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post #5566 of 6020
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P

The HD650 does have better mids and vocals, but the HE400 does a great job with thay too, and its more lovely in the bass and energy. I would always prefer the HE400 over the HD650 if I could only own one. The HE400 does many more things better than the HD650, but they are pretty comparable overall.

If its a rough tonal balance comparison, youre basically trading off some mids for more weight, energy, and imaging. The HE400 is more special than the HD650, but the HD650 does have some truly amazing vocals.
post #5567 of 6020

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

You're doing it wrong.  Kpop needs a good monitor to watch it more than a headphone to listen to it.

 

Well, if that's not completely offensive to people who find substance in their native music and can actually interpret their lyrics, I don't know what is. 

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

Don't think so..  I think the Qs measure better.  The Qs are more balanced across spectrum.  However, the 400s are much more fun to listen to. IMO.

 

Really? I thought the HE-400s measured better in regards to everything other than FR? Someone correct me on this?

post #5568 of 6020
The Q701 is definitely more balanced and behaved than the HE400, but not nearly as musical.
post #5569 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

 

Well, if that's not completely offensive to people who find substance in their native music and can actually interpret their lyrics, I don't know what is. 

 

 

 

Only if you took it that way.  To me understanding the lyrics in a kpop song makes no difference or not.  Actually once I looked up the lyrics to Gagnam style, I didn't like it as much.  The true literal beauty behind kpop is definitely watching the girl bands dance around though.

post #5570 of 6020

Hello forum. I'm kind of a newbie to headphones. I have pretty much made my choice as to what sound receiver and headphones I plan on getting but I'm not sure which amp to get, or if I even need an amp to begin with. This is primarly for gaming and movies. I asked around and after many suggestions and research on my part I plan on getting the Yamaha RX-A720 sound receiver and the Hifiman HE-400.

 

Now, sorry if these questions sound stupid, like I said I'm really new to all this. I've been told that amps can bring a lot of defitnition and power to sound. I understand that for, say, something like an Ipod, which can't generate a lot of power, an amp would be very useful. The other day I tried my senheiser 495 that I bought a long time ago, on an Ipod Nano and I was able to crank up the volume to the max without the sound being too loud. So obviously it's a device not powerful enough to make that kind of headphones really sing. But if we're talking about a home theater sound receiver, the way I understand it, that kind of machine has more then enough power to get the most out of any kind of headphones. Now, am I right in thinking that? Would an amp like the Hi-Fi Man EF2A Tube USB DAC Headphone Amp

 

 http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Fi-Man-EF2A-Tube-Headphone/dp/B004357WL8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1353879031&sr=8-4&keywords=hifiman+he-400

 

still make a noticable difference in sound?

 

And lastly, how would I go about setting this up? Would this kind of device go in-between my sound receiver and my headphones? Thanks for any input.

post #5571 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

 

 

Only if you took it that way.  To me understanding the lyrics in a kpop song makes no difference or not.  Actually once I looked up the lyrics to Gagnam style, I didn't like it as much.  The true literal beauty behind kpop is definitely watching the girl bands dance around though.

If Psy and girl idol bands represents all of Korean pop music as a whole....

 

There's going to be overproduced music based purely on image in any country or language. Saying that's all there is to it is just overgeneralizing. There's more to KPop than riding air horses and singing about genies and geeing in skimpy outfits. 

post #5572 of 6020
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Originally Posted by clem84 View Post

Hello forum. I'm kind of a newbie to headphones. I have pretty much made my choice as to what sound receiver and headphones I plan on getting but I'm not sure which amp to get, or if I even need an amp to begin with. This is primarly for gaming and movies. I asked around and after many suggestions and research on my part I plan on getting the Yamaha RX-A720 sound receiver and the Hifiman HE-400.

 

Now, sorry if these questions sound stupid, like I said I'm really new to all this. I've been told that amps can bring a lot of defitnition and power to sound. I understand that for, say, something like an Ipod, which can't generate a lot of power, an amp would be very useful. The other day I tried my senheiser 495 that I bought a long time ago, on an Ipod Nano and I was able to crank up the volume to the max without the sound being too loud. So obviously it's a device not powerful enough to make that kind of headphones really sing. But if we're talking about a home theater sound receiver, the way I understand it, that kind of machine has more then enough power to get the most out of any kind of headphones. Now, am I right in thinking that? Would an amp like the Hi-Fi Man EF2A Tube USB DAC Headphone Amp

 

 http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Fi-Man-EF2A-Tube-Headphone/dp/B004357WL8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1353879031&sr=8-4&keywords=hifiman+he-400

 

still make a noticable difference in sound?

 

And lastly, how would I go about setting this up? Would this kind of device go in-between my sound receiver and my headphones? Thanks for any input.  

