or Connect
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › The discovery thread.! New NiceHCK DZ7 1DD+6 BA iem impression by ericp10. Page 2153
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

The discovery thread.! New NiceHCK DZ7 1DD+6 BA iem impression by ericp10. Page 2153 - Page 74

post #1096 of 32862

Dsnuts, are the CKM50's still the earbud to get for $20? This thread is so large now i couldn't possibly read everything. Talk about a Budget-Fi renaissance.

 

Also i would love to hear your opinion on the CKM50's Vs. Panasonic RP-HTF600. As far as SQ and sound signature.

post #1097 of 32862
Thread Starter 

Oh yea if you don't have the CKM50s yet.  I would snag one. They have more in common with the M50 more than the HTF600s but ya for $20 it is a no brainer.  If you like fun sound signatures the CKM50 would be a fun sound signature earphone.The HTF600 has the better mids of the 2 but what is on the CKM50s is a very smooth mid section that is very enjoyable to hear vocals with. Bass on both hit hard and I think the CKM50s actually have the lower sub bass extension. The HTF600s are not weak in that department however..

post #1098 of 32862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Oh yea if you don't have the CKM50s yet.  I would snag one. They have more in common with the M50 more than the HTF600s but ya for $20 it is a no brainer.  If you like fun sound signatures the CKM50 would be a fun sound signature earphone.The HTF600 has the better mids of the 2 but what is on the CKM50s is a very smooth mid section that is very enjoyable to hear vocals with. Bass on both hit hard and I think the CKM50s actually have the lower sub bass extension. The HTF600s are not weak in that department however..



Already done =). Can't wait for both of them to get here.

post #1099 of 32862

I went to a Sony outlet store again last week to demo some headphones; one of the few places left that you get to listen and not only rely on reviews. Most of the headphones there are a little dodgy, meaning they're good consumer products but not spectacular. Then I saw there were some iems open...wow I found MDR-EX700Lp's. These aren't the over ear cable of the 600 or 1000s. The cable is a J config just like the Isurus, small shell, pancake with sony hybrid tips, which is the tip I prefer for everything I can force it onto.

I put them on and just smiled........

 

It's funny, these got no love. One reviewer at amazon detailed the two versions of the model. Apparently the knock-offs came fast and furious, You can buy those for 4.99 on that auction site with free shipping. Yesterday I went on my lunch to get them from the outlet.

These remind me of good acoustic suspension speakers. Presently four hours of burn and initial impressions: Isusus signature with detail, not just treble detail but also in the bass and its very clearly same but different; aka similar. No microphone and very easy to drive.

post #1100 of 32862
Thread Starter 

Those EX700s sound like the real deal. Ya I have to admit I am not a huge fan of the EX600 over the ear wonky design. They feel like they might fall out if I don't keep my head straight.  As for sound it doesn't surprise me those sound great to you. Real Sony products are fantastic it is just too bad about the rampant counterfeits that are everywhere.

 

I just recently got the CKM99s on sale for $99 and at that price it was one of the best deals I got all year regarding any earphone and they are now my current favorites. They have much similarities to their younger brother the CKM77s but with even more refinements and sound. They are somehow much more musical and smoother than even my GR07. I will do a write up about them here shortly on the CKM50 thread. Congrats on the purchase.

 

Truth be told there a lot of headphones that are not mentioned here at headfi or dont get much love.. Look at the entire Audio Technica line up. These CKM99s are fantastic yet they didn't get too much write up minus maybe 2 reviews.. So if you find something that is music to your ears that is not mentioned too much then I think it is cool to find one that you enjoy.. It is all about the discovery for your own ears. Enjoy your new earphones my friend and throw us some updates once you get those fully burned in. I am in the process of burn in on my CKM99 myself.


Edited by Dsnuts - 3/10/12 at 10:27am
post #1101 of 32862

"and they are not my current favorites"

well, i guess i'll wait along with everyone else to find out what the current favorite is.....lol you really are the Stephen King of headphones. that's a complement just in case you don't like "the king"

post #1102 of 32862
Thread Starter 

I meant to write. Yes. They are now my current favorites. Yes even over the ASG-1s. The ASG-1 is a strange one. I can hear their potential for some tunes they are off the planet great but for some they just sound off for some reason.

 

They are growing on me but they weren't like throw in your new earphones and have a smile experience like the CKM99s.

The CKM99 to my ears sounds like a super high quality headphone. The sound is awesome. I will work on a write up here in a few about them. But the ASG-1s. On some tracks its like that and on others it is cringe worthy. lol!

post #1103 of 32862

Hi Dsnuts - so you don't have a pair of 'phones that you reference your hearing to when considering other 'phones. Do you find that your mood impacts how much you enjoy the sound of a new set of 'phones? (OK you always seem up-beat, maybe this isn't an issuesmily_headphones1.gif).

 

I do the same as you, there are certain tracks I listen to and certain cues I'm listening for in the tracks with different 'phones. There's BB King and Clapton's "Riding with the King", track 11 (Hold On) at the very beginning there's a hiss on Lucille's amp (you can certainly hear it with the Isurus) then towards the end of the track there's a lot going on (background singers, 2 guitars, a lot of drums, a bass guitar, etc.) and most 'phones can't handle all of the complexity (so you can't hear the individual components, they all get averaged together).  Its a terrific album for listening to, very well recorded and a range of different sounding tracks (some quiet, acoustic, "rock and roll", etc.).

 

Thanks for the congrats on making my 25 posts (it was fun!!).  But I still can't do classifieds (I think because you have to be registered for more than 30 days, gosh lots of rules, but maybe they're important in large forums).

 

ri_toast - did you just pick up MDR -EX700's in the clearance bin?? Aren't these $300 iems???

