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How are the earcaps? Comfortable?

Very comfortable Exesteils. One of the most comfortable headphones I've ever worn. It's funny, but the M500 feels kind of heavy in hand, but not on the head. Nice snug yet comfortable fit.

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So, Recent items of the discovery thread:

 

  • ZA Basso/Tenore ~$60
  • Philips Fidelio S1/S2 ~$95/$145
  • Philips Fidelio X1 ~$245
  • KEF M200 ~$200
  • ONKYO IE-HF300, IE-FC300 ~$130/$100
  • Audio Technica CKS1000 ~$212
  • FiiO X3 ~$200
  • Nuforce NE-700M ~$75
  • RHA MA350 ~$40
  • VSonic VSD1 ~$45-55

 

 

 

 

Am I missing anything?


Edited by dnullify - 8/9/13 at 11:59am
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The Nuforce NE-700 IEMs, and maybe the upcoming RHA MA600/750s.

Glad to know Eric. Another pair of headphones to demo when I have the chance. I swear my list gets longer by the week.
Edited by Exesteils - 8/9/13 at 11:42am
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 Okay, the M200. Hmmmm??/ Hmmmmm? Where do I begin? Well let's get this out of the way first: the bass. The M200's bass is not basshead (another neutral earphone), yet it goes deeper than what I consider any dual audiophile earphone. I mean good deep clean sub-bass. Actually I think the M200 has more sub-bass than the M500 at this point (and the headphone brother's sub-bass is pretty decent). 

Does the M200 and M500 sound exactly the same? No, but you can definitely tell they are siblings in the KEF family. The M200 sounds more refined to my ears in bass and horns, and the treble is not as border-line harsh in the earphone as it is in the headphone (which I suspect will calm down with burn-in). But here is yet another richly refined phone in the KEF family. It sounds as elegant as it looks. This is like what you might imagine the best sound system sounding like in a Bentley, Rollls, Porsche or even a Benz.

 

I also have to say this is would have been my dream sound signature for the Sony EX1000, which is super refined but the highs were like pieces of glass being shoved into my ears. Oh my God, this might be one of the most refined earphones I've ever heard (call it hype, but I can only call it as I hear it). DannyBai heard it first in the group, but I think he held back on how good these sound in case his mind was playing tricks on him. lol

Is it worth having both of them? Yes, I've finally found my perfect portable headphone, and the earphone goes up there with my admiration for the ASG-2, H-200, CKS1000, and RE-400.

Does this earphone sound better than the RE-400? Well I want even delay and say Yes Yes Yes!! Why? The RE-400 is still a great sounding earphone to me, but the M200 simply wins out for me because it gives deep rich bass!! Much more bass than the RE-400, but it's still a neutral earphone. Horns are more natural sounding to me too. Now, the RE-400 may have a little bit more space between instruments, but don't quote me on that yet. I need to A/B these two tonight. But the M200 (without burn-in) is a more detailed earphone to my ears. Timbre is kicking my butt! Imaging too.

So as DannyBai stated, the fit of this earphone is interesting. It is the most shallow fitting earphone I've owned since the Senn. IE-80. You don't go in deep so much as you have the M200 angled just the right way in your ear canal or the bass deep rich bass won't reveal itself. At first I thought these were bass-light earphones, but I started playing around with the angle in the ear and the bass jumped out! Not basshead bass, but deep beautiful visceral bass (like in the M500 but deeper). Then the unique ear tabs easily flex behind your ears and hold the earphones snugly - but comfortably - in place. The earphones are so light that you forget you're wearing them to be made out of metal. And once in place, the tabs don't bother me with my glasses on. 

Kudos and well-done to KEF! 

Oh, sorry I have my H-200 three-driver hybrid with me (another one of my favorite universal earphones). Bass is deeper and richer in the KEF, and yes, overall sound imo is better in the M200. But worthy opponents in the $200 - $250 range, and both shoot way beyond their price-point. If I this M200 sound was $350 to $400, I wouldn't complain. Now, the M500 is $300, and I say it's worth it. I bought both brand new and got a Fantastic deal that really makes me happy (although I can't share how, but both for under $400). I'm aesthetic! KEF is one of the kings in refined sound.

