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Frankly, I don't need more bass than the SHE3580 thank you. It's already as extended as can be (down to 20Hz without dropping) and as boosted as I care for (I cut it by 10dB). But nice catch anyway smily_headphones1.gif


well, for all we know it's an even more improved version of the SHE3580.... I got no budget at the moment, but when I get some cash I'll definitely checking these out

post #1127 of 32858

Just bought a Philips SHE9700 for €39.99

Hope it is good as the hype!

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WOW a SHE9700 out of the blue. Yes enjoy those. These remind me much of the CKM50s. There are similar sound qualities on both. Both are discontinued earphone with much bass and proper sound. I think the SHE9700 has the more fuller mids so those are even better balanced over the CKM50s.I whipped those out the other say to take a listen. The only thing I hate about those is the spaghetti noodle cord. It is forever spaghetti!

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It was the last one left in the store. I actually went to get the SHE3580 but they only had the pink one so I got these instead & your impression helped a lot, so thank you vary much Dsnuts gs1000.gif

 

But the weird thing is when I listened to it with my C2+E11 it sounded dark & veiled, the bass was a bit rolled off, the mids&highs were recessed and there was an annoying loud hiss.

Hugely disappointed, I used just the C2 and Voila!! It sounded awesome!!

SQ was just like my HF5 with bass boost! And the hiss was completely gone!

Settings on the E11 are high power, low gain & the bass is on 1

C2 eq was BBE headphone 1

What's your thoughts about this?

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Those SHE9700 need no amps at all to sound full. They sound awesome without. I have never used my E11 with them I suppose I can try that out but I never had the need to. The less stuff I am lugging around the better is my thought. My SONY S545 is a perfect match with the SHE9700. I use a bit of a bass and treble boost in eq as well and it just sounds awesome.

post #1131 of 32858
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Those SHE9700 need no amps at all to sound full. They sound awesome without. I have never used my E11 with them I suppose I can try that out but I never had the need to. The less stuff I am lugging around the better is my thought. My SONY S545 is a perfect match with the SHE9700. I use a bit of a bass and treble boost in eq as well and it just sounds awesome.

I use the E11 fo my HD25 and the C2 & the E11 are kind of stuck together.

My walkman A829 also sounds great with the SHE9700 without the aid of an amp. 

But my HF5 sounds great with the E11.

Both are 16Ω impedance earphones.

So what could be the trouble with the E11 and the philips?

 

 

 

post #1132 of 32858
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Can't say. I know some devices just don't work well with some but great with others.  But I think it is a good thing they don't need an amp. The whole idea behind an amp is to make your music sound full. If a piece of equipment helps you do this without and extra amps and the like. That is just a good thing imo. It just comes down to the sound tuning I suppose. Maybe the SHE9700 is more sensitive for some reason. I just tried it with my E11. Some Metallica. Sounds fantastic. The bass drum sounds like an explosion.  No issues on my end.

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So this is a bit interesting.  I just A/Bed the SHE9700 with the SHE5101.  These sound identical and I mean almost exactly like each other.. Lol!.  I can take the right end of the SHE5105 and the left of the SHE9700 and it sounds like I am listening to one earphone. That close.

 

But at double the cost of the SHE9700 the SHE5105 has much better build with no spaghetti j cord.. So considering the SHE9700 has been discontinued since 1998 or so it seems Philips is guilty of rebranding the same drivers in a different shell and renaming them as a new headphone.

 

So we get a new design with same drivers in the SHE5105.  The SHE9700 the mids are not as forward sounding as the SHE5105  differences I think the drivers in the SHE5105 might have been placed closer to the ear vs more back on the SHE9700 resulting in just a slight sound tweek between the 2. The SHE5105 does sound just a bit more balanced out of the 2.  But pretty much the same sound on both.


Edited by Dsnuts - 3/16/12 at 3:21pm
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Well just I completed my Amazon purchase for a pair of SHE3580's and some MEElectronics M6-CL's.  Should have them by end of next week.  I'm holding Dsnuts and Joe Bloggs responsible if they suck.  Mainly have wanted to try the M6's for a while, cause they are sport oriented over the ears and I road/mountain bike and getting sick of my Sony MDR-EX75's falling out, plus I wanted to have a set of double flanged tips to try out.

 

Some other info...I've recently been doing oodles of research, looking for some excellent bass headphones.  What I had narrowed my top 2 choices down to were the Audio-Technica ATH-PRO700MK2's and the Ultrasone HFI-580's and maybe the Sony MDR-XB500B's, I can count.  There was a discussion over here: http://www.head-fi.org/t/553735/audio-technica-ath-pro700mk2-review-take-two-subwoofers-straight-to-the-head/420#post_8222995

 

So I was really close to ordering, but couldn't pull the trigger.  I'd like a chance to hear these first, especially for the $$.  Not only that but I learned of the Audio-Technica ATH-PRO700MK2ANV Limited Edition's.  So if it turns out that I love the PRO700's, I'd want the anniversary editions, 1. cause they are bomb proof and would last forever and 2. cause they look awesome and I'd be willing to pay the extra.  Also, sounds as thought the PRO700's are a bit uncomfortable.

 

I'll be mostly using an iPod Touch 4th Gen, iPod Shuffle, and my Samsung Galaxy S2 for listening.

