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post #10411 of 32897
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Originally Posted by peter123 View Post

I just posted this in the VSD1 thread an thought  it would fit here as well:

 

... The other CRAZY thing is that these are way more comfortable wearing over the ear then straight down. These must have been designed to be used over ear. The weird thing is that wearing them over the ear puts the right driver in my left ear and the other way around. This is a really stupind mistake from the designers.

 

so the sound is being flipped the wrong way... not a very enticing 

post #10412 of 32897
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Originally Posted by daveyostrow View Post

 

so the sound is being flipped the wrong way... not a very enticing 

Well, it's meant to be worn cable down, so it's logical that if you put the left channel in the right ear to wear it in an over-the-ear fashion the channels will be swapped. But yeah, over-th-ear fit is great with the VSD1, so vsonic should probably have made it to be worn this way. I guess if people want to wear it over-the-ear and their source can't swap the channels, they can just change the plug and wire it so the channels are swapped or get a TRS adapter like the one that came with the re262 to swap the channels.

post #10413 of 32897
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Well, it's meant to be worn cable down, so it's logical that if you put the left channel in the right ear to wear it in an over-the-ear fashion the channels will be swapped. But yeah, over-th-ear fit is great with the VSD1, so vsonic should probably have made it to be worn this way. I guess if people want to wear it over-the-ear and their source can't swap the channels, they can just change the plug and wire it so the channels are swapped or get a TRS adapter like the one that came with the re262 to swap the channels.


Just curious... what's the big deal about the channels being swapped? ph34r.gif

post #10414 of 32897
So... have been owning ckn70 for month and cks99 for 4 months now.
Sound signature is very similar and sq equal. They are sidegrades with some minimal differences. cks has more sub bass, but ckn have amazingly deep mid bass. Soundstage is very big in both iems, but place where are listener is different. cks has less microdetails, but have better highs- ckn are bit harsher in brigt songs. detail level is on par, but mids are emotioanal in ckn. both are very fast iems.
Comfort wise they are similar- so superb. And i have no problems regard to ckn cable quality and j tipe. only they both are microphonic.
Both sq wise is better anything i have heard(xba-4, cks77, tf10, westone 2, mmdt, hd595, hm5) only hd25 is on same level.
Actually cks99 signature is exatly like dsnuts describe cks1000.
Compared to other microdriver iems i have heard ckn70 is best.
second place goes to mh1-c, 3. to vc02, 4th is fx40 and last is fxd80- for me fxd were terrible.
Next purchase would be es700 this week.
post #10415 of 32897
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Originally Posted by waynes world View Post


Just curious... what's the big deal about the channels being swapped? ph34r.gif

What's the big deal? Swapped channels just ruin my air drumming sessions. cool.gif But seriously, if it doesn't bother you then it's fine. There are a lot of people who wouldn't pay attention to instrument positioning and won't even notice something like the channels being swapped. I, on the other hand, know my music and I know it well - I just play a track and immediately know which is left and which is right, so swapped channels bother me. If I listen to music I never heard before then I probably won't be bothered at all.

post #10416 of 32897
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Well, it's meant to be worn cable down, so it's logical that if you put the left channel in the right ear to wear it in an over-the-ear fashion the channels will be swapped. But yeah, over-th-ear fit is great with the VSD1, so vsonic should probably have made it to be worn this way. I guess if people want to wear it over-the-ear and their source can't swap the channels, they can just change the plug and wire it so the channels are swapped or get a TRS adapter like the one that came with the re262 to swap the channels.

Your right what I really ment was that since they fit so great over ear they should have been designed to be that way. Of course other people might have different opinion.

 

Since they fit so great over ear I'll propably use them for work out mostly (replacing my gr99 for this purpose) and in that situation the swapped channels doesn't bother my much.

post #10417 of 32897
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

What's the big deal? Swapped channels just ruin my air drumming sessions. cool.gif But seriously, if it doesn't bother you then it's fine. There are a lot of people who wouldn't pay attention to instrument positioning and won't even notice something like the channels being swapped. I, on the other hand, know my music and I know it well - I just play a track and immediately know which is left and which is right, so swapped channels bother me. If I listen to music I never heard before then I probably won't be bothered at all.


Got it. I have been listening to mainly new music lately. But yeah, would be an issue with tunes I'm familiar with.

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Anyone experimented with tips on the Carbo Basso or are the stock ones fine? I'm not sure how far in my ears I should be pushing them though.

post #10419 of 32897
I use medium stock tips for tighter bass then at times philips 3580 tips for better highs but it loosens the bass a bit. No need for deep insertion as long as there's good seal.
post #10420 of 32897

Just read the first decent head-fi impressions on the SZ2000. The member is stating that the bass and highs are better than in the WS99, and that the mids are on about the same level as the AT. I'm so sold! Checkout that thread when you guys have a chance. 

post #10421 of 32897
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Originally Posted by ericp10 View Post

Just read the first decent head-fi impressions on the SZ2000. The member is stating that the bass and highs are better than in the WS99, and that the mids are on about the same level as the AT. I'm so sold! Checkout that thread when you guys have a chance. 


Been there done that. triportsad.gif

 

Think the hype train is gonna blast off to Mars on this one. deadhorse.gif

post #10422 of 32897
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Originally Posted by Mackem View Post

Anyone experimented with tips on the Carbo Basso or are the stock ones fine? I'm not sure how far in my ears I should be pushing them though.

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Originally Posted by d marc0 View Post

I use medium stock tips for tighter bass then at times philips 3580 tips for better highs but it loosens the bass a bit. No need for deep insertion as long as there's good seal.

Should discuss this in the information thread too guys. Would be helpful to other Zero Audio users.
post #10423 of 32897
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Originally Posted by sfwalcer View Post


Been there done that. triportsad.gif

Think the hype train is gonna blast off to Mars on this one. deadhorse.gif

I see that you're already saving for your ticket to get on the hypetrain by selling the WS99. wink.gif

E: Getting back into the IEM/Celebrity troll memorabilia game by buying a pair of CNK70s previously owned by SFW! biggrin.gif
Edited by MrEleventy - 6/3/13 at 12:02pm
post #10424 of 32897
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Originally Posted by kova4a View Post

Swapped channels just ruin my air drumming sessions. cool.gif

Actually, they make it more accurate, as the drums are usually panned as if you're in front of them (toms descending from right to left), so if you swap channels you have the drummer's aural image.

post #10425 of 32897
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Originally Posted by MrEleventy View Post


I see that you're already saving for your ticket to get on the hypetrain by selling the WS99. wink.gif

E: Getting back into the IEM/Celebrity troll memorabilia game by buying a pair of CNK70s previously owned by SFW! biggrin.gif

TroLoLoLoLoLO, you got those CKN70s from oneo'clockseven??? HA!!! i was tempted to buy it back from him tbh, but it seems so stupid to do so so..... i should have kept those senni tips sigh. angry_face.gif

 

Nah i just don't use those WS99 for some reason (they are amazing no doubt), but i have been only listening to my FXZ200s. I guess i am more of an iem type of guy since they are so much better on the go and isolates much better than most headphones.

 

Plus i just traded for a used set of ATH ES7s, which has this warmth to it that i like a lot. The WS99s might be a bit too linear for me, so i am letting them go not cuz of those JVC SZ2/1Ks but due to not using them at all. Don't get me wrong i am more than happy to keep them, but just like the Fiio E17s I don't have any use for them sadly.

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