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Wayne--thanks for the head to head comparison on X1 VS CKS1K.  I guess i will have to sell a guitar and get both, now i have to flip a coin and see which comes in first...

headphones are always a more complete musical experience than IEMs for me, but IEMs have a drug like intensity that is more psychedelic and special..which comes first

the chicken or the egg?  what a wonderful time we live in when we have to make delicious choices like this.....yow....im currently gooving on what an amazing difference

that IFI USB power device makes to my dragonfly.  a completely new and upgraded sound, worth every penny, better soundstage, dynamics and timbre.  and the iFi people

say adding the Y Gemini cable that separates out power and digital signal doubles in the improvement...oh my....cant hardly imagine how that would sound...choices choices..

I understand the reluctance to take the X1 off your head..it must be REALLY GREAT!!.. THANKS again, drblue

PS  new shpongle album MUSEUM OF CONSCIOUSNESS is out and great listening for headphone camparisonsf

post #12632 of 32904

my VSD1s almost burned in.  will start listening to them today.  report will follow. thanks for your encouragement to audition these. drblue

the shallow fit bothered me when i tried them on initially,but i guess they re designed to use the ear in a different way, much like the other VSONIC

products...

post #12633 of 32904
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Davey the S2s are like a dynamic version of the XBA-3s believe it or not. Similarly tuned.. Even though they drive fine out of standard daps and cell phones. They truely shine with good amplification and a clean source.. I will do some comparisons when I get a chance to.

You had me at hello. bigsmile_face.gif

No I really start thinking about S2 rolleyes.gif

post #12634 of 32904
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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post

I just wanna share this to those interested in the Basso sound signature:

 

The cheapest ($10) way to experience the Basso sound is with the HTC bundled headset:

http://compare.ebay.com.au/like/190876808013?ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&cbt=y&_lwgsi=y&item_id=190876808013

Tuning is very similar to the Basso; the only difference I can pin-point in a normal listening environment are:

  • Decay - Basso has extended decay
  • Timbre - Basso is more natural sounding
  • Highs - I little bit more extended on the HTC but the Basso has better micro detailing.
  • Basso has better sound refinement.

Everything else sounds like the Basso to me. This is entirely made out of plastic; so I guess the difference in sound material also has something to do with the material sound difference. From memory of my experience with MH1c, I think the HTC is more enjoyable to listen.

 

Now I just wonder what improvements are there with the metal version of this HTC headset?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/360685434315?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Hey I have that  thing since it came with my HTC one but never really payed attention to it lol. Alright time to dig that thing out haha

 

Ugh I really want the cks1000 but don't have the money for it :P that red one looks so good though haha.

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You know these htc earphones really aren't bad for the bundled earphones... the mids are a bit recessed compared to the gr02 be's, but i think they have more bass. Main issue is that the bass clouds the rest of the spectrum and that it lacks clarity (compared to the gr02s again).  With a bit of eqing these aren't half bad.


Edited by Darknet - 8/5/13 at 11:32am
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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Davey the S2s are like a dynamic version of the XBA-3s believe it or not. Similarly tuned.. Even though they drive fine out of standard daps and cell phones. They truely shine with good amplification and a clean source.. I will do some comparisons when I get a chance to.

thats good to know, this way i wont have to bother trying the improved xba30. question is if the S2 is worth the extra dollar over the S1.

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Originally Posted by Darknet View Post

You know these htc earphones really aren't bad for the bundled earphones... the mids are a bit recessed compared to the gr02 be's, but i think they have more bass. Main issue is that the bass clouds the rest of the spectrum and that it lacks clarity (compared to the gr02s again).  With a bit of eqing these aren't half bad.

Try tip rolling, it makes a LOT of difference. Wide bore tips work really well with them. I use the h200 grey tips, brings the upper half of the spectrum forward.

They also need a LOT of power. I use JDSlabs C5 and the bass end has much better control in bass. Bleeding only occurs in poorly recorded tracks.
post #12638 of 32904
The hawk has landed biggrin.gif, open box sound amazing and unbeliveable :0
post #12639 of 32904

what hawk are you referring to?

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Phillips fidelio x1, you know what they sound exactly like my xba-3 :0
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Originally Posted by mochill View Post

Phillips fidelio x1, you know what they sound exactly like my xba-3 :0

I MUST resist confused_face.gif

post #12642 of 32904
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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post


Try tip rolling, it makes a LOT of difference. Wide bore tips work really well with them. I use the h200 grey tips, brings the upper half of the spectrum forward.