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Wow, the M200 is that good? I have yet to hear a dual dynamic...

 

I'm pretty interested in the Onkyo IEMs, their build and design looks interesting. I'm not to clear on the differences between HF300, and FC300 - i'm assuming it's just the cable color. Either way they're $100/130

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And now I HAVE to try them out tomorrow seeing as you compared them to the H-200, but with richer bass. Consider this my notice of Hyped.
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Wow, the M200 is that good? I have yet to hear a dual dynamic...

 

I'm pretty interested in the Onkyo IEMs, their build and design looks interesting. I'm not to clear on the differences between HF300, and FC300 - i'm assuming it's just the cable color. Either way they're $100/130

 

 

HF300 has a higher grade silver plated copper cable (6n). The FC300 has the stock flat (but various colors) cables.

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Ah, Thanks for clearing that up. I wonder if the extra $30 for the silver plated cable makes a difference with them.

 

Does anyone have them yet, and i missed the impressions?

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^ Oh god if ericp already hypes those like so, i can't even fathom what the nutman will write. triportsad.gif

 

MOTHER OF GOD HELP US ALL!!!

 

CURSE YOU DANNY. angry_face.gif <3

 

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And now I HAVE to try them out tomorrow seeing as you compared them to the H-200, but with richer bass. Consider this my notice of Hyped.

 

 

I always say head-fiers need to hear products for themselves. But not just richer bass, but I think overall the M200 has richer and more detailed sound than the H-200. As good as the H-200 is, it does have a peak somewhere in the highs that can be a bit fatiguing coming from the BA drivers. The M200 are two very high-quality dual dynamics, but as Dsnuts stated on a post not too far back, the micro dynamic drivers almost have a BA-ish sound quality to it in releasing clarity and transparency in the sound. Flip that and you can say the BAs used in the BA200 give off a very dynamic and analog sound to the music. The BA200 is the most dynamic sounding dual BAs I've heard in the dual, but it doesn't have beautiful rich bass of the KEF.

 

And again, if you do audition the M200 and think, "Eric said there would be bass but I hear any," you don't have them in correctly. And trying to push them in deeper won't help. You have the shallow fitting earphones positioned just right in your ears and out pops the bass! 

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I suggest keeping away from the thread for a few months if you want to save your wallet sfw. wink.gif

@dnullify Afaik, I'm the only one who has a pair in the thread. But Eric and Danny will be getting them when they become more readily available
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@dnullify Afaik, I'm the only one who has a pair in the thread. But Eric and Danny will be getting them when they become more readily available


Huh. Do they sound as good as they look? Or is the value in the build quality and design?

 

While they're they share the same price range, they're more readily available than the fidelio S2.

 

I don't know why but I'm more interested in trying out either of the two at that price range, or something in the $15-30 price range than the $55 VSD1 or the $65 Carbo basso (though most of that is i resent paying $20 for tenso for no particularly logical reason).

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I suggest keeping away from the thread for a few months if you want to save your wallet sfw. wink.gif

@dnullify Afaik, I'm the only one who has a pair in the thread. But Eric and Danny will be getting them when they become more readily available

"*unphased* I know for a fact"... that my gr07 BEs and FXZ200s can hang with the best of them.

 

Ericp has to do much better than that in order to move me/wallet, i was just humoring him. wink.gif

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You pay for both the build and the sound. The detachable cables and overall build are exceptional.

The sound is more rounded than the S2. It a deeper bass with more forward mid-range, overall signature leans towards the warm side but it does it in a very unique way. I'd suggest them for a more fun, on-the-go functionality, while the S2 has more analytical sound to it.
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"*unphased* I know for a fact"... that my gr07 BEs and FXZ200s can hang with the best of them.

Ericp has to do much better than that in order to move me/wallet, i was just humoring him. wink.gif

That's the spirit! I saw a pair of those FXZ200 along with their 100 brethren at a store here on my Hong Kong trip, I might try them later tomorrow. smily_headphones1.gif
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