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post #12946 of 32904
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Originally Posted by nihontoman View Post

for a moment there, I thought that was an IEM biggrin.gif

 

 

as for full sized cans from vsonic. I don't know why, but I have a feeling that they might be my first full "higher end" size cans...

Same biggrin.gif

post #12947 of 32904

Figured I'd use what I had on hand to test instead of speculating what would work or not. And those tips are readily available. The Grado iGi kit has the big bi's(clear and black for slightly different bass amounts) and someone found the UE tip kit with the cleaning tool earlier.

 

 

I, for one, am intrigued with the Vsonic DAP though I just bought an old Gigabeat player again and am happy with that purchase.

post #12948 of 32904
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Originally Posted by Gee Simpson View Post

Same biggrin.gif

+1 eek.gif. but what is it?confused_face_2.gif

post #12949 of 32904

I wonder how DIY tips made out of Moldex SparkPlugs would work on the KEF M200. A couple users here (1 and 2) are using them on their RE-400 with good results.

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I see that the Dunu's hybrid DN-1000 is finally available and the price is 180 bucks. Does anyone have any info on it?

post #12951 of 32904
On sell on ebay from bigbarginonline for $194 smily_headphones1.gif, I'm going to get them soon and this will be my first dunu iem biggrin.gif
post #12952 of 32904
X1s are killer at rendering sound from any sources, and with the vmoda cable its a bit more treble happy in the lower treble region and bass is reduced but the cable is shorter . This is my impression with still no burn in biggrin.gif
post #12953 of 32904
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

I see that the Dunu's hybrid DN-1000 is finally available and the price is 180 bucks. Does anyone have any info on it?

 

Someone in China seems to have reviewed it back in June. Can anybody translate?

post #12954 of 32904
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Originally Posted by PeterDLai View Post

 

Someone in China seems to have reviewed it back in June. Can anybody translate?

Yeah, I found that too and was struggling to decipher the chrome translation. It would be nice if someone here understands Chinese and translates it. 

post #12955 of 32904

Actually it seems that review of the Dunu DN-1000 from June is of a beta version and since then there have been some changes. I found this very picture-heavy review of the final version but again google chrome has to be used for the translation so it's a bit of a chorus to try to understand it. http://bbs.dhifi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=46054&page=1&extra=#pid751306

post #12956 of 32904
Thread Starter 

Well I gave it the old college try and for the most part the KEF M200s are absolutely stunning in more ways than one. I have decided to return these. It kinda pains me because I like how they sound. I found out that my FXD tips give and unnatural curve to the sound. The mids are more pushed back in the mix which is not what I want. The FXD tips are not perfect fit for me either but ended up being better than anything else I tried. I have more than your average set of tips and none of them work except the FXDs and Complys set backward.

 

After using my comfortable S2s all day and then trying again to get these to fit right in my ears. I give up. It is shocking to me that these earphones in all indications are top notch in sound design and are excellent in all aspects except for the one aspect that is truly important.

 

Fit. Guys that use medium sized tips will have better luck with these earphones. I mentioned last night the S2s actually hang in there against these and they do. My S2s is also another reason why I am going to return these. I don't necessarily feel the KEF M200s are leaps above in SQ over my S2. Using my X3 with these 2. Both sound excellent and I will not miss having the M200s. The M200s has an excellent sense of space detail and stage that seem to hit all the marks that are required for and excellent hearing session. But not when I am fidgeting with the tips 90% of the time. I don't care how good the sound is if trying over 20 different type of tips don't work it is time to give up..I do think KEF has these tuned exquisitely and masterfully but it is too bad they have a serious flaw in the design..

 

So I have to return these. A first for me to return an earphone.. Because of fit.

post #12957 of 32904

Darn, that sucks!

 

I was on the fence after all the enthusiasm but maybe I aught to pass on it and wait for the S2 to be imported.

post #12958 of 32904
I hope I don't have your issue DS I too usually use large tips and like another poster prefer the round type versus the bullet type. I prefer tips that just plug the edge of the concha with the least amount of insertion. My current favorite IEM is my UE900 using the large single flange UE tip and it often is only a slight tug from coming loose. Comfy while offering a good but shallow seal.
post #12959 of 32904
Thread Starter 

I am not too happy about it either. Guys w/ larger ear canals are gonna have some issues and because the nozzles actually house one of the drivers it is almost 1/2 inch in diameter meaning not too many tips are going to fit on it. As much as I tried I couldn't get over the lack of tip selection for these. Why do I have to find a tip for a $200 phone the answer is I don't..Got my return label.

 

Now what is encouraging is I suspect word will eventually get back to the designers. If they haven't read the Cnet report about problems with fit already..Not well thought out imo..All they had to do is include several types of tips that would fit the nozzle and test them out with different ears. It is unfortunate they neglected this aspect. Another lame part of the nozzle is the diver housing nozzle is short so some tips that might fit will slide out. UE tips for example. Those actually worked somewhat but they ended up being lodged in my ear half the time I would take them out. Lol. Oh well it is just a damn shame.

 

@dweaver I would still try it out with whatever tips you own. Round Complys actually fit on the nozzle and works but Complys for me have an issue with not sealing in my canal and making the sound leaner. The only ones that actually worked for me was the FXDs and after trying out the stock tips and holding them with my hands. The FXDs change the sound for the worse. It seems the drivers or top of the nozzle has to have a straight shot into your ear canal for the sound to be maxxed out and any tip that covers a part of the nozzle opening will do something to the sound..


So to get the best sound you have to have something similar to the stock tops.. The problem is. There is nothing like the stock tips. They are abnormal in size and shape..


Edited by Dsnuts - 8/10/13 at 6:33pm
post #12960 of 32904
I do have a lot of tips including the round comply so hopefully will find something if the stock tips are not working. I vacilate between large and medium and find the medium large or large UE almost interchangeable with the large being a bit more secure. So will just have to anxiously wait and see...
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