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post #4486 of 6020
I can't speak for the D7000s, but the HE-400 rev 2 make the D2000's treble not airy or extended in comparison. I'd try getting some songs with lots of high treble in the air range.
post #4487 of 6020

Yes, it's a sandy color, so Rev 3 it is. One of them is actually kind of "splotchy" with sandy plastic with light grey swirls in it, the other side is pure sandy.

 


Edited by palmfish - 10/2/12 at 9:33pm
post #4488 of 6020
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 More fun than the Senns, but "less" fun than the Denon's 

Dude you just hit the nail on the head, that's exactly what I found to be the case. I would choose the 650 over my D5000's though if that matters.

 

 


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P.S. I found a way of increasing bass extension with these babies: just play a sinewave tone at say 30Hz or 25Hz, as loud as possible without the driver producing distortions, over night; by morning it'd have loosened up / "burned in" enough to have better subbass response.
I can't believe i'm willing to try this...

Edited by RushNerd - 10/2/12 at 9:30pm
post #4489 of 6020
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Yes, it's a sandy color, so Rev 3 it is. One of them is actually kind of "splotchy" with sandy plastic with grey swirls in it, the other side is pure sandy.

Do you note a slight metallic tinge to the treble with certain vocals?

post #4490 of 6020

I had a similar characterization of the HE-400 when I first heard it too.  I said it was something like HD650's more athletically gifted, but less refined, adolescent brother.

post #4491 of 6020
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I can't speak for the D7000s, but the HE-400 rev 2 make the D2000's treble not airy or extended in comparison. I'd try getting some songs with lots of high treble in the air range.


My daughter has D2000's, which as you may know, sound a little warmer than the D7000's. Actually, to my ears, except for the added bass, the D2000's and HE-400's actually have a very similar sound. The D2000's and HE-400's both have a brightness to them, it just seems in a different treble range. The HE-400's are maybe brighter a little lower in the treble (3-4 kHz?) and the D2000's a little higher up (6-7kHz?). Just wild-ass speculating for now - I haven't had enough time with the HE-400's yet and my ears are really tired.

post #4492 of 6020
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Do you note a slight metallic tinge to the treble with certain vocals?


No, I haven't heard that. But again, I've only done a very little casual listening with tired ears.

 

Can you give me some specific examples to listen to? I'll pull them up on MOG and listen to them tomorrow.

post #4493 of 6020
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I had a similar characterization of the HE-400 when I first heard it too.  I said it was something like HD650's more athletically gifted, but less refined, adolescent brother.


Yes, I remember that now that you mention it. At the time, I didn't at all agree with you, but that turns out to be because my "early Beta" examples sound was way off what you were hearing. FWIW, I've never liked the HD 650, but very much like the HD 600 - night and day difference to my ears.

post #4494 of 6020

3-4khz is in the upper midrange, which makes sense, because it's what the Denons lack the most.  The (D2000 at least) is very pronounced and plasticy sounding in the 6-7khz lower treble region too.

 

Hope you can find some songs with lots of information in the 12-15khz range.

post #4495 of 6020

Well, I just threw those numbers out to illustrate how I perceive the difference in treble between the D2000 and HE-400. I am talking about treble though. Another way to say it is, for me, the Denon treble is a little steely sounding compared to the HE-400, which sound more organic.

 

I don't know. Give me more time to listen and think about what I'm hearing.

post #4496 of 6020
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Well, I just threw those numbers out to illustrate how I perceive the difference in treble between the D2000 and HE-400. I am talking about treble though. Another way to say it is, for me, the Denon treble is a little steely sounding compared to the HE-400, which sound more organic.

 

I don't know. Give me more time to listen and think about what I'm hearing.

I have been noticing tonight, when I can focus on the music and there isn't much background noise at all, I can pretty much hear new stuff in most songs, or at least like radio songs i've heard a bajzillon times. The amount of detail is quite engaging.

post #4497 of 6020

How do I make these darn headphones feel more comfortable? After an hour the headband's pressure irritates the top of my head. 

post #4498 of 6020
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I have been noticing tonight, when I can focus on the music and there isn't much background noise at all, I can pretty much hear new stuff in most songs, or at least like radio songs i've heard a bajzillon times. The amount of detail is quite engaging.

 

The HE400s definitely have very good detail resolution and like you I can hear more. I was always sceptical that different equipment could let you hear more, but you really can. Conversely I am finding that poor recordings or rips are more noticeable!

 

From what I understand, I think it is because the driver is relatively easy to move, due to the nature of the planar magnetic field, and can therefore pick up and communicate the intricacies better?

post #4499 of 6020

Hey, looks like I might hang out in this thread for a while since I just bought new HE-400 where I was upgrading from the M-50 as per my initial thread biggrin.gif.

 

Initial impressions , truthfully I was not blown away like the first time I heard a real good pair of headphones (M50) and the leather pads make me sweat faster than the M50 pads.

 

Still a newbie for a short review acoustically so probably will just watch the thread as a spectator most of the time , but what I can tell is it is a great cans soundwise. Pretty sure they are worth the bucks spent!

 

Moving on to burning in these babies beyersmile.png....

post #4500 of 6020
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Do you note a slight metallic tinge to the treble with certain vocals?

 

I did and it was annoying after a really short while.

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