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post #4471 of 6020
Until I got HE-400 I had no idea what I was missing all the time having HD650 but after trying HE-400 for few minutes straight out of the box it became very clear especially with classical or jazz so I spent over an hour playing with 31 band graphic EQ trying to get the bass but wasn't successful. So I decided to try D5000 and got bass the way I want but with some recording with too high level treble were distorted and EQ was unable to fix it so I decided to try D7000 and with tweaked EQ they do the job but I lost a little bit sub-bass depth but now after upgrading to DragonFly/Asgard combo I'm very happy but still tempted to try T1 since you can get them for $850 but not sure if Asgard is enough to properly drive T1

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post #4472 of 6020
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

Until I got HE-400 I had no idea what I was missing all the time having HD650 but after trying HE-400 for few minutes straight out of the box it became very clear especially with classical or jazz so I spent over an hour playing with 31 band graphic EQ trying to get the bass but wasn't successful. So I decided to try D5000 and got bass the way I want but with some recording with too high level treble were distorted and EQ was unable to fix it so I decided to try D7000 and with tweaked EQ they do the job but I lost a little bit sub-bass depth but now after upgrading to DragonFly/Asgard combo I'm very happy but still tempted to try T1 since you can get them for $850 but not sure if Asgard is enough to properly drive T1
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post #4473 of 6020

Alright, I finally have time to try to fix my HE-400s. Does anyone have a little video guide or at least a small picture detailing how to rescrew the right driver?

 

Am I supposed to take off that pads and unscrew from there then rescrew it?


Edited by Jenxer - 10/2/12 at 3:36pm
post #4474 of 6020
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Originally Posted by olegausany View Post

Until I got HE-400 I had no idea what I was missing all the time having HD650 but after trying HE-400 for few minutes straight out of the box it became very clear especially with classical or jazz so I spent over an hour playing with 31 band graphic EQ trying to get the bass but wasn't successful. So I decided to try D5000 and got bass the way I want but with some recording with too high level treble were distorted and EQ was unable to fix it so I decided to try D7000 and with tweaked EQ they do the job but I lost a little bit sub-bass depth but now after upgrading to DragonFly/Asgard combo I'm very happy but still tempted to try T1 since you can get them for $850 but not sure if Asgard is enough to properly drive T1
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I don't think the D5000 is going to give you any more bass than the 400s, it's just a different experience with wooden cups. I thought the denons spoiled me, but i'm perfectly fine with the 400's low end with eq. They do very well with eq.

post #4475 of 6020
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Originally Posted by Jenxer View Post

Alright, I finally have time to try to fix my HE-400s. Does anyone have a little video guide or at least a small picture detailing how to rescrew the right driver?

 

Am I supposed to take off that pads and unscrew from there then rescrew it?

 

I would suggest that you pm Jerg. I think that he's posted pics before though.

post #4476 of 6020
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Originally Posted by jerg View Post

I'm pretty sure the logo print is much nicer now; older HE400s have extremely fragile logos that scratch off easily.

The logo on the right side of my he-400 is fading away. I guess the days they completely fade away I will print something cool on it. Anyone knows how to do this?
post #4477 of 6020
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Originally Posted by satanigatan View Post

I'm sure someone already replied to this. But let me be clear, I'm more of a casual audiophile then I am an audiophile. Meaning, I love quality sound. But I'm far from being an expert when it comes to understanding the technical stuff. I also don't have the ear that most have on here to really hear all the details and be able to adequately describe them. 

So my opinion is coming 100% from just a casual listener, and I would take it with a grain of salt.

For me, the velour adds weight to the overall sound. The treble is more smooth and tamed, and the overall sound just gets more weight/thickness. Without the velour, it sounds thin and almost crass. Sharp even. One thing I would like to add though, and I think it's important to consider, I've been listening to these for 2 weeks with velour, and randomly tried them without. So maybe my ears was adjusting drastically to the new sound. So it's hard to really say how accurate.

I guess for me though, I was just shocked at the change in sound on the same headphone. 

Thanks very helpful. Can't wait for the velour pad to restock.
post #4478 of 6020

So after canceling my order with Head-Direct I decided to get some HD600s from a member for $300. Due to an unexpected $150, I decided to splurge and got the Schiit Lyr. I'm incredibly excited. I ordered it around 5pm CST and it shipped less than an hour later. Schiit is already on my good list. I almost want to return my ODAC and E17 and get the Bifrost, but the utility of the E17 in the future makes me not want to return it. I know I will appreciate a decent portable amp sometime in the future. Oh well, I'll just consider it an investment. :)

post #4479 of 6020
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So after canceling my order with Head-Direct I decided to get some HD600s from a member for $300. Due to an unexpected $150, I decided to splurge and got the Schiit Lyr. I'm incredibly excited. I ordered it around 5pm CST and it shipped less than an hour later. Schiit is already on my good list. I almost want to return my ODAC and E17 and get the Bifrost, but the utility of the E17 in the future makes me not want to return it. I know I will appreciate a decent portable amp sometime in the future. Oh well, I'll just consider it an investment. :)

