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post #121 of 6019
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that's kind of question that usually gets me into trouble. ^_^ Because no matter what I say, someone somewhere will figure out a way to argue that he or she has listened to another setup with another headphone that is way better. 

 

There is no perfect headphone out there, and each person's hearing and music preference is different. I respect everyone's opinion. That being said since i said that i will try to answer everyone's question, i will go ahead and say "yes, on top of my head i can't think of any headphone below $400 that is better than HE-400 overall." I admit that i am probably the biggest ortho fan on the planet. ^_^ I think that orthodynamic headphone is superior to dynamic headphone due to the nature of its driver. 

 

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Is there any other headphone you've listened to in the $400 range with contending sound quality aspect(s) compared to HE400? By aspects I mean the usuals (treble/mids/bass/imaging/sound stage).

 



 

post #122 of 6019

Thanks for posting this.


Need to push to get my paycheck as soon as possible ;)

post #123 of 6019
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that's kind of question that usually gets me into trouble. ^_^ Because no matter what I say, someone somewhere will figure out a way to argue that he or she has listened to another setup with another headphone that is way better. 

 

There is no perfect headphone out there, and each person's hearing and music preference is different. I respect everyone's opinion. That being said since i said that i will try to answer everyone's question, i will go ahead and say "yes, on top of my head i can't think of any headphone below $400 that is better than HE-400 overall." I admit that i am probably the biggest ortho fan on the planet. ^_^ I think that orthodynamic headphone is superior to dynamic headphone due to the nature of its driver. 

 



 


It's ok, I just want to hear your opinion toward my question, based on your personal experience of listening to headphones (I'm sure you've listened to a wide variety of them). 

 

Let me rephrase it then, which aspect (treble/mids/bass/imaging/sound stage) do you reckon is the relatively weakest aspect of the sound coming from these cans?

 

post #124 of 6019
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which ones are you referring to?
 

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It's ok, I just want to hear your opinion toward my question, based on your personal experience of listening to headphones (I'm sure you've listened to a wide variety of them). 

 

Let me rephrase it then, which aspect (treble/mids/bass/imaging/sound stage) do you reckon is the relatively weakest aspect of the sound coming from these cans?

 



 

post #125 of 6019
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which ones are you referring to?
 



 



Oh, the cans that this thread discusses of course, the Hifiman's.

post #126 of 6019

I got hooked by this thread and ordered.  Looking forward to how they compare to my Stax 404 Sig's (NOS RCA clear tops in my SRM006t are absolutely great).  I have a feeling the HE-400's plus my Meier Concerto (with the 120/220 switch) will be a good combo for listening inside my apartment or hotel during extended overseas trips.

post #127 of 6019


hi blankdisc, based on your opinion can you recommend 1 song or some that goes really well with the he-400 please , just for the fun of it , since we're gonna in this thread for a bit waiting for the CES in January.

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that's kind of question that usually gets me into trouble. ^_^ Because no matter what I say, someone somewhere will figure out a way to argue that he or she has listened to another setup with another headphone that is way better. 

 

There is no perfect headphone out there, and each person's hearing and music preference is different. I respect everyone's opinion. That being said since i said that i will try to answer everyone's question, i will go ahead and say "yes, on top of my head i can't think of any headphone below $400 that is better than HE-400 overall." I admit that i am probably the biggest ortho fan on the planet. ^_^ I think that orthodynamic headphone is superior to dynamic headphone due to the nature of its driver. 

 



 



 

post #128 of 6019
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OK. just for fun:

 

HE-300

Pro: a pretty good dynamic headphone. easy to drive. low price.

Con: Not an ortho

 

HE-400

Pro: satisfying bass, light weight, easy to drive, do i need to mention the price?

Con: treble is a little bit brighter than i like. Not as smooth and transparent as its bigger brother HE-500

 

HE-500

Pro: THE best mids(vocal) ever. do i need to mention the price again? 

