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post #13831 of 32865
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Ya how much of a coincidence is that. Both phones are identical but the Munitos come with case. A micd cable and what looks like a single chord instead of being double ended like the Onkyos but tell me these 2 aren't identical. Those poor fools be buying overpriced munitos. Can get the Onkyos for half price. 

 

Now I am suspecting AT even more so. Lol. They made their PRO700 Dj cans into the Denon HP1000 and Allen and heath Xone XD53 DJ cans.

 

AT you funny guys. WS77s using titanium coating and a new shell anyone?


Edited by Dsnuts - 9/4/13 at 9:46pm
post #13832 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Ya how much of a coincidence is that. Both phones are identical but the Munitos come with case. A micd cable and what looks like a single chord instead of being double ended like the Onkyos but tell me these 2 aren't identical. Those poor fools be buying overpriced munitos. Can get the Onkyos for half price. 

Now I am suspecting AT even more so. Lol. They made their PRO700 Dj cans into the Denon HP1000 and Allen and heath Xone XD53 DJ cans.

AT you funny guys. WS77s using titanium coating and a new shell anyone?

Pretty much. Munitio are pretty notorious for making overpriced stuff with a few gimmicks. Take the "nines" for example, terrible mids, bloated bass, but they're $169. Meh, I prefer the Onkyo's sharper design anyways.

That's an interesting idea. I have a friend who owns the WS77s, maybe I can find someone who has the PRO700 to see if they really sound alike.
Edited by Exesteils - 9/4/13 at 10:06pm
post #13833 of 32865

^ i know i thought that Munitio was some cheapo Chinese OEM re-brand or something cuz it sure looks cheap as hell. Looks kinda like the $20 JVC S400s, correction the S400s looks better. :tongue_smile:

post #13834 of 32865

So I received this cable from an eBay seller:  

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-5mm-Male-to-Male-HiFi-Stereo-Audio-Headphone-Extension-Cable-AUX-/111149432236?

 

 

From a PM I was sending to a few head-fiers:

 

Testing the two cables again.  Difference between the two aren't huge actually but the Zu cable gives more heft to the voice for sure and added bass which must affect the heft to the voice.  The eBay cable does add a touch of treble which sounds good with Sade.  Also that added treble adds to the space but it doesn't really make it sound bigger than the Zu.  Both very good cable but I think folks will appreciate that this is cheap and can be readily available.  I'll post this on the thread.

 

So this cable so far calms the bass some, which might be good for some people.  I actually like the bass more with the eBay cable since it has better control.  Airier vocals which I also prefer.  Can't really say which is better since both make the X1 sound really nice but for $20 it's hard to beat.  This is the 2 core cable, I assume the other cables that go for $40 and has 4 cores might even be better yet, who knows.  Might be worth a shot for whomever is interested.  Build is very good, more flexible and thinner than the Zu but obviously the Zu has the better build and aesthetics.  

 

 

 

 

 

post #13835 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post
 

Ya how much of a coincidence is that. Both phones are identical but the Munitos come with case. A micd cable and what looks like a single chord instead of being double ended like the Onkyos but tell me these 2 aren't identical. Those poor fools be buying overpriced munitos. Can get the Onkyos for half price. 

 

Now I am suspecting AT even more so. Lol. They made their PRO700 Dj cans into the Denon HP1000 and Allen and heath Xone XD53 DJ cans.

 

AT you funny guys. WS77s using titanium coating and a new shell anyone?

so you suspect that AT is behind Onkyo's latest? 

 

That would be interesting. I'm actually hoping so, because that would imply the onkyos would become spectacular with burn-in

post #13836 of 32865
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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post


Pretty much. Munitio are pretty notorious for making overpriced stuff with a few gimmicks. Take the "nines" for example, terrible mids, bloated bass, but they're $169. Meh, I prefer the Onkyo's sharper design anyways.

That's an interesting idea. I have a friend who owns the WS77s, maybe I can find someone who has the PRO700 to see if they really sound alike.

Well the PRO700s and not the MK2s are older AT DJ cans and actually have nothing to do with WS77 but it kinda makes sense to me that if AT is making these phones for these companies they are using their air chamber tech used in the WS headphones. That is a dead giveaway. No one else in the industry used air chambers last time I checked. And then the WS77 so happens to use 40mm drivers but the real difference is that both the Munitos and the Onkyos use titanium coated drivers which should give better detail and clarity to the sounds also using a premium detachable cable.

 

I think the Onkyos are reasonably priced but the Munitos not so much.

 

  • Large driver design (40 mm) reproduces outstanding sound
  • Undesired vibrations are eliminated by direct-mounting the high-rigidity aluminum housing to the driver
  • Acoustically sealed earpads minimize bass sound leakage

 

This description sound familiar on the other 2 phones.


