I send one back there). Probably do it, but in the past it has taken quite a while to get it back, nice to have the X3 to play with in the meantime.
Edited by doctorjazz - 9/5/13 at 3:38pm
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Just got notice, X3 arrived in California, says should be by the 10th (should it really take 5 days?), can't wait
It can if you have to wait for customs to clear it, I think DS made mentions of LA taking a long time for things to clear customs. That might be why. Congrats btw. From a "sale"? smily_headphones1.gif

I basically "live" in this thread, the Deals thread, and the iem Deals thread, to the dismay of my bank account :o2smile:

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Oh man just got my M200s in and was messin' with it and was ready to toss this stupid piece of sh!T out the window cuz the design was so retarded. Sh!Ts CRAZY MASSIVE so was just trying to cram them into my ears but was having a hard time getting the thing to stay in properly. Was literally like GRRRRRRRRR!!! :angry_face: And rolling my damn eyes on the stupid @ss ear hook/ hanger things cuz i was finally able to make them stay put after i pull my ears down to insert the tips but bending the hooks to wrap over my ears causes them to come loose again.

 

Almost gave up but then i hooked them onto my ears 1st then attempted to insert it and THANK GOD IT FINALLY WORKED!!! I was bending and hooking the ear pieces over my ears while inserting them at the same time hence was finally able to properly angle the nozzles and THANK GOD the stock medium tips fits well, Pheeeeeeeeeeeew. The smaller tip is hella small and the largest one is freaken GIGANTIC. Can't believe these only came with 3 sets of stock tips varying so much in sizes. The 3 sets of stock tips is almost like what JVC provides but these KEFs varies even more so in size.

 

/rant.

 

P.S. Oh sonically these really remind of that Carbon Nanotube iem signature but is more beefed up and on a crazy refined level. Not the most natural/ neutral sounding but is definitely balanced, fast, clean, accurate and engaging with a great low end, forward mids and extended treble. That's my rough initial impressions so far..... :popcorn:

 

P.P.S. Oh man these mofos are hard to drive, takes even mo' juice to power up than the FXZ200s. Had to max out on my 5th gen ipod classic but good thing it is properly driven at that volume.


Edited by sfwalcer - 9/5/13 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by 7S Cameron View Post
 
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Originally Posted by doctorjazz View Post
 

OK, I guess people give preliminary, subject to change impressions of out of the box new 'phones, (this is another type of discovery). I was out with family tonight, read the recommendations on the way home, figured I'd give a listen to Mog, searched first for Metallica. They must not be allowing their stuff to be licensed, not a single album or song available (I have a cd of theirs somewhere, have to look for it). Since that wasn't available, searched Pantera, as that seemed to be the next group recommended to try, picked Vulgar Display of Power. Listened to about a half hour worth. Someone asked if I had a problem with rough, screamed vocals. The answer is a qualified no. That is, screamed vocals can have tremendous power (did some of that in my younger rock band days, about a century ago). Anyone ever heard Howlin Wolf? Screamin' Jay Hawkins? I do like some melody, though, makes for some contrast. So far, the first half of the album, first listen, isn't a single melody I could pick out.Lyrics were pretty hard to pick out as well, though you feel the anger. There is a sort of relationship to hip hop here (I know I'll get killed for this...), that is, the music lives in the rhythm of the music and the anger of the lyrics, melody is a unnecessary hindrance to all of this, or at least of secondary importance (isn't great how I can generalize after hearing half an album :biggrin:). Where the music has it's hooks and appeal to me (I'd read about this) is the guitar solos. The rhythm section is increadibly grounded, intense, almost metronomic, but the solos soar, levitate, have the same electrical energy but are unmoored from the bar lines. Worth persuing a bit more.

Thanks for the suggestions-I'll try to get to as many as I can. Anyone know of melodic metal (at least, a little melody?)

