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post #5866 of 6019
12/7/12 at 10:19am
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

 

I asked mattTCG about the extension in particular, and according to him, the LCD-2 should be more along the lines of a Denon, in which it's very strong down to the upper 20hz region, around 30hz.  HE-400 starts a gradual decline at 40hz, and its 30hz isn't as strong in comparison, if I'm getting that right.  Because there is less of it quantity wise, I assume it's more accurate.  HE-400 is a bit bass enhanced as it stands.  Square waves of LCD-2's bass show that it is very tight down low, thus will provide more authority there.

 

A lot of people have said LCD-2s bass is more impactful despite having less quantity, including Purrin.  I know it may be witchcraft to MadLustEnvy, but that's just the popular consensus on the LCD's bass.  HE-500 for instance, also has more bass quantity than LCD2 according to others.

 

Rumble I can't comment on.  I vaguely know what people mean by it, but it's a word that I rather not describe with music, as it's rather ambiguous.

 

This is pretty accurate on the bass comparison between the lcd2 and he400. But, the lcd3 is on an entirely different planet. I wouldn't even begin to make comparisons with it and the he400...it's just that much better.

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post #5867 of 6019
12/7/12 at 10:21am
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

Nice impressions jerg, thanks for that. I feel like the LCD3 would be the perfect upgrade from the HE400 for me. I like a dark headphone and some call the LCD3 the king of darkness.

 

Something else i found, the HE400 weighs 440 grams, the LCD2/3 weigh 550 grams. A lot of people mention how heavy the audeze phones are, but in all honesty if it's only 110 grams heavier than the HE400 then that would be fine for me. 

 

Anyway, sorry for the slight off topic, I just can't help but think..

 

Lol, that's a pretty huge amount actually. Heck, even the 60 g difference between HE500 and HE400s are pretty huge to my perception. HE500s are on the border of being too heavy for long-term listening for my neck, not quite but cutting it pretty close.

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post #5868 of 6019
12/7/12 at 10:34am
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

 

Lol, that's a pretty huge amount actually. Heck, even the 60 g difference between HE500 and HE400s are pretty huge to my perception. HE500s are on the border of being too heavy for long-term listening for my neck, not quite but cutting it pretty close.

 

I realize that may be a huge amount for most, but my skinny neck seems to have some godly muscles in it, the HE400 feel like a pillow on my head, so I think I'll be fine with the added weight biggrin.gif

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post #5869 of 6019
12/7/12 at 10:46am
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

 

I realize that may be a huge amount for most, but my skinny neck seems to have some godly muscles in it, the HE400 feel like a pillow on my head, so I think I'll be fine with the added weight biggrin.gif

Thing is, I have zero issues with HE400 either. It feels reasonably weighted. HE500s feel a heck of a lot heavier than 60g heavier, both in my hands and on my head, in comparison with HE400.

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post #5870 of 6019
12/7/12 at 11:52am

I have zero issues with the he400 also. But the he500 feels like a box of rocks on my head. And the lcd2 like two boxes of rocks. 

 

You have to understand that the human head is basically like an 8 pound bowling ball sitting on your neck. The last thing that I need another pound or so sitting up there. 


Edited by MattTCG - 12/7/12 at 11:54am
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post #5871 of 6019
12/7/12 at 11:55am
Well in the newer version of the he500 I have the headband has a sort of foam material inside to make it more comfortable than the previous edition which I had before and I see a big difference in comfortable.
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post #5872 of 6019
12/7/12 at 3:49pm
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Originally Posted by beaver316 View Post

I realize that may be a huge amount for most, but my skinny neck seems to have some godly muscles in it, the HE400 feel like a pillow on my head, so I think I'll be fine with the added weight biggrin.gif

The HE4 is like 96g lighter than the HE400, and the difference is huge. Another 110g over the he400 weight sounds torturous.
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post #5873 of 6019
12/7/12 at 6:08pm
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I've had the HE-400s for a few weeks now and Im completely satisfied, but Im already thinking about future upgrades lol.

Don't forget that HiFiMan has a new planar headphone model seemingly every month or two smile.gif .

 

Note that they previously had HE-4, HE-5 and HE-6 and now they've added HE-400, HE-500 and.... for those who can count, what do you think is next...o2smile.gif

 

By the way, I have heard NOTHING - just guessing - but note that HiFiMan has used the January CES to show new models.

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post #5874 of 6019
12/7/12 at 6:15pm

uuhhh  what the HE-6LEwink_face.gif

 

 

Got cha....

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post #5875 of 6019
12/7/12 at 6:27pm
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Originally Posted by kstuart View Post

Don't forget that HiFiMan has a new planar headphone model seemingly every month or two smile.gif .

 

Note that they previously had HE-4, HE-5 and HE-6 and now they've added HE-400, HE-500 and.... for those who can count, what do you think is next...o2smile.gif

 

By the way, I have heard NOTHING - just guessing - but note that HiFiMan has used the January CES to show new models.

They've shifted most R&D to their IEM and portable player lines at the moment, namely the RE400/600 dynamic IEMs, and the Hifiman HM901. Probably won't be another planar can for a while.

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post #5876 of 6019
12/7/12 at 11:55pm
I just asked in the other he 400 thread and i post here also
I don't get the same amount of bass between right and left channels and need to apply a 2 db to center low ends
I tried to switch, move the velour pads and also invert the way to put the he 400's and i can notice a difference

No problem with trebles

Is someone experience the same ?
Edited by TontonJoK - 12/7/12 at 11:57pm
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post #5877 of 6019
12/8/12 at 12:15am
Yes, which is why my HE400 is currently on its way to Head-Direct for a replacement.

The right driver had considerably more bass presence. The mids and treble were well balanced, meaning the two drivers had a different frequency curve in thd lower end, then matched up afterwards. Its frustrating really.
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post #5878 of 6019
12/8/12 at 12:34am
well, i'll test some sinewave tones with Sinegen but it will end up doing the same
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post #5879 of 6019
12/8/12 at 12:38am
too bad, it is more than 50 $ to send them back and i guess it will also take a while
Hoping Hifiman will take my request seriously
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post #5880 of 6019
12/8/12 at 12:48am
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Originally Posted by TontonJoK View Post

too bad, it is more than 50 $ to send them back and i guess it will also take a while
Hoping Hifiman will take my request seriously

 

They'll replace even if your reason is "my HE400 gave me the wrong look the other day".

 

In all seriousness though, channel imbalance is a pretty severe issue and they would be more than happy to replace it for you. Yeah the shipping cost kinda sucks. Be sure to stress that they have to test the replacement unit for great bass balance. That's what I asked with my HE500 that I replaced, and the replacement has insane channel balance even down to 20 Hz.

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