Edited by Dsnuts - 9/4/13 at 10:24pm
post #13837 of 32865
That does sound pretty identical. Aluminum housing, 40mm drivers etc etc.

That being said, the Onkyos(and any alternatives) with it's titanium coating should be stiffer, requiring more burn-in to get them to full potential, but also be able to produce micro-details with much better accuracy than it's spiritual predecessor. Now I'm really hyped about trying these... So much to try, so little ti.... Money.
post #13838 of 32865

I have the opportunity to get the Bose MIE2i for $40.  Is it worth it?  Any impressions?

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OK, I guess people give preliminary, subject to change impressions of out of the box new 'phones, (this is another type of discovery). I was out with family tonight, read the recommendations on the way home, figured I'd give a listen to Mog, searched first for Metallica. They must not be allowing their stuff to be licensed, not a single album or song available (I have a cd of theirs somewhere, have to look for it). Since that wasn't available, searched Pantera, as that seemed to be the next group recommended to try, picked Vulgar Display of Power. Listened to about a half hour worth. Someone asked if I had a problem with rough, screamed vocals. The answer is a qualified no. That is, screamed vocals can have tremendous power (did some of that in my younger rock band days, about a century ago). Anyone ever heard Howlin Wolf? Screamin' Jay Hawkins? I do like some melody, though, makes for some contrast. So far, the first half of the album, first listen, isn't a single melody I could pick out.Lyrics were pretty hard to pick out as well, though you feel the anger. There is a sort of relationship to hip hop here (I know I'll get killed for this...), that is, the music lives in the rhythm of the music and the anger of the lyrics, melody is a unnecessary hindrance to all of this, or at least of secondary importance (isn't great how I can generalize after hearing half an album :biggrin:). Where the music has it's hooks and appeal to me (I'd read about this) is the guitar solos. The rhythm section is increadibly grounded, intense, almost metronomic, but the solos soar, levitate, have the same electrical energy but are unmoored from the bar lines. Worth persuing a bit more.

Thanks for the suggestions-I'll try to get to as many as I can. Anyone know of melodic metal (at least, a little melody?)

 

Sorry If I pointed you to the wrong path. There are two major branches of metal that originated in the West Coast. Glam Metal and Thrash Metal; most of the modern metal acts were influenced by bands from them. If melodic metal is what you're after, you'll have to follow the Glam Metal and its progression through the years. Thrash/Heavy Metal bands that tried to be melodic failed miserably because they just don't work that well unless they evolve into Progressive Metal like Dream Theater, NuMetal like LinkinPark or Speed Metal like DragonForce. Metallica's Black Album is the closest you can get to Melodic Metal that sounded really good.

 

So here are my suggestions:

Guns N Roses

Van Halen

AC/DC

Def Leppard - first three albums

Motley Crue

Poison

Skid Row

Warrant

Extreme

Firehouse

Winger

Trixter

Damn Yankees

Twisted Sister

Quiet Riot

Cinderella

 

They all have Greatest Hits albums so it won't be hard for you to find really good songs from them.


Edited by d marc0 - 9/5/13 at 6:59am
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AWE SH--!!! HEAR (pun intended)  WE GO AGAIN!! I hate this hobby!!

 

 

http://presscentre.sony.eu/content/detail.aspx?ReleaseID=8813&NewsAreaId=2

 

Oh man! They have new headphones too!

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57601378-233/sony-unveils-next-generation-premium-headphones/

post #13841 of 32865

For anyone interested, this is a good comparison of portable headphones:

 

http://www.head-fi.org/t/672743/comparisons-psb-m4u2-momentum-mdr-1r-qc15-beats-executive-dt1350-ue9000-beats-studio-2013-kef-m500-and-skullcandy-aviators

 

Sadly I personally haven't heard any of them except the M500's. Happily though I am hearing the M500's :smile:

post #13842 of 32865
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For anyone interested, this is a good comparison of portable headphones:



http://www.head-fi.org/t/672743/comparisons-psb-m4u2-momentum-mdr-1r-qc15-beats-executive-dt1350-ue9000-beats-studio-2013-kef-m500-and-skullcandy-aviators



Sadly I personally haven't heard any of them except the M500's. Happily though I am hearing the M500's smile.gif


 

We all knew you would cave eventually wink.gif
post #13843 of 32865

Just got notice, X3 arrived in California, says should be by the 10th (should it really take 5 days?), can't wait

post #13844 of 32865
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Just got notice, X3 arrived in California, says should be by the 10th (should it really take 5 days?), can't wait

I love my X3, I can understand that you want yours as soon as possible. I also hate waiting (for the moment for the Graditudes).
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Just got notice, X3 arrived in California, says should be by the 10th (should it really take 5 days?), can't wait
It can if you have to wait for customs to clear it, I think DS made mentions of LA taking a long time for things to clear customs. That might be why. Congrats btw. From a "sale"? smily_headphones1.gif
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