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There you go....now I know I am not the last man on earth ...thanks beerchug.gif

post #13367 of 32903

Just got the Sony MDR-XB600.  Ordered it because it won the Silver award for less than 10,000 yen:

 

http://www.visualgrandprix.com/vgp2013/vgp_p2_12.html

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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Just got the Sony MDR-XB600.  Ordered it because it won the Silver award for less than 10,000 yen:

http://www.visualgrandprix.com/vgp2013/vgp_p2_12.html

I saw a guy wearing those on the train the other day and they look like a million bucks, gorgeous, classy design.
post #13369 of 32903

I just noticed that for the Geek DAC they removed the other pledge options between 159$ and 1000$ and also removed the limit on 159$, so maybe they are thinking of lowering the final price. At least the guys who were thinking to bite on 159$ have more time now.

post #13370 of 32903
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Just got the Sony MDR-XB600.  Ordered it because it won the Silver award for less than 10,000 yen:

 

http://www.visualgrandprix.com/vgp2013/vgp_p2_12.html

Not good out of the box.  Muddy bass, sounds veiled, even compared to my Monoprice 8323.  S500s are better, and the Carbo Tenore and Basso are much, much better.  I must say that comfort-wise, they are SUPER comfortable, like wearing pillows on my ears.

 

I'm going to burn them in to see if they get better.

 

I'm beginning to wonder about visualgrandprix.  They don't even have the Zero Audios winning bronze. 

 

Has anyone heard the CKM300 (Gold), MDR-XB30EX (Silver), or MX375 (Bronze)?  Are they better than the Zero Audios?


Edited by Grayson73 - 8/23/13 at 7:36pm
post #13371 of 32903
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Originally Posted by Grayson73 View Post

Not good out of the box.  Muddy bass, sounds veiled, even compared to my Monoprice 8323.  S500s are better, and the Carbo Tenore and Basso are much, much better.  I must say that comfort-wise, they are SUPER comfortable, like wearing pillows on my ears.

 

Iem's like the Basso's and VSD1's are trouble makers, that's for sure. 

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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post

Iem's like the Basso's and VSD1's are trouble makers, that's for sure. 

Budget IEMs meant to punch above their own "supposed" price point to beat the competition. Sounds like a pretty good idea to me! For the consumers, that is. wink.gif
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Thread Starter 

So I have my NE-700M in my ears using my X3 as a source..My pair has been on tour of sorts since I opened the thread on them a few weeks back. This thing sounds absolutely marvelous out of the X3.

 

I got them Brainwaves M5 as a pack in with the player and I mentioned they kinda remind me of these NE-700Ms. Actually these sound on a complete different level from them. It seems to me these NE-700s are what Brainwaves was trying to do with the M5 but failed kinda short..It has been a while since I heard my NE-700s and I was actually surprised how great they sounds on the player. The synergy using the X3 is on point.The strong bass end on these might not be for everyone but what really surprises me about the NE-700s are how good the highs and especially the mids are on these. Vocals be it male or female are up front and intimate, instrument separation, precision spacious presentation. Sparkle when called for. I have a new found respect for these redone nuforce iems. Lol. I am loving how this sounds out of the player.

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Glad you're enjoying them with the X3 too. I've heard some saying that the X3 is warm-ish, but I don't think I've seen anyone who flat-out dislikes it. Guess Fiio is off to a good start in the DAP market.
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Thread Starter 

When guys describe sound as being warm. Some might think not as clear or cool sounding..People might equate neutral with a more cooler tone over a warm one with more coloration. The X3 might not be a completely neutral sounding source but to me I would rather take a bit of warmth and smoothness to my sources over a completely analytical and edgy sounding one especially one where I will be using as a Dap. This sound can be enjoyed the whole day without fatigue that is more important than you would think on a good dap. Guys buy expensive tube amps to add warmth to their neutral flat sources and then buy even more tubes to add some coloration and variation to that sound for reason.

 

Choosing the right components and making them all mesh together to eventually engineer one of these Daps has to be a daunting task..Sure the player got some UI quirks and so many guys are OCD when it comes to how they want their music library set up. But to me what I really cared about was how good the player will sound with my music I listen to every day. I think Fiio did a great job in that front..Before I got the X3s my Sony Z1060 was the best sounding Dap I have ever used and that player cost me almost double the X3 does when that came out. I would be telling you guys a lie if I said that sounds better to my ears.

 

The X3 is superior to one of the best sounding Sony players I have ever heard. I was expecting a side grade but got much more. Guys that enjoy their mids I can honestly say will love the X3. Guys that love a full bass end to their daps will also enjoy the X3..This player has some of the strongest well rounded deep reaching bass end out of any Dap I have heard as well..Maybe that is why I like the player much. On the go my bass is important. Then again maybe that is another reason why some "audiophiles" will not like the X3.

 

With more firmware upgrades I am sure the player will get better and better. I can tell Mr James Fiio really wants to create the best player for the given resources he has. I have never seen the head guy be so active in trying to help and answer everyone's problems and issues.

