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Any of the fidelio S2 owners out there, how well do they isolate - being semi open-backed? would they be useable say in a train/subway or out on a bustling city street?
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I did use it outdoors and on transport a couple of times. Still useable thou I have to turn up the volume a little to drown out the outside noise and it doesn't seems to leak sound too much. But it definitely sound great in a quieter environment.
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So I have been listening to my now fairly well burned in S2.. Guys try out some Sony Hybrid tips..Not only do these isolate and seal well but are more comfy over the Complys. And. The sound.

 

All I can say is. I put on Jamiroquai's emergency on planet earth remastered CD. It simply just don't get much better using these. It pushes the mids and bass a bit forward adding a touch of musicality to the already outstanding balanced sound these have and you get a very mind blowing experience.. Out standing sound in every singly way. Try out them hybrids. I don't know if I can go back to the complys anymore.. They fit much better for me as well.

 

These sound really nice with metal.. Prong for the win!


Edited by Dsnuts - 6/27/13 at 8:59pm
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So I have been listening to my now fairly well burned in S2.. Guys try out some Sony Hybrid tips..Not only do these isolate and seal well but are more comfy over the Complys. And. The sound.

All I can say is. I put on Jamiroquai's emergency on planet earth remastered CD. It simply just don't get much better using these. It pushes the mids and bass a bit forward adding a touch of musicality to the already outstanding balanced sound these have and you get a very mind blowing experience.. Out standing sound in every singly way. Try out them hybrids. I don't know if I can go back to the complys anymore.. They fit much better for me as well.

Have been waiting for your feedbacks and would try out with the hybrid tips.

Looks like the S2 and the RE400 reviewed by Eric are in the same league and with the same sound sig. Would have been a tough choice to make between them if I haven't already bought the S2. There again, I'm still curious how they compares.

Anyway, the S2 just sounds so good to my ears and looking forward to hear them fully burned.
Edited by Leo888 - 6/27/13 at 11:44pm
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keep tabs on the Fidelio S1/S2 thread it seems Nulliverse will get both to compare I am interested to hear how they compare as well.

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When were the s2 released in Japan?
They're already on philip's USA website. Hopefully they'll become available here shortly.
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Wait, it looks like there's more gunk on the grill on the one side. Could that be the issue? If so, how would he go about cleaning it?

Uhm a cotton stick with some warm water?
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I don't want to give them any attention so i will just refer to them as the Corecool lookalikes if they indeed end up sounding the same. From Lifted's impressions so far, i think they are the same iems.

 

I got the "unspeakable lookalikes" 2 weeks ago, and they match 100% your Corecool description... actually I'm ordering a 2nd pair right now, as I can not think of any better IEM for a basshead. Still need to try the "sfwalcer mod", but for the moment I really enjoy them as they are.

 

By the way, the Comply foam tips for TDK IE800 (T-400) fits perfectly on these ones and they feel so comfortable :-)

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There are several cheap but good bass cannons in the Xears catalogue, I'm thinking of the XE200PRO in particular. I think the wood gives them a slightly natural quality. New discoveries are great, but one shouldn't overlook things that are already there and possibly better.  

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speacking of xears, there's also this:

 

http://www.xears.com/produkte/xearsr-4core-hybrid-series?___store=default&___from_store=german

 

wonder if they tweaked it differently....

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Bass is the one aspect manufacturers seem to do in abundance. It is how it is implemented that really matters.I bet if you guys went onto one of them Chinese ebay like sites and ordered a random made in china earphone the first thing your gonna hear is gonna be the bass. Unfortunately that seems to be more of a norm than anything.. That is why  "consumer friendly sound" means it will definitely have bass and probably too much of it..

 

But the worse is when well established companies do that just to sell more earphones with their names on it. I am all for bass but some of these cannons that come out has nothing to do with proper balance or other true qualities on sound. It is about who is gonna produce the biggest bass with some semblance of what they consider balance. I suppose everyone is guilty of doing this. I will be the first to admit I love my bass lines just as much as anyone else that loves them low notes but when they start to become me too that is when it gets somewhat redundant.

 

What separates a good bass phone like the basso vs the countless others is they have the ability to do more than just bass.. Bass seems to be the easy part of the sound for most earphones.. How about picking off microdetails and getting that out of head experience because the imagery is so great. How about a cohesive sound vs one that has the bass stand on their own. How about a deep mid section where you can see with your minds eye a distinctive layering in the sounds. How about true sparkly treble where high notes shimmer and add to the immersion factor. Then if you add them quality low notes that is what I personally look for in a bass phone. Then you got something to truly be happy about. Unfortunately most earphones will get one or two aspects to a decent level starting with bass but just can't seem to know how to capture the rest of the sound correctly.  Too many earphones end up sounding alike because of this. Bass with passable mids and flat or rolled off highs or bass with weak mids and too much highs.

 

Going off of Jokers grade scale. If you guys look at his sound descriptions an entire section is dedicated to bass and how it does but what truly separates the cheap sounding ones from the higher graded ones are the ones that does the other aspects correct..

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There are several cheap but good bass cannons in the Xears catalogue, I'm thinking of the XE200PRO in particular. I think the wood gives them a slightly natural quality. New discoveries are great, but one shouldn't overlook things that are already there and possibly better.  

 

Good point.

What I actually meant with my comment about the "Corecool and its sisters" earphones, is that the whole family looks great for bassheads... and if some of them are sold at 50% or 25% of the price of some of their twins, than probably these are some best bang for bucks.

 

Xears could be slightly "differently" fine-tuned, but would that actually justify the 4x cost for XE200PRO (single driver) or 5x cost for 4cores (one of the dual drivers "sisters") compared to the QX50 ? I'd not be so sure about it and anyway not willing to try, as I'm 200% happy with my "unspeakable ones".

By the way, after using them for a couple of hours on some post-metal, I switched briefly to the JVC FX3X and first impression was: where the bass is gone ? basshead.gif

 

Sometimes maybe they are even too excessive on bass (hence the "sfwalcer mod"), but if you are in the proper bass-mood, they are great.

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Good point.

What I actually meant with my comment about the "Corecool and its sisters" earphones, is that the whole family looks great for bassheads... and if some of them are sold at 50% or 25% of the price of some of their twins, than probably these are some best bang for bucks.

 

Xears could be slightly "differently" fine-tuned, but would that actually justify the 4x cost for XE200PRO (single driver) or 5x cost for 4cores (one of the dual drivers "sisters") compared to the QX50 ? I'd not be so sure about it and anyway not willing to try, as I'm 200% happy with my "unspeakable ones".

By the way, after using them for a couple of hours on some post-metal, I switched briefly to the JVC FX3X and first impression was: where the bass is gone ? basshead.gif

 

Sometimes maybe they are even too excessive on bass (hence the "sfwalcer mod"), but if you are in the proper bass-mood, they are great.

Have you got the M Duos?

I want a comparison between QX50 and M Duos but no one has that combo! lol

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Have you got the M Duos?

I want a comparison between QX50 and M Duos but no one has that combo! lol

Sorry, I do not have the M-Duos. Looking at pictures on MEElec site, the housing seems slightly different and the cable is not flat, so more similar to the corecool.

At $79 they look quite interesting.  

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Those Xears prices are kind of fictitious btw, with the code KLANGFUZZIS you can get all of them (except the 4core, at least for now) for €35. I'd certainly recommend the XE if you felt like trying one out.

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