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post #5551 of 6017
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

hi guys.

iam planning to buy a HE400.

 

Using odac+o2

 

is this headphone good for asian pop, kpop, jpop, cpop, ballad, female vocal music ?i listen mainly to those.

or should i search for something else ?

 

In my experience, there is not a "bad" genre for these hp's. They are a great all rounder...

post #5552 of 6017
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


So, so true.

+2

post #5553 of 6017

****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P

post #5554 of 6017
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P

Yes, but the bass and slam on HE-400 is top notch. The Sen HD650 can't match. 

With Kpop, you need the bass to be there. Expect vocals, where Sen HD650 will outperform the HE-400, with the rest of your genes, HE-400 wins.

post #5555 of 6017

You're doing it wrong.  Kpop needs a good monitor to watch it more than a headphone to listen to it.

post #5556 of 6017

Ive been messing with the EQ all day trying to see what works best, and honestly I'm sick of it lol. EQing down the highs chokes the sound a little, EQing up the mids doesn't seem to bring forth a noticeable change to female vocals.

 

I'll just stick to how Hifiman intended these to sound and enjoy the dam music. 

post #5557 of 6017

Use uncompressed pink noise.  You won't get it right on the first try though, it takes a little experience.

post #5558 of 6017
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

I can say that the HE-400s are just simply more technically proficient than the Q701. Not having heard the others though. If you're solely intent on listening to those genres though, you might be better off with the HD600/650.

 

 

Don't think so..  I think the Qs measure better.  The Qs are more balanced across spectrum.  However, the 400s are much more fun to listen to. IMO.

post #5559 of 6017
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Use uncompressed pink noise.  You won't get it right on the first try though, it takes a little experience.

I tried that but I don't know what I should be making to sound like, mainly because I don't hear what's wrong with it to begin with.
post #5560 of 6017

Each octave of the pink noise gives off very distinct sounds/textures.  If you play around with the gain on certain frequencies in your EQ, you can learn what each area of the fr sounds like.  Ideally you want as much volume/energy in each octave, and none should mask each other.  For example, when first booting up the pink noise with HE-400, it was very apparent the 16khz region was a bit overpowering.  With this method, it's very easy to discern peaks in a fr,but hard to discern nulls, which is what the HE-400 has in its upper mids.  As with a lot of things, it takes experience.

post #5561 of 6017
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Each octave of the pink noise gives off very distinct sounds/textures.  If you play around with the gain on certain frequencies in your EQ, you can learn what each area of the fr sounds like.  Ideally you want as much volume/energy in each octave, and none should mask each other.  For example, when first booting up the pink noise with HE-400, it was very apparent the 16khz region was a bit overpowering.  With this method, it's very easy to discern peaks in a fr,but hard to discern nulls, which is what the HE-400 has in its upper mids.  As with a lot of things, it takes experience.

Yes I quickly realized my lack of experience here may be a problem. I may give it a second go later. I'm just a little surprised there hasn't already been a upper mid 'fix' already posted in this thread, this headphone has been around a while. I know most audiophiles are against using EQ, but when it comes to fixing problem areas I see nothing wrong with it.
post #5562 of 6017
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Yes I quickly realized my lack of experience here may be a problem. I may give it a second go later. I'm just a little surprised there hasn't already been a upper mid 'fix' already posted in this thread, this headphone has been around a while. I know most audiophiles are against using EQ, but when it comes to fixing problem areas I see nothing wrong with it.

 

If anyone has an advanced EQ settings file that has been MEASURED to flatten out the HE-400 frequency response, that would be VERY much appreciated! I use the EQ in Foobar2000 with values I just picked that I subjectively like, but if someone has an Electri-Q file or something along those lines with more advanced techniques used to provide a level mids and treble, it would be fantastic.

post #5563 of 6017
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P

The HD650 does have better mids and vocals, but the HE400 does a great job with thay too, and its more lovely in the bass and energy. I would always prefer the HE400 over the HD650 if I could only own one. The HE400 does many more things better than the HD650, but they are pretty comparable overall.

If its a rough tonal balance comparison, youre basically trading off some mids for more weight, energy, and imaging. The HE400 is more special than the HD650, but the HD650 does have some truly amazing vocals.
post #5564 of 6017

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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

You're doing it wrong.  Kpop needs a good monitor to watch it more than a headphone to listen to it.

 

Well, if that's not completely offensive to people who find substance in their native music and can actually interpret their lyrics, I don't know what is. 

 

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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

 

Don't think so..  I think the Qs measure better.  The Qs are more balanced across spectrum.  However, the 400s are much more fun to listen to. IMO.

 

Really? I thought the HE-400s measured better in regards to everything other than FR? Someone correct me on this?

post #5565 of 6017
The Q701 is definitely more balanced and behaved than the HE400, but not nearly as musical.
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