I hope you did manage to find them for an incredible bargain (who'd think of finding these in the clearance  bin, LOL!!) - Enjoy!!   Hikergrl

post #1104 of 32862
Thread Starter 

Reference earphones. Hmm. I would say 2 of the most neutral earphones I own are the GR07 and the EX600. Headphone wise..Hmm SRH440, XZ700, V-80.  Anything that has bigger bass tends to make the sound warmer. Anything anemic mids or thin highs tend to sound brighter. I listen to these 2 just to get a flat line for what is neutral but to be honest I have so many headphones and earphones it is easy for me to tell what part of the sound I hear is weak or too strong usually on first listen without too much thought.

 

I think the most important aspect about any earphone I hear new or otherwise has to have 1) Clarity, without this most fundamental aspect of the over all sound if it don't have it, it gets the boot. 2) Balance, even the bassiest of iems and headphones has to have it, too much of any one aspect that overshadows the rest.These type of phones get the boot..3) Does it do a particular sound signature justice?.  If it is bassy it better bring it, If it is detailed I better be able to hear a person clap and sneeze in the 3rd row at a live stage concert if it is in the recording. 4)enjoyable? It better be,  too grating or headache inducing and it will get the boot.

 

I suppose mood impacts how I listen to a phone. Sometimes for old times sake I like to throw on my Metal collection and it puts me in such a better mood. Gets the blood pumping when I work out in the morning and in the evening I like to throw on some Jazz when I get my drink on to relax. So I suppose listening to music is much dependent on my mood.


Edited by Dsnuts - 3/10/12 at 7:13pm
post #1105 of 32862



 

Quote:
Originally Posted by hikergrl View Post

Hi Dsnuts - so you don't have a pair of 'phones that you reference your hearing to when considering other 'phones. Do you find that your mood impacts how much you enjoy the sound of a new set of 'phones? (OK you always seem up-beat, maybe this isn't an issuesmily_headphones1.gif).

 

I do the same as you, there are certain tracks I listen to and certain cues I'm listening for in the tracks with different 'phones. There's BB King and Clapton's "Riding with the King", track 11 (Hold On) at the very beginning there's a hiss on Lucille's amp (you can certainly hear it with the Isurus) then towards the end of the track there's a lot going on (background singers, 2 guitars, a lot of drums, a bass guitar, etc.) and most 'phones can't handle all of the complexity (so you can't hear the individual components, they all get averaged together).  Its a terrific album for listening to, very well recorded and a range of different sounding tracks (some quiet, acoustic, "rock and roll", etc.).

 

Thanks for the congrats on making my 25 posts (it was fun!!).  But I still can't do classifieds (I think because you have to be registered for more than 30 days, gosh lots of rules, but maybe they're important in large forums).

 

ri_toast - did you just pick up MDR -EX700's in the clearance bin?? Aren't these $300 iems???

I hope you did manage to find them for an incredible bargain (who'd think of finding these in the clearance  bin, LOL!!) - Enjoy!!   Hikergrl


they weren't clearance bin but still a good deal. before tax 180. Seems expensive but when you add up all the other iems (counts on hands and feet, omg, that many?) yep worthy. Couple that with full size cans I'm still way short of the lcd3 or Stax 009 but it's good to have iem that can play with the full size. Wasn't so long ago that comparable (between iems and full size) sound equivalents ran almost double. In other words to get a full size sound of a 200 over ear you'd likely spend 400. Dsnuts showed me the budget way..... those 7.11 cent iems still make me smile. sorry to read the AGS-1 didn't do it for you.

 

Good to see Clapton does "it" for you. I've got a few MFSL recordings, always good.

post #1106 of 32862

This is something I have a problem with on this forum. You say they feel like they might fall out. Have they? Put them in and get a secure fit, then try and shake them off your head as if you're trying to get water out of your ear. Seriously, try it. Report back.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Ya I have to admit I am not a huge fan of the EX600 over the ear wonky design. They feel like they might fall out if I don't keep my head straight.



 

post #1107 of 32862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Selenium View Post

This is something I have a problem with on this forum. You say they feel like they might fall out. Have they? Put them in and get a secure fit, then try and shake them off your head as if you're trying to get water out of your ear. Seriously, try it. Report back.
 

Some people just don't like an over the top of the ear cable; I'm one of them. Eyeglasses along with a cable over the ear make me feel like I'm being attacked from behind. I blame the tf10s, wanna buy em? I'm either going to sell or reshell.

post #1108 of 32862

Well "feeling" that way isn't really positive either, whether they fall out or not; comfort can take away from the listening experience, whether it affects the sound or not. But maybe he will be able to get used to it.
 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Selenium View Post

This is something I have a problem with on this forum. You say they feel like they might fall out. Have they? Put them in and get a secure fit, then try and shake them off your head as if you're trying to get water out of your ear. Seriously, try it. Report back.
 



 



 

post #1109 of 32862
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dsnuts View Post

Oh yea if you don't have the CKM50s yet.  I would snag one. They have more in common with the M50 more than the HTF600s but ya for $20 it is a no brainer.  If you like fun sound signatures the CKM50 would be a fun sound signature earphone.The HTF600 has the better mids of the 2 but what is on the CKM50s is a very smooth mid section that is very enjoyable to hear vocals with. Bass on both hit hard and I think the CKM50s actually have the lower sub bass extension. The HTF600s are not weak in that department however..



Where do you find the CKM50s for $20. Cheapest I can find is twice that.

post #1110 of 32862
Thread Starter 
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
Head-Fi.org › Forums › Equipment Forums › Portable Headphones, Earphones and In-Ear Monitors › The discovery thread.! New NiceHCK DZ7 1DD+6 BA iem impression by ericp10. Page 2153