 

I know reading the X3 thread might turn off would be buyers and such but instead of complaining I am enjoying which so many of them guys on that thread should start doing.


Edited by Dsnuts - 8/23/13 at 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

When guys describe sound as being warm. Some might think not as clear or cool sounding..People might equate neutral with a more cooler tone over a warm one with more coloration. The X3 might not be a completely neutral sounding source but to me I would rather take a bit of warmth and smoothness to my sources over a completely analytical and edgy sounding one especially one where I will be using as a Dap. This sound can be enjoyed the whole day without fatigue that is more important than you would think on a good dap. Guys buy expensive tube amps to add warmth to their neutral flat sources and then buy even more tubes to add some coloration and variation to that sound for reason.

 

Choosing the right components and making them all mesh together to eventually engineer one of these Daps has to be a daunting task..Sure the player got some UI quirks and so many guys are OCD when it comes to how they want their music library set up. But to me what I really cared about was how good the player will sound with my music I listen to every day. I think Fiio did a great job in that front..Before I got the X3s my Sony Z1060 was the best sounding Dap I have ever used and that player cost me almost double the X3 does when that came out. I would be telling you guys a lie if I said that sounds better to my ears.

 

The X3 is superior to one of the best sounding Sony players I have ever heard. I was expecting a side grade but got much more. Guys that enjoy their mids I can honestly say will love the X3. Guys that love a full bass end to their daps will also enjoy the X3..This player has some of the strongest well rounded deep reaching bass end out of any Dap I have heard as well..Maybe that is why I like the player much. On the go my bass is important. Then again maybe that is another reason why some "audiophiles" will not like the X3.

 

With more firmware upgrades I am sure the player will get better and better. I can tell Mr James Fiio really wants to create the best player for the given resources he has. I have never seen the head guy be so active in trying to help and answer everyone's problems and issues.

 

I know reading the X3 thread might turn off would be buyers and such but instead of complaining I am enjoying which so many of them guys on that thread should start doing.

Is it true that music won't show up when using too many subfolders on a 64GB SD card?

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

When guys describe sound as being warm. Some might think not as clear or cool sounding..People might equate neutral with a more cooler tone over a warm one with more coloration. The X3 might not be a completely neutral sounding source but to me I would rather take a bit of warmth and smoothness to my sources over a completely analytical and edgy sounding one especially one where I will be using as a Dap. This sound can be enjoyed the whole day without fatigue that is more important than you would think on a good dap. Guys buy expensive tube amps to add warmth to their neutral flat sources and then buy even more tubes to add some coloration and variation to that sound for reason.

 

Choosing the right components and making them all mesh together to eventually engineer one of these Daps has to be a daunting task..Sure the player got some UI quirks and so many guys are OCD when it comes to how they want their music library set up. But to me what I really cared about was how good the player will sound with my music I listen to every day. I think Fiio did a great job in that front..Before I got the X3s my Sony Z1060 was the best sounding Dap I have ever used and that player cost me almost double the X3 does when that came out. I would be telling you guys a lie if I said that sounds better to my ears.

 

The X3 is superior to one of the best sounding Sony players I have ever heard. I was expecting a side grade but got much more. Guys that enjoy their mids I can honestly say will love the X3. Guys that love a full bass end to their daps will also enjoy the X3..This player has some of the strongest well rounded deep reaching bass end out of any Dap I have heard as well..Maybe that is why I like the player much. On the go my bass is important. Then again maybe that is another reason why some "audiophiles" will not like the X3.

 

With more firmware upgrades I am sure the player will get better and better. I can tell Mr James Fiio really wants to create the best player for the given resources he has. I have never seen the head guy be so active in trying to help and answer everyone's problems and issues.

 

I know reading the X3 thread might turn off would be buyers and such but instead of complaining I am enjoying which so many of them guys on that thread should start doing.

 

I'd like to quote 100% of Dsnuts comment as I fully agree on every single word mentioned above. Sometimes I'm struggling a bit to find my songs / albums on the X3, but when I get there and press play... I just get carried away by this amazing sound. 

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I'd like to quote 100% of Dsnuts comment as I fully agree on every single word mentioned above. Sometimes I'm struggling a bit to find my songs / albums on the X3, but when I get there and press play... I just get carried away by this amazing sound. 

That's great feedback. I've tested the X3 on several occasions and was really impressed. Only thing holding me back is the fact that most of my library(<95%) is in ALAC. I'm currently in the process of converting them all into FLAC(again). I'm either looking at either the X3 or the X5, depending on the sound quality and UI. Hopefully my portable source gear will be done by the end of this year and I can focus on something else, like Fitears. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by MichStrausse View Post

X3 beating Sony Z? confused_face_2.gif Are you sure?

 

If it's the EU version of the Z, then yeah, I can see that happening.

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Yeah, but I would like to know about the Japanese version of the Z. Very hard to believe it can be beaten that easily.

Well, the Z might be a DAP but given it's geared more towards flexibitly it's not really that hard to imagine it being beaten on pure SQ terms when compared to something like the X3, which only has sound as it's objective.
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