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post #2416 of 6020
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

Yeah, I must have an odd shaped head. The top padding on my Pro 900 never sits dead center on my head. frown.gif
Also, the way the pads rest on the side of my head feel different on one side than the other, ever so slightly.

 

Every headphone I've owned the pads on the right side of my head never fit as good as the left for some reason.  I'm always messing with the right side and the left sits perfect every time.  I thought it was just only me.

 

Edit: I really need to stop using the word "just"


Edited by brokenthumb - 7/24/12 at 9:19pm
post #2417 of 6020
Omg, it's the same with me! It's always the left side that I have to mess with. XD
post #2418 of 6020

To get a perfect fit the cushions would have to mold to your ears with evenly distributed pressure. The top of your head isn't perfectly symmetrical either so again...no one has a perfect fit.wink.gif

Universal comfort is still pretty hard with everyone having a different jaw structure, head width, etc.

 

Heck I don't even fit IEMs in my ear the same way. I've learned that my ear canals have slightly different angles...at least I think they do.

 

@madlustenvy

Lol, I thought that pic was the way the phones looked when you received them...horribly aligned.


Edited by stevenlongs - 7/24/12 at 9:53pm
post #2419 of 6020
My HE400 will be here today.

I r very excite!

Haven't been this excited over a headphone in forever. Here's hoping all my doubts about it's dark signature are unfounded.
post #2420 of 6020

Give them time.  Coming from D200 I thought they sounded pretty muddy at first, but after only 10 minutes they sounded fantastic.

post #2421 of 6020
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Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

My HE400 will be here today.
I r very excite!
Haven't been this excited over a headphone in forever. Here's hoping all my doubts about it's dark signature are unfounded.

 

I'm excited for you man. Nothing like arrival day on a hp of this quality. Enjoy!! 

 

And don't forget to eat!!

post #2422 of 6020
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Originally Posted by stevenlongs View Post

 

Does hifiman do any sort of visual inspection? This is really disappointing to see. 

I can see how some can envy the sound coming out of these, but wth is up with the build quality...confused.gif

 

LCD-3: $2000

HE-6: $1300

LCD-2: $1000

HE-500: $700

HE-400: $400.

 

Does that answer your question at all? wink.gif

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

My HE400 will be here today.
I r very excite!
Haven't been this excited over a headphone in forever. Here's hoping all my doubts about it's dark signature are unfounded.

 

Wow, that's saying something considering that vast stable of cans you've owned :)

 

It's dark, but pleasantly dark, and without sacrificing the "alive" feeling of them.  You don't list having had HD650 but I originally said in this thread it combined the smooth darkness of HD650 with the alive-ness of K702, but without the headband nubs and the piercing treble L3000.gif

post #2423 of 6020

I liked Purrin's description of them best.  They are dark and bright at the same time.  Also to note, even though their upper midrange is technically recessed, it still shows through more than other mid-recessed headphones like d2000 and dt990, so it leaves me not calling them u-shaped.


Edited by TMRaven - 7/25/12 at 8:48am
post #2424 of 6020

I agree with the above descriptions. The he400 is very difficult to tell someone about. It has a unique sound. The contrasting qualities often make it tough to talk about and still sound like you know what you're talking about. 

 

The bottom line is, this is a very nice sounding hp and an absolute steal at this price point IMO...

post #2425 of 6020
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Lust Envy View Post

My HE400 will be here today.
I r very excite!
Haven't been this excited over a headphone in forever. Here's hoping all my doubts about it's dark signature are unfounded.

Have fun!

 

I just ordered mine last night, but they won't be here for a while. They're my first step into the $100+ headphone range (unless you count the Sennheiser 555s, which are $220 last I checked, but were $80 at the time).

 

It was a long, hard decision where I spent weeks trying to figure out what was best for me. I didn't intend to spend so much time looking around, but nothing was quite right for me until I read up on these. I can genuinely say I'm very excited. Just a shame I gotta use these crappy iPod buds a few more weeks.

post #2426 of 6020
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Originally Posted by 45729420 View Post

Have fun!