They also need a LOT of power. I use JDSlabs C5 and the bass end has much better control in bass. Bleeding only occurs in poorly recorded tracks.

oh ok thanks for the tips (no pun intended). I tried them with some spare silicone tips that came with the gr02 but I guess I'll go salvage some hybrid tips since they generally fit my ear the best, then plug them into the t1. 

 

Edit: after trying it with the t1 they do indeed sound better than out of the htc one. Bass is definitely not boomy and more defined. Unfortunately I don't have that large of a tip selection so I do not know if I am getting the best out of them. With the hybrid tips I use on the gr02 the mids and highs are more prominent with fairly smooth mids. The highs for me aren't that prominent but eartips could change that. All that said I don't want to have to carry something like the e11 with me to use those :P too lazy. Even my sony mdr 1rs sound fine directly out of my phone and sound better doing so. I think I'll just stick to those for portable use- since I got the mdr 1rs I've been using IEMs a lot less because my iem selection is limited and everything <$30 so they can't really compare.


Edited by Darknet - 8/5/13 at 8:24pm
post #12643 of 32904
Thread Starter 

Nick n got a hold of Waynes well burned in pair of CKS1000s. He had this to say.

 

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Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

 these have a one of a kind sound..Extremely musical very enjoyable easy to listen sound.

 

I can see many a guys giving up on these earphones simply because they don't believe in burn in or even if they do they simply don't do it long enough to get these proper.

I am sitting here with a well burned in pair of these things. Using the Vmoda Bliss tips they are really great for most things i find, the soft medical grade silicone. 

Dammit was that the phone ringing across the room?... nope it was some tiny bit of the song way off to the side.   But so close to reality i kept keep looking over to triple/quadruple check.  there it is again....

 

Honestly this thread should never reach past page two at most in here.  These are that good.

Waynesworld and I had a small meet , well 4.5 hours worth of listening to different stuff beerchug.gif.

I like to think, i hope anyways , I have a semi-decent ear for picking up aspects of presentation, resonances etc that sort of thing. Ridiculous amounts of hours spent fine tuning orthodynamic stuff bordering on insanity can get that going pretty good.

 

====There is something i picked up on at the initial listen to these .  A sort of dimensionality to the "soundblocks" that are there, as though they have a 3D aspect to them above and beyond typical iem presentation. First thing I noticed. I could feel around the sounds in a sense.

One small thing I also noticed was very small grumbling/vibrating on the surfaces of some of the instruments/notes. Beautiful!=======

 

Now a day or so later browsing around  with these in mind I see that DSNUTS posted this exact same thing here : http://www.head-fi.org/t/586909/the-discovery-thread-new-kef-m200-pg835-philips-fidelio-s2-pg-724/8775#post_9370907

specifically "Definition is not only there but also gives an amount of depth on your tracks you can actually see with your hearing eye."

 

Not sure how they managed to tune them like this since there is no harshness yet the detailing seems intact.

 

  Something about the signature gets me deeply. Could be the  personal tuning preference I try to hit. Sometimes if luck permits and everything happens to fall into place perfectly ( pretty rare ) a modification hits this gorgeous cohesive flowing sound with no lack of detailing. impactful and organic but not sloppy nor boomy. Things are not slopped together but subtlely connect together.

That's what these have for me.

" Warm " as a descriptor always scares me since I associate that with murky and possibly slow lacking details. You certainly cannot call these "warm" in that sense.

 

In these I hear no lack, just a huge cohesive quality that keeps everything separate in their place, but at the same time part of the whole . Complete immersion?

 Ok time to stop blabbing. I hate posting impressions but these deserve some more love.

So take this for what it's worth.

 

Friggin gorgeous is what you can call these.

post #12644 of 32904
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Friggin gorgeous is what you can call these.

 

 

 

I saw the look on your face when you tried them, and I knew that the audio gods were demanding that you audition the 1k's for a while lol!

beerchug.gif

post #12645 of 32904

Nice sound tasting Nick n  made me drool for a listening of the cks1000s myself....the 3D aspect of feeling arouond with your hearing  eye (DSnuts synethesia lingo)

sounds delicious, and a quest worthy of undertaking. how can one resist that experience....does the X1 serve up such a culinary auditory delight?? sounds like a price is no object experience for those bent on wallet destruction in the name of audio art.  well done.

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