Pretty much everything I listen to is melodic. Melody is one of my favorite aspects of music, so I like a lot of metal with strings, keyboards, and nice guitars. This is definitely melodic:

 

 

 

Here are some lyrics if you have trouble understanding the vocals:

 

http://www.songlyrics.com/omnium-gatherum/new-dynamic-lyrics/

 

And one of my favorite songs:

 

 

The lyrics are powerful in this one.

 

http://www.songlyrics.com/dreamshade/wants-needs-lyrics/

Thanks for these posts, just listened to both with my Sony XBA3's (threw that in to make it more headphone related), then again over the computer speakers with my 15 year old daughter, actually did enjoy listening to them, but...

I agree these are more melodic, really dug the guitar lines. They love intricate, interwoven guitar lines, and they are a great hook. The vocals, though...these have to be electronically processed. You occasionally hear the processing lessen (especially on the second track), and, sure enough, there is some singing happening, a voice and melody peek through (some background vocals also come with some melody/harmony). But, while the processing is on, the screamed vocal pretty much never has a pitch, and moves a bit, but doesn't hit notes, much less melody. Have to say, I don't get that part, the vocals. Having said that, the rhythm, intensity, guitar lines are great (the linked lyrics helped, would never have been able to pick them out). My daughter, the Skillet fan, pretty much agreed (Skillet uses the screaming and processing sometimes, but more as an effect or flavoring than the whole ball of wax). The lyric of the second was interesting...I could picture Skillet singing something similar, but, as a Christian band, Skillet knows the answer while Dreamshade seems to be pondering the mystery of it (amazes me that my daughter, a good Jewish girl from New Jersey, has a thing for Chirstian rock, but then again, I love Black Gospel without being a believer as well). Anyway, I'll look into more of this, it's been fun, thanks for the links.


Edited by doctorjazz - 9/5/13 at 5:09pm
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Originally Posted by dnullify View Post
 

 

 

They seem to be coming together well... my optimism regarding them is returning. Build aside, do you think they punch into the same weight class as the S2, or m200?

 

I think it will actually be a matter of taste of what type of sound you like that will determine what is better for your ears.. More accurate sounding phones don't necessarily mean more enjoyment. To me the best phone I have heard this year was the M200..I only wish I didn't have any fit issues but then it was easy for me to return the M200 because my S2 is an over performer.. I think guys that want that accuracy with a complete sound the S2s have been an absolute marvel and without a doubt one of the best this year.

 

I have been so used to earphones with coloration on them be it Bassos or CKS1000s it was very refreshing to get a neutral phone in the S2 that hit every note and extension from the clearest bell notes to the lowest of sub bass with effortless presentation and scales to the degree it does with more powerful sources.

 

Guys that don't own power brick Daps or more powerful sources will actually like the Onkyos, CKS1000, Bassos, more so because these give the illusion of a grand sound with their large stages deep sound and full bodied low hitting bass with no need for any real power to drive them.. Because if you guys think about it why do we use amps and such anyway.. So we can get a larger stage, deeper sound and full bodied low end. More of what we like in our music..

 

Do I think the Onkyos are up there.. Ya I think so but for guys that want and live for a full bodied sound that want to enjoy their music and not so much for guys wanting a more technical one. Music enjoyment can be had with either one. You like the thick steak or the lobster tail.? It will be a matter of preference. I am easy. I have both on my plate.

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Yay just got the Onkyos.... will post more detailed impressions later when i get them more burned in, but personally I don't find them to terrible out of the box, though I don't have anything really compare with haha. The sound is really oddly open for an iem.... when one of the songs came up I removed the earphone and put it back in just to make sure it was from the earphone xD. 

 

PS for any onkyo owners out there, what tips are you guys using? I'm just using some random gr02 silicone tips I had lying around  and they seem to have a noticeable improvement in sound quality. Might want to get different tips for these later down the line.


Edited by Darknet - 9/5/13 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by DannyBai View Post
 

So I received this cable from an eBay seller:  

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Male-to-Male-HiFi-Stereo-Audio-Headphone-Extension-Cable-AUX-/111149432236?

