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post #5551 of 6020
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

actually i own the HD650 :P but feel like something is missing, its good but cant put a smile in my face :P

Upgrade? The HE-400 is more of a sidegrade to the HD650. Maybe try the HE-500/LCD-2?

post #5552 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

Upgrade? The HE-400 is more of a sidegrade to the HD650.

So, so true.
post #5553 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

Just bump 2.5-4.5kHz up 3-4dB, unless you have the grill mods (then it'd be 2-3dB). A more accurate way would be to do some frequency sweeps and the likes to find the offending areas yourself.

 

I bumped up the areas you mentioned, honestly i can't hear a difference.

 

edit: perhaps there is a difference, but it's so subtle and almost unnoticeable, it makes me wonder if there was even a problem with the upper mids in the first place.

 

 

 

 

upper-mid bump.zip 1k .zip file

 

 

Can someone test it and make sure i've done this correctly?


Edited by beaver316 - 11/25/12 at 4:23am
post #5554 of 6020
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

hi guys.

iam planning to buy a HE400.

 

Using odac+o2

 

is this headphone good for asian pop, kpop, jpop, cpop, ballad, female vocal music ?i listen mainly to those.

or should i search for something else ?

 

In my experience, there is not a "bad" genre for these hp's. They are a great all rounder...

post #5555 of 6020
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post


So, so true.

+2

post #5556 of 6020

****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P

post #5557 of 6020
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Originally Posted by oopeteroo View Post

****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P

Yes, but the bass and slam on HE-400 is top notch. The Sen HD650 can't match. 

With Kpop, you need the bass to be there. Expect vocals, where Sen HD650 will outperform the HE-400, with the rest of your genes, HE-400 wins.

post #5558 of 6020

You're doing it wrong.  Kpop needs a good monitor to watch it more than a headphone to listen to it.

post #5559 of 6020

Ive been messing with the EQ all day trying to see what works best, and honestly I'm sick of it lol. EQing down the highs chokes the sound a little, EQing up the mids doesn't seem to bring forth a noticeable change to female vocals.

 

I'll just stick to how Hifiman intended these to sound and enjoy the dam music. 

post #5560 of 6020

Use uncompressed pink noise.  You won't get it right on the first try though, it takes a little experience.

post #5561 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TwinQY View Post

I can say that the HE-400s are just simply more technically proficient than the Q701. Not having heard the others though. If you're solely intent on listening to those genres though, you might be better off with the HD600/650.

 

 

Don't think so..  I think the Qs measure better.  The Qs are more balanced across spectrum.  However, the 400s are much more fun to listen to. IMO.

post #5562 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Use uncompressed pink noise.  You won't get it right on the first try though, it takes a little experience.

I tried that but I don't know what I should be making to sound like, mainly because I don't hear what's wrong with it to begin with.
post #5563 of 6020

Each octave of the pink noise gives off very distinct sounds/textures.  If you play around with the gain on certain frequencies in your EQ, you can learn what each area of the fr sounds like.  Ideally you want as much volume/energy in each octave, and none should mask each other.  For example, when first booting up the pink noise with HE-400, it was very apparent the 16khz region was a bit overpowering.  With this method, it's very easy to discern peaks in a fr,but hard to discern nulls, which is what the HE-400 has in its upper mids.  As with a lot of things, it takes experience.

post #5564 of 6020
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Originally Posted by TMRaven View Post

Each octave of the pink noise gives off very distinct sounds/textures.  If you play around with the gain on certain frequencies in your EQ, you can learn what each area of the fr sounds like.  Ideally you want as much volume/energy in each octave, and none should mask each other.  For example, when first booting up the pink noise with HE-400, it was very apparent the 16khz region was a bit overpowering.  With this method, it's very easy to discern peaks in a fr,but hard to discern nulls, which is what the HE-400 has in its upper mids.  As with a lot of things, it takes experience.

Yes I quickly realized my lack of experience here may be a problem. I may give it a second go later. I'm just a little surprised there hasn't already been a upper mid 'fix' already posted in this thread, this headphone has been around a while. I know most audiophiles are against using EQ, but when it comes to fixing problem areas I see nothing wrong with it.
post #5565 of 6020
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Yes I quickly realized my lack of experience here may be a problem. I may give it a second go later. I'm just a little surprised there hasn't already been a upper mid 'fix' already posted in this thread, this headphone has been around a while. I know most audiophiles are against using EQ, but when it comes to fixing problem areas I see nothing wrong with it.

 

If anyone has an advanced EQ settings file that has been MEASURED to flatten out the HE-400 frequency response, that would be VERY much appreciated! I use the EQ in Foobar2000 with values I just picked that I subjectively like, but if someone has an Electri-Q file or something along those lines with more advanced techniques used to provide a level mids and treble, it would be fantastic.

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