The discovery thread!
Nov 28, 2012 at 1:49 PM Post #5,191 of 99,738
Let us know how that worked out for you. I am pretty sure it should as it uses a generic usb driver for sound..Which is a basic function for all computers and OS's so. Even smartphones should have no issues using one of these for a sound card.
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 2:10 PM Post #5,192 of 99,738
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Let us know how that worked out for you. I am pretty sure it should as it uses a generic usb driver for sound..Which is a basic function for all computers and OS's so. Even smartphones should have no issues using one of these for a sound card.

Hey Ds how can this lil' dac work with a smartphone??? Doesn't the audio/ power travel via usb cable while it is connected to a usb port, maybe I am not up to date with smartphones but have never seen phones with usb ports before so..... Or do you have to use a unique cable or something.
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 2:15 PM Post #5,193 of 99,738
Hey guys, I'm not sure how much of a 'discovery' this is is terms of really cheap stuff, but it looks like a behemoth USB to Coax / optical / I2S station.
 
It's new, and uses a chip I'm really curious about, the CM6631, selected in some very high-end designs and supporting up to 24/192 (the first one which ever did, actually).
 
 
It uses an external power supply and some high-speed buffers, with nice looking capacitors and a very nice layout.  It supports DTS via optical, so you can connect your laptop to an Onkyo receiver with 5.1 surround, or DVD-Audio (which sounds really amazing, like the Björk "surround" collection).
 
It just screams to me "the last USB converter you'll ever need".
 
 
 
NEW CM6631 USB to Coaxial Optical SPDIF I2S convertor for DAC w/ PSU 220V input
 
 
From China

 
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AU $76.45
+AU $12.44 shipping
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 2:27 PM Post #5,194 of 99,738
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Hey Ds how can this lil' dac work with a smartphone??? Doesn't the audio/ power travel via usb cable while it is connected to a usb port, maybe I am not up to date with smartphones but have never seen phones with usb ports before so..... Or do you have to use a unique cable or something.


Ya something like this. This is a USB OTG cable sold on ebay for $cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-Cable-2-0-B-Male-to-A-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-Google-Nexus-7-/350618370462?pt=US_USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item51a27bc19e Havent tried this myself but I have seen posts of guys using this adapter with their Galaxy S3 smartphones.
 
This pic is a guy that recently reviewed the Topping D1 portable dac/amp unit and has his phone hooked up to the unit.

 
Nov 28, 2012 at 2:34 PM Post #5,195 of 99,738
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Micro-USB-OTG-Cable-2-0-B-Male-to-A-Female-Adapter-Converter-for-Google-Nexus-7-/350618370462?pt=US_USB_Cables_Hubs_Adapters&hash=item51a27bc19e Havent tried this myself but I have seen posts of guys using this adapter with their Galaxy S3 smartphones.
 
This pic is a guy that recently reviewed the Topping D1 portable dac/amp unit and has his phone hooked up to the unit.

 
YMMV on this kind of setup though. This is a very new feature for smartphones. Earlier this year Android OS didn't even have support for it and I'm still looking for a windows phone that will support it.

One of the more recent responses I've seen from HTC: "I understand the importance of having an Output digital signal from the Micro USB port on your HTC HD7. Unfortunately, the Micro USB port does not support this function and you would need to use the 3.5mm headphone jack on the device to output media. I do apologize for any inconvenience that you may have experienced."
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 2:37 PM Post #5,197 of 99,738
Ya something like this. This is a USB OTG cable sold on ebay for $cheap.

 
 
This pic is a guy that recently reviewed the Topping D1 portable dac/amp unit and has his phone hooked up to the unit.

 
 
Yeah I read that Spanish review you linked, he seemed to like it!  I want the blue or green one!
 
By the way I just realised with a soldering iron and a knife, you could change the "Hifimediy Sabre" into a mini USB, and connect it directly to a smartphone =p
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM Post #5,199 of 99,738
By the way just wanted to say that new USB station I linked actually really IS cheap, when you look at how much the higher-end ones usually cost!  http://www.thewelltemperedcomputer.com/HW/USB_SPDIF.htm
 
I want to sell my Musiland Dragon and buy it right now >_>
 
Edit:  Wait you guys are mostly American and it's 220V only, so notice that.
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM Post #5,200 of 99,738
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Well the linage is the same Texas instruments/ Burr brown. The PCM2704 seems to be a do it all chip and I see different variations where they us the chip as the usb controller and for the dac section. Which is what is happening on the Ele dac.. Burson is using PCM1793. A chip I recently had in my Aune T1..It seems to be a standard on many Dac configurations. The PS Audio DLIII is using another burr brown Ti chip in the PCM1798    So all 3 are using Burr brown chips. But perhaps that is where the similarities end. The other units are much higher end and is way more complete and they better sound better than the ELe dac.
 
Now where does the Ele dac come in. Easy to use for better sound. No cords to plug in minus the USB. great sound and is way better than on board audio.. Those other units you mentioned all look like much higher end audio products. Again simplicity is the real win on the Ele dac. And I never suggest stuff that don't sound right.
 
Yes a little amp like a Cmoy will work perfect on the Ele dac.. Look forward to your results..

 
Wow, thanks for such a comprehensive response.
 
I'll let you know how it turns out, could take up to 3 weeks to get it in my hands since its coming from china to the USA with no special shipping.
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM Post #5,201 of 99,738
I was at one point considering buying a big lot of em just to ship out myself. But I am more of a discovery person not so much distribution person. Lol. Look forward to everyone's take on them Ele dacs..I showed this unit to my father who is quite handy with electronics and a soldering iron. 
 
He was asking me if I wanted a 3.5 input instead of USB.. So I can just hook up my DAPs to it ? Lol. It would be cool to see an upgraded unit with 3.5 in as well with USB but that is what portable dac/ amp units are for I suppose.
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:33 PM Post #5,203 of 99,738
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I was at one point considering buying a big lot of em just to ship out myself. But I am more of a discovery person not so much distribution person. Lol. Look forward to everyone's take on them Ele dacs..I showed this unit to my father who is quite handy with electronics and a soldering iron. 
 
He was asking me if I wanted a 3.5 input instead of USB.. So I can just hook up my DAPs to it ? Lol. It would be cool to see an upgraded unit with 3.5 in as well with USB but that is what portable dac/ amp units are for I suppose.

OMG Ds I want one with a 3.5mm input for my mp3 player so bad. Ask your old man to make me one. LoL If only the Fire Phoenix dac/amp had one, sigh. This would make the Ele a perfect on the go dac, but...... wait how can this lil' Ele dac power up if you replace the USB with a 3.5 input???
 
Nov 28, 2012 at 3:54 PM Post #5,205 of 99,738
Well they do make one like that it is called a E17. Recently on sale on Amazon for $112 or so.. I know we are treading on more expensive hardware. But I think we need to take these little audio devices for what they are and try not to extend them too much. These were made to use on your computers so that is what I am using them for. My Fiio E11 does an awesome job on the portable front if I need an amp on the go. To be honest getting a good dap with great sound quality is always best for portable use. I don't like lugging around extra stuff if I don't have to if you guys know what I mean.
 
My Z1060 sounds great with everything I have so I usually use that. Now when I am at my work place that is when things get a bit more interesting so far as my sources go..
 

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