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Not sure if you dudes are into ambient stuff but I can't stop listening to this album.  

 

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Never tried Ambient but I'm down for anything. Will try them out when I get home. Us chatting also reminds me I need to book lodgings for my Japan trip near November.
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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post

Never tried Ambient but I'm down for anything. Will try them out when I get home. Us chatting also reminds me I need to book lodgings for my Japan trip near November.

I think we're the only ones awake, lol.  In this thread anyway.  That reminds me I gotta wake up early tomorrow and it's 2:30 am here.  Work to live and live to work.  Blah.  

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I don't own the M200, so eric or Danny might give you a better idea of what they sound like.

But from the short period I had with them(with me literally pushing my fingers against them to keep them in, I have small ear canals) they are very technical, clean, with every part of the spectrum well represented with a overall "complete" feel to it, very impressive. They present Vivaldi's Four Season "Spring" with plenty of energy, strings and timbre were amazingly detailed. Bass extends deep, but without the excess rumble you sometimes get with Dynamics. If it weren't for my fit issues, I'd have gotten them instead of the M500.

The Onkyos on the other hand, is fun. No other way around it, anyone who owns the S2 will agree, they just make you enjoy the music, instead of just reproducing everything down to a T. The HF300 doesn't have the most neutral sound, it's bass is slightly boosted, the mids are forward-ish and vocals come through with plenty of weight, Ie, I can hear fine the vocals of The Drugs - Kids of 88 on the Onkyo, but they are slightly recessed with the KEFs, partly due to the mastering on the track. Again, taste in music is subjective, what kind of music you like also plays a big part in the choice.

Wow concise comparison there Exesteils, really appreciate it :)
I too had the S2's - had to sell them, the fit was never great with me, there was always a harsh treble presence to me. But I loved pretty much every aspect of it aside from that added treble harshness

Would Onkyo's make a good replacement?

M200's sound really appealing but since I use IEM's everyday I don't want the hassle of fiddling with a bad fit. I really just want to pop them in and enjoy. :\ Tough choices...

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Well I gave it the old college try and for the most part the KEF M200s are absolutely stunning in more ways than one. I have decided to return these. It kinda pains me because I like how they sound. I found out that my FXD tips give and unnatural curve to the sound. The mids are more pushed back in the mix which is not what I want. The FXD tips are not perfect fit for me either but ended up being better than anything else I tried. I have more than your average set of tips and none of them work except the FXDs and Complys set backward.

 

After using my comfortable S2s all day and then trying again to get these to fit right in my ears. I give up. It is shocking to me that these earphones in all indications are top notch in sound design and are excellent in all aspects except for the one aspect that is truly important.

 

Fit. Guys that use medium sized tips will have better luck with these earphones. I mentioned last night the S2s actually hang in there against these and they do. My S2s is also another reason why I am going to return these. I don't necessarily feel the KEF M200s are leaps above in SQ over my S2. Using my X3 with these 2. Both sound excellent and I will not miss having the M200s. The M200s has an excellent sense of space detail and stage that seem to hit all the marks that are required for and excellent hearing session. But not when I am fidgeting with the tips 90% of the time. I don't care how good the sound is if trying over 20 different type of tips don't work it is time to give up..I do think KEF has these tuned exquisitely and masterfully but it is too bad they have a serious flaw in the design..

 

So I have to return these. A first for me to return an earphone.. Because of fit.

 

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Wow concise comparison there Exesteils, really appreciate it :)
I too had the S2's - had to sell them, the fit was never great with me, there was always a harsh treble presence to me. But I loved pretty much every aspect of it aside from that added treble harshness

Would Onkyo's make a good replacement?

M200's sound really appealing but since I use IEM's everyday I don't want the hassle of fiddling with a bad fit. I really just want to pop them in and enjoy. :\ Tough choices...

I understand that small ear canals might have a problem with IEMs as some of the drivers are too big, but the M200's fit is bad for those with large ear canals? Are the large tips still too loose or something?

It would be such a pain to keep readjusting the fit


Edited by fnkcow - 8/12/13 at 5:26am
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Thread Starter 

It is just my left side. My left ear canal seem to be in a different shape than my right. It keeps on poping out no matter what.The problem is my canal is somewhat V shape from out to in. The KEF M200 tips are kinda square shape. Square don't fit the V shape so I am unlucky.  I have no issues if there is a housing involved in the fit but the issue here is, there is nothing holding in the tip into my ears beside the tip itself. The hook doesn't hold the earphones into the ear they just hold the entire package so the giant sized earphone don't fall out.. The sound is awesome because of the large housing but also suffers from it if you have any variation inside your ear canals. If both of your ear canals are the same exact shape you will have better luck with the fit.

 

I was reading on the KEF thread and there was another member that has the exact same issue I ran into. I would love nothing more than to keep these but not if they can't fit.. I have an otterbox filled with tips and none of them work for me. Time to return..