 

I just ordered mine last night, but they won't be here for a while. They're my first step into the $100+ headphone range (unless you count the Sennheiser 555s, which are $220 last I checked, but were $80 at the time).

 

It was a long, hard decision where I spent weeks trying to figure out what was best for me. I didn't intend to spend so much time looking around, but nothing was quite right for me until I read up on these. I can genuinely say I'm very excited. Just a shame I gotta use these crappy iPod buds a few more weeks.

 

The wait is always hard isn't it? Mine arrived just over the last weekend. Not sure what other's thought, but I will say that out of the box on day one my first impression was bass was great, not really bright, but they seemed a little fatiguing. Perhaps it was just a sensative day for my ears...

Anyway, i'm happy to report that many hours in, they definitely seem like the smooth out and most importantly they sound great!

 

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Originally Posted by stevenlongs View Post

To get a perfect fit the cushions would have to mold to your ears with evenly distributed pressure. The top of your head isn't perfectly symmetrical either so again...no one has a perfect fit.wink.gif

Universal comfort is still pretty hard with everyone having a different jaw structure, head width, etc.

 

Heck I don't even fit IEMs in my ear the same way. I've learned that my ear canals have slightly different angles...at least I think they do.

 

@madlustenvy

Lol, I thought that pic was the way the phones looked when you received them...horribly aligned.

 

+1 on that. It's harder for me to get a good seal with my left ear than the right when using IEMs. Although I think i look symetrical, you'd think i must look like Quasimoto or something.

post #2427 of 6020

How do the HE400 compare with DT880 and HD650?

 

What are the differences between HE400 and 500?

 

What kind of amp is recommended?

post #2428 of 6020
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Originally Posted by olear View Post

How do the HE400 compare with DT880 and HD650?

 

What are the differences between HE400 and 500?

 

What kind of amp is recommended?

 

I've never been a fan of the DT880 though I wanted to like them at the time.  The treble is just too sharp for my tastes.  HE-400 has some treble spikes, but nothing like that 8.5kHz dagger the DT880 has.  DT880 has many fans however.   My thinking would be if you wanted a DT880-like ortho, HE-5 maybe a better bet.  HE-6 possibly even moreso.  HE-400 is far darker even if parts of it are bright than the Beyers.

 

HD600 and HD650 are two sides of the same coin.  HD600 is Senn's flatter more neutral can and HD650 is their slightly technologically superior but basically similar variant that is warmer and with a bigger midbass hump and more rolled off hights.  Compared to HD650 HE-400 is very different.   It has no overly warmed mids, while HD650 is built from the mids outward.  It does share some common treble rolloff, but where the HD650 shows the treble rolloff by design, the HE-400 has carefully placed peaks that feel like full treble without getting fatiguing.  HE-400 has the more solid bass depth, and has better instrument separation, while HD650 has a better center image and a more refined or relaxed sound.  HE-400 has crazy dynamics when fed by a dynamic amp.  HD650 has a narrower dynamics.  This can be good or bad either way depending on the recording.  Compared to HE-400, HD650 sounds almost bright, despite that it is not.  Overall they're two wildly different headphones that compliment each other very well.  HD650 and HE-400 are my main two headphones of my collection and compete almost evenly for head-time.  HD600 never appealed to me as much as HD650.  It's a nice flat headphone that's not as colored to be musical.  HE-400 doesn't compete with analytical flatness of HD600 & K702 for example if that's the goal one is shooting for.

 

wje is the best to answer about the HE-500.  From his earlier posts, when amplified well the two are actually very similar.  They do have different sound signatures with HE-500 being brighter and warmer, tuned more like HD650.  HE-400 would be darker and weightier.

 

Amp...is all preference.  I happen to love both HE-400 and HD650 on my Lyr, and I defintely prefer tube/hybrid sound for them.  But I can see how some would like them on a more analytical SS amp as well.   They're easy to drive, but the do reward more serious power as well. 

post #2429 of 6020
The wait is killing me. I expect it here within two hours.
post #2430 of 6020

You can track the UPS man with google maps!! jk...atsmile.gif

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