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Hey guys!

 

So for Christmas, I've been given a beautiful pair of lovely pristine Sennheiser HD 600's. I'm very excited, to say the least, but before I put them on, I wanna as a few questions:

 

1) Do these babies need burn-in? If so, how long?

 

2) Will these things do well on a laptop? I have an ASUS K53SV A-1 laptop, not sure what the sound card is (even after googling)...

 

3) I read they do best with an amp; what's a good amp that's under $100 that will give the HD600's a boost?

 

Thanks in advance, can't wait to get these babies going!!!

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Originally Posted by AndreiKuznetsov View Post

Hey guys!

 

So for Christmas, I've been given a beautiful pair of lovely pristine Sennheiser HD 600's. I'm very excited, to say the least, but before I put them on, I wanna as a few questions:

 

1) Do these babies need burn-in? If so, how long?

Don't worry about it. Normally higher end headphones, in my experience, are less affected by burn-in and those types of effects. The HD600s are a good headphone, you might as well burn them in through just listening. 

 

2) Will these things do well on a laptop? I have an ASUS K53SV A-1 laptop, not sure what the sound card is (even after googling)...

You'll be underpowered out of the laptop output, sadly. I know of no laptop with the output needed for an HD600.

 

 

3) I read they do best with an amp; what's a good amp that's under $100 that will give the HD600's a boost?

The Fiio E9 clocks in just under $100 and will do the job just fine.

 

 

Thanks in advance, can't wait to get these babies going!!!


Just my thoughts.

 

post #3 of 9

X2 on Fiio E9. Also agree with not worrying about burn-in. Enjoy them as you normally would and burn-in and "brain-in" will naturally take course.


Edited by juantendo8 - 12/20/11 at 8:06pm
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You'll be underpowered out of the laptop output, sadly. I know of no laptop with the output needed for an HD600.



Darn... will they sound ANY good straight out of the box until I can pick up an amp? They look so sad just sitting there while I'm still listening to my HD202's...

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They should "work" but you'll probably have low-end roll-off or some other abnormality; depends on the output characteristics of the driver in the laptop. Try it and see, but I agree with the suggestion for something better suited to the 300ohm load. 

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Darn... will they sound ANY good straight out of the box until I can pick up an amp? They look so sad just sitting there while I'm still listening to my HD202's...



 

post #6 of 9

Oh, yeah. They'll sound good out of the box. They just may not reach the volume you want. It'll be a little off as you start approaching 100% volume, but it won't be a gamebreaker. 

 

It'll kick your HD202's butt, let me say that.
 

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Darn... will they sound ANY good straight out of the box until I can pick up an amp? They look so sad just sitting there while I'm still listening to my HD202's...



 

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They should "work" but you'll probably have low-end roll-off or some other abnormality; depends on the output characteristics of the driver in the laptop. Try it and see, but I agree with the suggestion for something better suited to the 300ohm load. 



 


What does "low-end roll-off" mean? As things get wonky at lower volumes? Please explain to the n00b audiophile D:

 

post #8 of 9

Some integrated sound cards suffer roll-offs on both the highs and the lows, due to their non-flat frequency response curve. I suggest you get a E10 (desktop DAC + amp) and a good cMoy amp to give your HD600 enough power to sound their best. E9 is much better than cMoys, but you're still using your laptop output as source. Even E10 alone would be a better option than your laptop. I read E10s drive HD800 all right, so HD600 should be a bit more than that.

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The interaction between the onboard audio/soundcard and the headphones can create an uneven freq response:

http://www.afrotechmods.com/reallycheap/soundcard/sennheiser.htm

And the graph from HeadRoom that shows the HD 600 impedance:

http://graphs.headphone.com/graphCompare.php?graphType=7&graphID[]=573

 

So basically, with your integrated audio, you may have a situation where there is less bass being reproduced than should be ("low end roll off"), because of the load they present to the line driver. This doesn't mean the source has an explicitly non-linear response, it just means it's mismatched/ill-suited for what it's driving. You can demonstrate something similar by plugging your headphones into a device that expects a line-level input as its load (do pick something with a volume control); it will work but it will not work "well." 

 

It's not really a question of power; the HD 600 can get ear-splittingly loud with very minimal input (most any dynamic headphones can). It's more a question of whether or not that "loud" is letting you get the proper FR from the transducer you've purchased (the HD 600 in this case), or if it's being screwed with by some other factor (like the impedance mismatch). A headphone amplifier is one option, and I'm in favor of that kind of purchase for desktop use; I don't have a favorite device to suggest - the Creek OBH-11 and Firestone Cute were popular a few years ago. Neither should be terribly expensive. Fiio seems to be fairly popular today, I'm unfamiliar. 

 

 

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What does "low-end roll-off" mean? As things get wonky at lower volumes? Please explain to the n00b audiophile D:

 



 

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