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

It is just my left side. My left ear canal seem to be in a different shape than my right. It keeps on poping out no matter what.The problem is my canal is somewhat V shape from out to in. The KEF M200 tips are kinda square shape. Square don't fit the V shape so I am unlucky.  I have no issues if there is a housing involved in the fit but the issue here is, there is nothing holding in the tip into my ears beside the tip itself. The hook doesn't hold the earphones into the ear they just hold the entire package so the giant sized earphone don't fall out.. The sound is awesome because of the large housing but also suffers from it if you have any variation inside your ear canals. If both of your ear canals are the same exact shape you will have better luck with the fit.

 

I was reading on the KEF thread and there was another member that has the exact same issue I ran into. I would love nothing more than to keep these but not if they can't fit.. I have an otterbox filled with tips and none of them work for me. Time to return..

I've read that the Auvio tips can fit on them, do they not work?

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Thread Starter 

They do fit but does the same thing where they just pop out small to large. The reason why the FXD tips works is because they are more like earbuds in size. I had to use the large tips which is more like XL in size but they ended up not giving the full sound I wanted.. I can hear how good they are by holding them into my ear with the stock tips..What a shame.  I will have no issues with the Onkyos at all because I can fit the entire housing into my ears much like AT iems. Now that I have to return these I will get them Onkyos when they come out.

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Originally Posted by fnkcow View Post

 

I understand that small ear canals might have a problem with IEMs as some of the drivers are too big, but the M200's fit is bad for those with large ear canals? Are the large tips still too loose or something?

It would be such a pain to keep readjusting the fit

 

The large tips aren't too loose for me, and I have large canals.

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Originally Posted by nehcrow View Post

Wow concise comparison there Exesteils, really appreciate it smily_headphones1.gif

I too had the S2's - had to sell them, the fit was never great with me, there was always a harsh treble presence to me. But I loved pretty much every aspect of it aside from that added treble harshness
Would Onkyo's make a good replacement?
M200's sound really appealing but since I use IEM's everyday I don't want the hassle of fiddling with a bad fit. I really just want to pop them in and enjoy. :\ Tough choices...

The S2 are really good. But if you're having problems with them then the M200 might be a gamble. I have both S2 and HF300, but I already promised the S2 to a fellow Head-fier here. Both do certain things right and are fun in their own right, but I just find the extra bass omph and forward mids more my thing. If you liked the S2, the Onkyos will not disappoint.
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The build quality and general appearance of the Onkyos look amazing. I definitely think they'd be an improvement to my Carbo Basso.

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

It is just my left side. My left ear canal seem to be in a different shape than my right. It keeps on poping out no matter what.The problem is my canal is somewhat V shape from out to in. The KEF M200 tips are kinda square shape. Square don't fit the V shape so I am unlucky.  I have no issues if there is a housing involved in the fit but the issue here is, there is nothing holding in the tip into my ears beside the tip itself. The hook doesn't hold the earphones into the ear they just hold the entire package so the giant sized earphone don't fall out.. The sound is awesome because of the large housing but also suffers from it if you have any variation inside your ear canals. If both of your ear canals are the same exact shape you will have better luck with the fit.

 

I was reading on the KEF thread and there was another member that has the exact same issue I ran into. I would love nothing more than to keep these but not if they can't fit.. I have an otterbox filled with tips and none of them work for me. Time to return..

 

Hmm sounds like they would fit me perfectly then. I hate V-shaped tips and can only use more square tips. Isn't it wonderful how different people's ears are :D
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The build quality and general appearance of the Onkyos look amazing. I definitely think they'd be an improvement to my Carbo Basso.

I'm also keeping tabs on them. I'm waiting to see if they're better or as good as the CKS1000 before making a decision, they certainly seem similar going by descriptions of them. I would have the CKS1000 by now if it wasn't for them reverting to their original price on amazon jp when I was going to buy them frown.gif


Edited by Gee Simpson - 8/12/13 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post


The S2 are really good. But if you're having problems with them then the M200 might be a gamble. I have both S2 and HF300, but I already promised the S2 to a fellow Head-fier here. Both do certain things right and are fun in their own right, but I just find the extra bass omph and forward mids more my thing. If you liked the S2, the Onkyos will not disappoint.

Dayum, officially hyped up. Technically they are on par with S2's, just with a bass emphasis, more forward mids and less treble emphasis? Seems pretty ideal to me. Soundstage and imaging is pretty good too I assume?
Just need a cheap place to buy them from now haha (if they are even released yet lol)

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I'm also keeping tabs on them. I'm waiting to see if they're better or as good as the CKS1000 before making a decision, they certainly seem similar going by descriptions of them. I would have the CKS1000 by now if it wasn't for them reverting to their original price on amazon jp when I was going to buy them frown.gif
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What were they before if they're around 17000 yen at this point in time?
The Onkyos dont look all that great imo though but hey personal opinion. Anyways if they do sound as good as the CKS1000 i might have to check them out given that they're significantly cheaper.
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