 

I'll give my thought's when they arrive.

post #1135 of 32858
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I just tried it with my E11. Some Metallica. Sounds fantastic. The bass drum sounds like an explosion.  No issues on my end.

Was there any hissing with the E11? With mine there was a very audible hissing, none with just the Cowon C2.

 

 

Ha! so I just bought a 14 year old product huh?

Is it worth keeping that much old product? Because the newer SHE9750 is only €10 more.

Thanks for your input!


 

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The Pro700MK2s is a way too dark sounding headphone. There are only a few headphones I sent packing those are one of them. If you listen to trance that has some complex notes in them the Pro700MK2 is not what you think it is. I do own the DJ1 which is the DJ version of the HFI-580 and those are awesome for trance and hiphop. You get clarity and a nice S-Logic surround sound with them. There are guys that do like the Pro700MK2s but to be honest I am basshead that must have balance and clarity.

 

If the headphone is too dark and lacks clarity it just gets the boot from me and guess what. The Pro700MK2s. I know they look nice. They are way too dark and the bass is overwhelming on those to the point where it will drown out other important frequencies in what you hear. Not to mention they have the worse clamp on the face of this planet for any headphone.  On slower hip hop grooves it sounds great but for trance. I couldn't make out what notes the tune was playing. It sounded like I had a head cold listening to the tunes. If I pay good money for a headphone it better be able to play all my tunes with authority. The real problem with those. They won't play all your music like you know it. They will sound great with some but not others. The anniversary one looks even nicer.. For the cost I would just get a ATH-CKS77 and you can get a HFI-580 both.  The best bassy earphones and one of the best bassy headphones. A 2 for one and both with actually sound better than the Pro700Mk2s.. That is just my 2 cents.

 

I would go for the HFI-580s or the DJ1s. Plenty of bass with your highs and mids. I am like this with earphones as well. I recently got a Pioneer CL-721 and if the massive driver flex didn't give you a reason to be pissed the canny overly bassy sound with no clarity certainly did.. I will only recommend headphones and earphone that have Clarity. Without it I might as well not clean my ears out at all and let the wax build up and close my ears.  If you can sample those somehow I would just to hear them. Then you will know what I am talking about.

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Was there any hissing with the E11? With mine there was a very audible hissing, none with just the Cowon C2.

 

 

Ha! so I just bought a 14 year old product huh?

Is it worth keeping that much old product? Because the newer SHE9750 is only €10 more.

Thanks for your input!


 


Stay away from the SHE9750.. Those would be like the Pro700MK2.. The bassiest earphones Phillips makes. They are simply too overly bassy. Big ole mid bass hump with a clear lack of detailed highs. Your SHE9700 has Clarity the SHE9750 doesn't..As for the hissing I don't hear any on my set up at all. I think as long as you don't hear hissing on your Walkman you should be fine.

 

You know just because something is discontinued that don't mean a thing. It comes down to the sound. If anything I would grab one of those SHE9700s before everyone sells out and there is no more to be found.. I would put the sounds of the SHE 9700 and the SHE 5105 to be about equal which both are actually an improvement over the SHE3580.. All 3 are the best earphones Philips makes as far as I am concerned.

 


Edited by Dsnuts - 3/16/12 at 3:57pm
post #1138 of 32858
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Stay away from the SHE9750.. Those would be like the Pro700MK2.. The bassiest earphones Phillips makes. They are simply too overly bassy. Big ole mid bass hump with a clear lack of detailed highs. Your SHE9700 has Clarity the SHE9750 doesn't..As for the hissing I don't hear any on my set up at all. I think as long as you don't hear hissing on your Walkman you should be fine.

 


Great! 

Thanks!!

 

post #1139 of 32858
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Ya the natural curiosity for greater sound is easy to do on these Philips earphones as I think they have more models than just about anyone in the market..I ended up testing most of them and you definitely got one of the best ones they got. I would just enjoy them for what they are. I even bought the newest SHE 5105 and those SHE9700 sound just as good to my ears. They sound awesome on my E11 actually. More authority.  Cycle through your tunes with the SHE9700 and these have it where it counts. Good balance for a bassier earphone. Great bass a bit bigger than the SHE3580. Clean highs that is not ear piercing or lacking in any way. Good sound stage, again better than the SHE3580. Even better instrument separation than the SHE3580. Even though the SHE9700 came out before the SHE3580. They are actually are a more technical earphone.. I just wish they weren't a J cord with permanent kinks in the cord.

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Right on Dsnuts.  I've been kinda thinking that the PRO700's might seem a bit too muffled.  My favorite music is trance/techno with sexy female vocals (Kaskade - Angel On My Shoulder & Plumb - Cut (Bronleewe & Bose Remix) for instance).  I also listen to things like Third Eye Blind, Lady GaGa, Matchbox Twenty, Mickey Avalon, 3OH!3 and so on.  So overall great sound with excellent bass is quite important.

 

I think you've finally pushed me over the edge.  I think I'm going for the Ultrasone's.  What are you thoughts on the HFI-580 vs DJ1 vs DJ1 PRO?  Build and shape of the DJ1 PRO's is a little different and has higher impedance (64 Ohm up from 32 Ohm).  Plus I have an audiophile buddy that has Ultrasone's older PRO-550's which he's recommended.

 

I'd really like your thought's on those Ultrasone's, thank for your time and input :-)

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