Upgrade? The HE-400 is more of a sidegrade to the HD650. Maybe try the HE-500/LCD-2?
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So, so true.post #5553 of 601911/25/12 at 4:10am- beaver316
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Quote:I bumped up the areas you mentioned, honestly i can't hear a difference.
edit: perhaps there is a difference, but it's so subtle and almost unnoticeable, it makes me wonder if there was even a problem with the upper mids in the first place.
upper-mid bump.zip 1k .zip fileCan someone test it and make sure i've done this correctly?
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Quote:In my experience, there is not a "bad" genre for these hp's. They are a great all rounder...
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post #5556 of 601911/25/12 at 6:29am****, read that the HD650 is better on mids and vocals, hmmm what should i do ?:P should i order the he400 ?:P
post #5557 of 601911/25/12 at 7:09amQuote:Yes, but the bass and slam on HE-400 is top notch. The Sen HD650 can't match.
With Kpop, you need the bass to be there. Expect vocals, where Sen HD650 will outperform the HE-400, with the rest of your genes, HE-400 wins.
post #5558 of 601911/25/12 at 7:24amYou're doing it wrong. Kpop needs a good monitor to watch it more than a headphone to listen to it.
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Ive been messing with the EQ all day trying to see what works best, and honestly I'm sick of it lol. EQing down the highs chokes the sound a little, EQing up the mids doesn't seem to bring forth a noticeable change to female vocals.
I'll just stick to how Hifiman intended these to sound and enjoy the dam music.
post #5560 of 601911/25/12 at 7:43amUse uncompressed pink noise. You won't get it right on the first try though, it takes a little experience.
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Quote:Don't think so.. I think the Qs measure better. The Qs are more balanced across spectrum. However, the 400s are much more fun to listen to. IMO.
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I tried that but I don't know what I should be making to sound like, mainly because I don't hear what's wrong with it to begin with.post #5563 of 601911/25/12 at 8:32amEach octave of the pink noise gives off very distinct sounds/textures. If you play around with the gain on certain frequencies in your EQ, you can learn what each area of the fr sounds like. Ideally you want as much volume/energy in each octave, and none should mask each other. For example, when first booting up the pink noise with HE-400, it was very apparent the 16khz region was a bit overpowering. With this method, it's very easy to discern peaks in a fr,but hard to discern nulls, which is what the HE-400 has in its upper mids. As with a lot of things, it takes experience.
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Quote:Originally Posted by TMRaven
Each octave of the pink noise gives off very distinct sounds/textures. If you play around with the gain on certain frequencies in your EQ, you can learn what each area of the fr sounds like. Ideally you want as much volume/energy in each octave, and none should mask each other. For example, when first booting up the pink noise with HE-400, it was very apparent the 16khz region was a bit overpowering. With this method, it's very easy to discern peaks in a fr,but hard to discern nulls, which is what the HE-400 has in its upper mids. As with a lot of things, it takes experience.
Yes I quickly realized my lack of experience here may be a problem. I may give it a second go later. I'm just a little surprised there hasn't already been a upper mid 'fix' already posted in this thread, this headphone has been around a while. I know most audiophiles are against using EQ, but when it comes to fixing problem areas I see nothing wrong with it.post #5565 of 601911/25/12 at 9:23amQuote:Yes I quickly realized my lack of experience here may be a problem. I may give it a second go later. I'm just a little surprised there hasn't already been a upper mid 'fix' already posted in this thread, this headphone has been around a while. I know most audiophiles are against using EQ, but when it comes to fixing problem areas I see nothing wrong with it.If anyone has an advanced EQ settings file that has been MEASURED to flatten out the HE-400 frequency response, that would be VERY much appreciated! I use the EQ in Foobar2000 with values I just picked that I subjectively like, but if someone has an Electri-Q file or something along those lines with more advanced techniques used to provide a level mids and treble, it would be fantastic.
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