Too bad you won't be able to get the HE-400s anymore, they're a great compliment to my HD580s modded (same as older HD600s). If only you could manage to get both one day...very_evil_smiley.gif

post #4480 of 6020

I'm sure I'll end up buying them at some point, maybe when the manufacturing is more refined and they stop making changes. I'm hella excited for the Lyr though.

post #4481 of 6020
I Received my headphones 3 days after order I have no problems with there shipping
post #4482 of 6020
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Originally Posted by yokken View Post

I'm sure I'll end up buying them at some point, maybe when the manufacturing is more refined and they stop making changes. I'm hella excited for the Lyr though.

 

As well you should be! It's a great amp and I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

post #4483 of 6020
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I Received my headphones 3 days after order I have no problems with there shipping

 

First impressions? What do you like and not like so far?

post #4484 of 6020

I got my HE-400's today.

 

Fortunately, they sound the way I remember them sounding at the last meet and not like the pre-order pair I had months ago. I haven't looked yet to see if they are "Rev 2" or "Rev 3" but to my ears, they do not sound too bright. They are brighter than the HE-500's, which is a good thing because all of the little treble details I like to hear are fully present without any sibilance.

 

I cannot do a lot of listening tonight because I had a long, noisy day at work, but my first impressions are very favorable overall. They are a fun-sounding headphone reminiscent of my Denon D7000's, but with a less enthusiastic "smile" signature. Compared to my Denon's, they have slightly less treble extension, slightly warmer mids (without being too warm like the HE-500), and less extended but better controlled bass. They really remind me of the HD 600's more athletic and charming brother - a neutral foundation but the ends are boosted just enough to liven things up without distraction. More fun than the Senns, but "less" fun than the Denon's - perhaps the perfect compromise for me if further listening bears this out.

 

They are not as comfortable to wear as my Denon's, but they are not uncomfortable. My only real comfort issue is the L and R earcup plugs are stiff and hang low, so I can feel them on my shoulders/clothing when I turn my head. Also, I tore one of my velour pads at the seam when installing them. I hot glued the seam back together so it's fixed, but looks like crap. They are very poorly made.

 

I am really looking forward to spending more time with them over the next couple of weeks. biggrin.gif


Edited by palmfish - 10/2/12 at 9:17pm
post #4485 of 6020
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Originally Posted by palmfish View Post

I got my HE-400's today.

 

Fortunately, they sound the way I remember them sounding at the last meet and not like the pre-order pair I had months ago. I haven't looked yet to see if they are "Rev 2" or "Rev 3" but to my ears, they do not sound too bright. They are brighter than the HE-500's, which is a good thing because all of the little treble details I like to hear are fully present without any sibilance.

 

I cannot do a lot of listening tonight because I had a long, noisy day at work, but my first impressions are very favorable overall. They are a fun-sounding headphone reminiscent of my Denon D7000's, but with a less enthusiastic "smile" signature. Compared to my Denon's, they have slightly less treble extension, slightly warmer mids (without being too warm like the HE-500), and less extended but better controlled bass. They really remind me of the HD 600's more athletic and charming brother - a neutral foundation but the ends are boosted just enough to liven things up without distraction. More fun than the Senns, but "less" fun than the Denon's - perhaps the perfect compromise for me if further listening bears this out.

 

They are not as comfortable to wear as my Denon's, but they are not uncomfortable. My only real comfort issue is the L and R earcup plugs are stiff and hang low, so I can feel them on my shoulders/clothing when I turn my head. Also, I tore one of my velour pads at the seam when installing them. I hot glued the seam back together so it's fixed, but looks like crap. They are very poorly made.

 

I am really looking forward to spending more time with them over the next couple of weeks. biggrin.gif

Very quick way to check the driver revision is to of course just take off one of the pads, if the driver plastic is translucent white then it's rev2, if it's opaque sandy yellow then it's rev3. Takes 5 seconds.

 

I'm betting it's rev3 since you note that it's brighter than HE500s (I did A/B comparisons of my older HE400s against a HE500 and they weren't brighter at all).

 

 

P.S. I found a way of increasing bass extension with these babies: just play a sinewave tone at say 30Hz or 25Hz, as loud as possible without the driver producing distortions, over night; by morning it'd have loosened up / "burned in" enough to have better subbass response.


Edited by jerg - 10/2/12 at 9:23pm
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