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post #4576 of 6020
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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

I had the same feeling about my HE400 for a while.  The trick is to NOT switch headphones in one session.  Just stay with one HP, your ears will adjust and you should really start to hear and enjoy them. I pretty much went through the same thing when I got my HD700.  Switching back and forth, I was ready to sell the HE400 on the spot.  Just sticking to one HP for a session or even a few days lets you really appreciate them for what they are.  Give it a try. YMMV.

 

I myself am in the process of doing this very thing. I got my HE-400 yesterday, and I'll give them a full week and a half or so before making a definitive decision. I'm a Grado fan (SR60i atm, may grab an RS2i in the future), so that is my point of reference.

These sound so utterly different from Grados. But, after acclimating the sound, there are some things I really have come to appreciate about the HE-400 over the Grados:

 

- The bass! Oh the flat, level, beautifully textured, full-yet-not-bloated bass! It's accuracy is just lovely to me. And this is coming from someone who considers themselves a treble-head and quite far from a bass-head.

- The smoothness of the upper mids! Now I fully understand the term "shouty" when people use it to describe Grados. Whereas Grados make male vocals peaky and edgy, vocals on the HE-400 sound utterly smooth and level. I have found that, on certain songs, I had become accustomed to mentally preparing for sharpness during specific parts while using the SR60i. Now, those parts come smooth and inviting on the HE-400, instead of sharp and intruding.
- The imaging! Everything sounds more correctly positioned, defined, and separated with the HE-400. The Grado SR60i sounds like a tossed salad of instruments by comparison.

But hey, even tossed salad can taste good with the right dressing, or in the case the right music selection. I find Grado still hits the pleasure button with rock and various rock-related genres. They have an energy and toe-tapping grooviness to them that can't be wrought with a more neutral headphone like the HE-400. I'll have to visit the local shop next weekend when I get a chance and compare the HE-400 head on to something a little more its own size - the RS2i.

 

I'm liking this HE-400, but not sure I'm "loving" it. I'm eager to compare it to the RS2i.

post #4577 of 6020

I'm actually the opposite, I sold my DT880s after I got my HD650. I picked up the HE-400 just to give it a try and I'm really liking it so far. The only thing I miss the most about the DT880s is the comfort. 

post #4578 of 6020

Ugh, the more I listen to the treble of the new drivers, the more I develop a very polarizing love-hate relationship with them.

 

On one end, the elevated 10-16kHz makes instrumental music ridiculously holographic and engaging, almost like my ears physically feel the sound pressures of when cymbals crash and strings pluck, coupled with the fantastic bass, the whole package is there to over-deliver in jazz music and the like.

 

But on the very other hand, this messes with vocals big time; every singer sounds like their vocal cords have turned to needles and dry sand.

post #4579 of 6020

Kind of did this with switching back and forth between the HD-650's.

 

It really isn't a good thing to jump back and forth between the two. Now I'm having a hard time listening to my HE-400's. Blargh. 

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Originally Posted by MickeyVee View Post

I had the same feeling about my HE400 for a while.  The trick is to NOT switch headphones in one session.  Just stay with one HP, your ears will adjust and you should really start to hear and enjoy them. I pretty much went through the same thing when I got my HD700.  Switching back and forth, I was ready to sell the HE400 on the spot.  Just sticking to one HP for a session or even a few days lets you really appreciate them for what they are.  Give it a try. YMMV.

 

post #4580 of 6020
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Originally Posted by satanigatan View Post

Kind of did this with switching back and forth between the HD-650's.

 

It really isn't a good thing to jump back and forth between the two. Now I'm having a hard time listening to my HE-400's. Blargh. 

I had similar experience btn 400s and 650s when swapping.  Hard to do.  Takes me about 30 mins to apprecieate either one again. 

post #4581 of 6020

The new drivers have scared me away from considering the HE-400 for now...Coming from a PRO 900, once bitten twice shy...

post #4582 of 6020
Now I'm scared also.

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post #4583 of 6020
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Originally Posted by SIDWULF View Post

The new drivers have scared me away from considering the HE-400 for now...Coming from a PRO 900, once bitten twice shy...

 

Im exactly in the same situation!

 

Except I want to get the HE-500 to complement them :)

 

Cant get more piercing than Pro 900 though... You shouldnt be scared! Nothing stand against the sibilance of the Pros!

Anything else will say smooth to your ears :D Except for Grados maybe

post #4584 of 6020
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Originally Posted by SIDWULF View Post

The new drivers have scared me away from considering the HE-400 for now...Coming from a PRO 900, once bitten twice shy...

 

Damn you. Now i can't stop singing Wham! - Last Christmas in my head / bathroom

post #4585 of 6020
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Originally Posted by yokken View Post

I had them on for about 4 hours. I acclimated to them, and they sound nice and all, but the DT880s just win overall. Nothing like something you don't quite like as much as you thought you would to make you really appreciate something else. Just switching to the DT880s, I think the HE400s might actually have more treble, which blows my mind... they're definitely hot in that area. I think I'm going to like the HD600s better, purely because I know they aren't going to be as bright as the DT880s, and I got them for just that reason.

 

Wow!! Of course we all hear differently. If anyone asked me, I'd say that the he400 completed trounces the dt880 and I'm certainly a Beyer fan. Comfort would go to the Beyer but that's it. The Beyer dt880 is plain vanilla and neutral. That's certainly not what I'm after. Each to his own....

post #4586 of 6020

Got my HE-400s 2 months back, loving them! Buying the velours next week to check out what the excitement is about.. o2smile.gif
On another note, what are your methods of attaching the cable interconnects to the headphone? :D

I always twist them in the other direction and then connect them, so once they complete their twisting they're straight without any extra twists.

post #4587 of 6020

That's how I did it. wink.gif

post #4588 of 6020
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

Wow!! Of course we all hear differently. If anyone asked me, I'd say that the he400 completed trounces the dt880 and I'm certainly a Beyer fan. Comfort would go to the Beyer but that's it. The Beyer dt880 is plain vanilla and neutral. That's certainly not what I'm after. Each to his own....

Maybe he has the rev3 if so that would explain it all. Lol

My brief run in with rev3 reminded me of an Akg 7 series with a touch more bass n a screaming high end. Some have had the revision3 for a week or two. I after10 seconds of listening knew they where different from rev2 and 4 mins 50 seconds to take em off my head and never want to try them again because of the ear ache it gave "pain".
Edited by I95North - 10/5/12 at 1:40pm
post #4589 of 6020
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Originally Posted by I95North View Post


Maybe he has the rev3 if so that would explain it all. Lol
My brief run in with rev3 reminded me of an Akg 7 series with a touch more bass n a screaming high end. Some have had the revision3 for a week or two. I after10 seconds of listening knew they where different from rev2 and 4 mins 50 seconds to take em off my head and never want to try them again because of the ear ache it gave "pain".

 

That's a shame really. I don't see the point in revising that driver. The problems with it were minor with regard to defect. This could really blow up and swing all the momentum away from an otherwise outstanding hp. HFM should react quickly to this one. We'll see...

 

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post #4590 of 6020
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Originally Posted by MattTCG View Post

That's a shame really. I don't see the point in revising that driver. The problems with it were minor with regard to defect. This could really blow up and swing all the momentum away from an otherwise outstanding hp. HFM should react quickly to this one. We'll see...

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I agree with you 110%..

People of revision3 are already starting to have buyers remorse..
Edited by I95North - 10/5/12 at 2:36pm
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