Con: bass is a little light. The overall sounding is a little too polite for Rock and R&B

 

HE-6

Pro: Once driven properly (not easy), there is NO fault period (in my opinion). One could probably argue that the sound stage is not as big as HD800, but i think HD800's sound stage is slightly too big to sound real. Cheaper than the rest of flagship headphones.

Con: VERY difficult to drive

 

One thing you probably have noticed is that i mentioned Price four times in Pro for all four headphones. LOL....

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Oh, the cans that this thread discusses of course, the Hifiman's.



 

post #129 of 6019
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I enjoyed Eric Clapton's Cocaine with HE-400 quite a lot
 

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hi blankdisc, based on your opinion can you recommend 1 song or some that goes really well with the he-400 please , just for the fun of it , since we're gonna in this thread for a bit waiting for the CES in January.



 



 

post #130 of 6019
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i have a Stax Nova Signature. they sound totally different.
 

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Originally Posted by Il Mostro View Post

I got hooked by this thread and ordered.  Looking forward to how they compare to my Stax 404 Sig's (NOS RCA clear tops in my SRM006t are absolutely great).  I have a feeling the HE-400's plus my Meier Concerto (with the 120/220 switch) will be a good combo for listening inside my apartment or hotel during extended overseas trips.



 

post #131 of 6019

 

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HE-400

Pro: satisfying bass, light weight, easy to drive, do i need to mention the price?

Con: treble is a little bit brighter than i like. Not as smooth and transparent as its bigger brother HE-500

 

You gave me hope :) I like it a little bit brighter than neutral but I will see/hear it myself in January since I pre-order them :) So your con is a pro for me :D

 

One thing: what about dynamic and sound stage? That is really important to me and of course resolution.


Edited by elektrosteve - 12/29/11 at 9:28pm
post #132 of 6019
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i have a Stax Nova Signature. they sound totally different.
 



 



Good that there isn't going to be redundancy -- I am pretty genre specific in using my Stax.  I many years experience with the similarities and  differences between ESL's and planar magnetics in the speaker world having gone from Maggies to Apogees (multiple models of each) before finally landing and sticking with full size/full range ESL's, but haven't owned planar headphones.  Can you expand your thoughts on how the HE-400's and HE-500's differ in terms of detail, space and transparency from your Nova's?  I fully expect more of a slam factor at the expense of something

post #133 of 6019
Originally Posted by blankdisc View Post

HE-400

Pro: satisfying bass, light weight, easy to drive, do i need to mention the price?

Con: treble is a little bit brighter than i like. Not as smooth and transparent as its bigger brother HE-500

 

HE-500

Pro: THE best mids(vocal) ever. do i need to mention the price again? 

Con: bass is a little light. The overall sounding is a little too polite for Rock and R&B

Hmm... The HE-500 didn't totally wow me, and part of the reason was my own fault (was erroneously expecting something more like an air-motion transformer, something fundamentally different sounding), and part was a bit of dissatisfaction with the frequency response (I listen at very low volume and at that level they lacked some sparkle and some bass impact). For the price, for my lack of wowing, and for OPEN cans (read: limited in usage opportunities) I decided to end my relationship with them... but for half the price, and for a freq response that might be better suited to lower volumes...

 

Hmm...

post #134 of 6019
Thread Starter 

it seems that you really needed the HE-6 with a  power amp. LOL...^_^
 

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Hmm... The HE-500 didn't totally wow me, and part of the reason was my own fault (was erroneously expecting something more like an air-motion transformer, something fundamentally different sounding), and part was a bit of dissatisfaction with the frequency response (I listen at very low volume and at that level they lacked some sparkle and some bass impact). For the price, for my lack of wowing, and for OPEN cans (read: limited in usage opportunities) I decided to end my relationship with them... but for half the price, and for a freq response that might be better suited to lower volumes...

 

Hmm...



 

post #135 of 6019
Originally Posted by blankdisc View Post

it seems that you really needed the HE-6 with a  power amp. LOL...^_^

Well, the killer app for HiFiMAN, from my perspective, will be their first foray into closed cans. Well, I can dream anyway...

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