 

 

From a PM I was sending to a few head-fiers:

 

Testing the two cables again.  Difference between the two aren't huge actually but the Zu cable gives more heft to the voice for sure and added bass which must affect the heft to the voice.  The eBay cable does add a touch of treble which sounds good with Sade.  Also that added treble adds to the space but it doesn't really make it sound bigger than the Zu.  Both very good cable but I think folks will appreciate that this is cheap and can be readily available.  I'll post this on the thread.

 

So this cable so far calms the bass some, which might be good for some people.  I actually like the bass more with the eBay cable since it has better control.  Airier vocals which I also prefer.  Can't really say which is better since both make the X1 sound really nice but for $20 it's hard to beat.  This is the 2 core cable, I assume the other cables that go for $40 and has 4 cores might even be better yet, who knows.  Might be worth a shot for whomever is interested.  Build is very good, more flexible and thinner than the Zu but obviously the Zu has the better build and aesthetics.  

 

 

 

 

 


Hey, anyone here speak german? I found this cable on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/High-End-3-5mm-Klinke-Kabel-3-5mm-auf-3-5mm-Klinke-vergoldet-1-8m-Q563A-/170923785534?pt=MP3_Player_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item27cbd9fd3e

I'd love to know what the description says. I may buy it to try out on my X1's but not for another month or two. Just started back school (Masters) and I'm finding it very hard to find time even to keep up with this thread
 

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Edited by fnkcow - 9/5/13 at 8:10pm
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Oh man just got my M200s in and was messin' with it and was ready to toss this stupid piece of sh!T out the window cuz the design was so retarded. Sh!Ts CRAZY MASSIVE so was just trying to cram them into my ears but was having a hard time getting the thing to stay in properly. Was literally like GRRRRRRRRR!!! :angry_face: And rolling my damn eyes on the stupid @ss ear hook/ hanger things cuz i was finally able to make them stay put after i pull my ears down to insert the tips but bending the hooks to wrap over my ears causes them to come loose again.

 

Almost gave up but then i hooked them onto my ears 1st then attempted to insert it and THANK GOD IT FINALLY WORKED!!! I was bending and hooking the ear pieces over my ears while inserting them at the same time hence was finally able to properly angle the nozzles and THANK GOD the stock medium tips fits well, Pheeeeeeeeeeeew. The smaller tip is hella small and the largest one is freaken GIGANTIC. Can't believe these only came with 3 sets of stock tips varying so much in sizes. The 3 sets of stock tips is almost like what JVC provides but these KEFs varies even more so in size.

 

/rant.

 

P.S. Oh sonically these really remind of that Carbon Nanotube iem signature but is more beefed up and on a crazy refined level. Not the most natural/ neutral sounding but is definitely balanced, fast, clean, accurate and engaging with a great low end, forward mids and extended treble. That's my rough initial impressions so far..... :popcorn:

 

P.P.S. Oh man these mofos are hard to drive, takes even mo' juice to power up than the FXZ200s. Had to max out on my 5th gen ipod classic but good thing it is properly driven at that volume.

 

Makes you wonder if they really showed how to wear them correctly  :tongue:

 

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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post
 

Almost gave up but then i hooked them onto my ears 1st then attempted to insert it and THANK GOD IT FINALLY WORKED!!! I was bending and hooking the ear pieces over my ears while inserting them at the same time hence was finally able to properly angle the nozzles and THANK GOD the stock medium tips fits well, Pheeeeeeeeeeeew. The smaller tip is hella small and the largest one is freaken GIGANTIC. Can't believe these only came with 3 sets of stock tips varying so much in sizes. The 3 sets of stock tips is almost like what JVC provides but these KEFs varies even more so in size.

Agree on the limited 3 set. Varied too much in size in between, should have offered 5 sizes instead.

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Makes you wonder if they really showed how to wear them correctly  :tongue:

 

^ Pisssssh who need dem fancy vid tutorials. :o

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