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post #5731 of 9939
12/26/12 at 1:34pm
Treble spikes between 3 and 5 kHz make the treble harsh/piercing and cheap sounding.  Spikes above 9 kHz do not hurt the treble quality nearly as much (if they do), because that is where the sweet treble is.  How are the FXZ100 and FXZ200 on that matter?
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post #5732 of 9939
12/26/12 at 1:49pm

Finally got my ELEs. Nice sound. Good sound stage. A little less bass than my stock dac on the this HP. That's a little disappointing. Oh well. Really good sound and at least I don't have to hear the clicking and buzzing in the background of onboard electronics.

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post #5733 of 9939
12/26/12 at 2:13pm
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Treble spikes between 3 and 5 kHz make the treble harsh/piercing and cheap sounding.  Spikes above 9 kHz do not hurt the treble quality nearly as much (if they do), because that is where the sweet treble is.  How are the FXZ100 and FXZ200 on that matter?


No treble spikes in that region that I can hear. This was happening on the FX101 and the FX3X. The FXZs however is a very nice refined sound. No harshness spiky stuff at all.

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post #5734 of 9939
12/26/12 at 3:58pm
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Treble spikes between 3 and 5 kHz make the treble harsh/piercing and cheap sounding.  Spikes above 9 kHz do not hurt the treble quality nearly as much (if they do), because that is where the sweet treble is.  How are the FXZ100 and FXZ200 on that matter?


No treble spikes in that region that I can hear. This was happening on the FX101 and the FX3X. The FXZs however is a very nice refined sound. No harshness spiky stuff at all.

Thank you!

The ATH-CKS77 have treble spike(s) in that frequency range. If those JVCs don't have any, then the treble should be a lot smoother (no harshness) on them as compared to the CKS77's treble. Is it smoother?
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post #5735 of 9939
12/26/12 at 4:01pm

It is smoother.  I have trouble with the AT's treble and don't find them harsh on the JVC's.

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post #5736 of 9939
12/26/12 at 4:12pm
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It is smoother.  I have trouble with the AT's treble and don't find them harsh on the JVC's.

Thank you.

I asked a good general interest question about those JVCs in the wrong thread (here) by accident. I meant to ask it again today on the right thread. I had already asked the question a few days ago (page 60), but no one answered it.
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post #5737 of 9939
12/26/12 at 4:17pm
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Thank you.
I asked a good general interest question about those JVCs in the wrong thread (here) by accident. I meant to ask it again today on the right thread. I had already asked the question a few days ago (page 60), but no one answered it.

I would have answered it but must have missed it.  

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post #5738 of 9939
12/26/12 at 4:32pm

Just received these today.  The new micro-driver AT CKN50's.  I've only let them burn for the last 5 hours so these are quick initial impressions.  

 

Bass:  Tight and controlled and reaches down to sub-bass levels.  I'd say somewhere between the JVC FXD70 and 80.  

 

Treble:  Has the AT house treble but I only hear sibilance on a rare occasion.  Certain other AT's, after burn-in, I still couldn't stand the harsh treble.  We'll see what happens after burn.  

 

Midrange:  Slightly recessed, still gives decent vocal presence but I actually would prefer more.  

 

The earphones fit nicely, not sure what the rubber hooks do but the housing is small and insertion can go deep.  It has a J-cord design.  Will throw up more impressions after a few days of burn.  

 

 

700

 

700

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post #5739 of 9939
12/26/12 at 6:22pm

A noobie question about using the ELE DAC without an amp, and controlling the volume on the PC:

 

Is it better to control the volume in the music player and keep the system master volume at max?  Or control the volume using the system master and keep the music player volume at max?  Or maybe it makes no difference??

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post #5740 of 9939
12/26/12 at 10:11pm
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It's a bit louder than the headphone jack, about 2 or 3 clicks. Its got plenty of juice to drive the mh1 and lower cans & iem.

That's good to know. I'll be using my S3 as my office rig. Our IT had all the PC's locked and wont accept my ELE when I plug it in. angry_face.gif


 

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post #5741 of 9939
12/26/12 at 10:38pm
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Dsnuts has tried the ELE with FiiO E11 and he said they work well together ;)

 

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*24 hours later* Every ELE DAC and E11 currently sold out online* tongue.gif


Hahahaha! I will take a look. I'm actually looking to get DT880's (250 or 600 Ohm) later. So my choice of amp will depend on that too.

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post #5742 of 9939
12/26/12 at 11:03pm

These came with my HP Laptop. Literally free earbuds...

 

What a pleasant surprise. ksc75smile.gif  If you have one of these, check them out. Can be had for as low as $5 on the 'bay.

 

 

 

 

 

700

 

 

(disclaimer: Pic above is not mine)

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post #5743 of 9939
12/27/12 at 7:47am
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These came with my HP Laptop. Literally free earbuds...

 

What a pleasant surprise. ksc75smile.gif  If you have one of these, check them out. Can be had for as low as $5 on the 'bay.

 

So can the she3580 :p

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post #5744 of 9939
12/27/12 at 9:57am

The more the merrier! beerchug.gif

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post #5745 of 9939
12/27/12 at 10:38am

I think I might get the ELE DAC to try it out, but the specs confuse me. It says the dynamic range is 100 dB... how is that possible when the bit depth is 16 bits? Has anyone done any real measurements?

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