 

I'd say it probably won't be as drastic of a difference in sound that you'd be made to believe it would be.  Even with headphones like 600Ω beyers or the 'very hard to amp right' HD650 sound pretty good off iPods and whatnot.  You can save some money and get a cheaper amp and that would be just fine with the HE-400.

post #5573 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

 

I'd say it probably won't be as drastic of a difference in sound that you'd be made to believe it would be.  Even with headphones like 600Ω beyers or the 'very hard to amp right' HD650 sound pretty good off iPods and whatnot.  You can save some money and get a cheaper amp and that would be just fine with the HE-400.

Thanks for the reply. Is there one in particular you would recommend?

post #5574 of 6020
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

The Q701 is definitely more balanced and behaved than the HE400, but not nearly as musical.

 

 

Yep...   ^^^This^^^

post #5575 of 6020
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Originally Posted by clem84 View Post

Hello forum. I'm kind of a newbie to headphones. I have pretty much made my choice as to what sound receiver and headphones I plan on getting but I'm not sure which amp to get, or if I even need an amp to begin with. This is primarly for gaming and movies. I asked around and after many suggestions and research on my part I plan on getting the Yamaha RX-A720 sound receiver and the Hifiman HE-400.

 

Now, sorry if these questions sound stupid, like I said I'm really new to all this. I've been told that amps can bring a lot of defitnition and power to sound. I understand that for, say, something like an Ipod, which can't generate a lot of power, an amp would be very useful. The other day I tried my senheiser 495 that I bought a long time ago, on an Ipod Nano and I was able to crank up the volume to the max without the sound being too loud. So obviously it's a device not powerful enough to make that kind of headphones really sing. But if we're talking about a home theater sound receiver, the way I understand it, that kind of machine has more then enough power to get the most out of any kind of headphones. Now, am I right in thinking that? Would an amp like the Hi-Fi Man EF2A Tube USB DAC Headphone Amp

 

 http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Fi-Man-EF2A-Tube-Headphone/dp/B004357WL8/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1353879031&sr=8-4&keywords=hifiman+he-400

 

still make a noticable difference in sound?

 

And lastly, how would I go about setting this up? Would this kind of device go in-between my sound receiver and my headphones? Thanks for any input.

If I were you, and I had about $1000 to spend on this setup. I'd probably go for the HE-400's, the Schiit Lyr, and a JDS Labs ODAC and skip the receiver altogether and listen from your computer.

post #5576 of 6020
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Originally Posted by Sniping View Post

If I were you, and I had about $1000 to spend on this setup. I'd probably go for the HE-400's, the Schiit Lyr, and a JDS Labs ODAC and skip the receiver altogether and listen from your computer.

I need a new receiver for my home theater. The one I have is like 20 years old :). No joke. The primary uses for the headphones/receiver I'll be buying are console gaming and movies, and it's for the living room. I'm not even sure what a JDS labs ODAC is and what it's supposed to do :). At this point I'm leaning more toward the Yamaha RX-A720 and Hifiman 400. The only question I had is whether or not an amp would have made a noticable improvement in my setup, enough to warrant the purchase. Apparantly that's not the case. I haven't completely made up my mind yet. I'm still looking. Thanks for the suggestions though, always appreciated.

post #5577 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

You're doing it wrong.  Kpop needs a good monitor to watch it more than a headphone to listen to it.

+1

True haha

post #5578 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

If Psy and girl idol bands represents all of Korean pop music as a whole....

 

There's going to be overproduced music based purely on image in any country or language. Saying that's all there is to it is just overgeneralizing. There's more to KPop than riding air horses and singing about genies and geeing in skimpy outfits. 

 

Yes, yes.  If I'm not mistaken, there's more boy bands and male singers in kpop than females and girl groups as well.  We all know and love (to watch) the girl groups tho!

post #5579 of 6020
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Originally Posted by haquocdung View Post

+1

True haha

Do we really need to bring this up again? You're basically putting down an entire culture's music by overgeneralizing. I could make sweeping claims about how all american music has no actual content, or how European music is utter trash. That's simply not true. Can you not say that there are overproduced, visual-heavy aspects in any other country's music? What about all the other musically creative artists that you dismiss simply because they're categorized within a genre that you feel not worth your time? It's fun to be "edgy" and put down stuff just for the sake of feeling superior. It's also childish, insensitive, and you'd expect better on a public, international forum. 

 

To put it in audio terms, you'd be laughing at people who like headphones in general just because fashion-oriented headphones like Beats exist.

 

Go here. If you can honestly say that you find no musical or lyrical content worth your time in anything presented there...

post #5580 of 6020

After having listened exclusively to the HE500s for the past 3 days, switching to the HE400s were a big wow moment for me.

 

The energy in the treble and bass on these are just so much more exhilarating compared to the smoother tamer HE500 sound. Listening to some Metallica S&M right now I cannot imagine ever getting rid of these, even if I keep the HE500s as well.

 

These (HE400) bring life to rock / metal just like how HE500 brings live to vocal and acoustic.

 

The two have very complementary sound signatures; just like HE400 + HD650, except maybe the HE500s are a bit more technically superior than HD650s.

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