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post #391 of 1009

to : customNuts

1. i would like to hear your review  for d18 pairing with master 5.  i got master 6  and using squeezebox to play 24/96.
(my dac only takes 24/96)

 

24/192 is too attractive when you got the 192 files but only limited to 96.

 

2. i also hope you can make comparsion between d18 and ref 7.1 pairing with master 5, which one  you like most?

 

thank you.

post #392 of 1009
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Originally Posted by colour97 View Post

to : customNuts

1. i would like to hear your review  for d18 pairing with master 5.  i got master 6  and using squeezebox to play 24/96.
(my dac only takes 24/96)

 

24/192 is too attractive when you got the 192 files but only limited to 96.

 

2. i also hope you can make comparsion between d18 and ref 7.1 pairing with master 5, which one  you like most?

 

thank you.

Sure, be glad to help. I have the A18 arriving either tomorrow or the next day so I will include that in the review.

So i'll post again in a couple of days with some comparisons.

What I can tell you now is that the d18 & Master 5 is a beautiful pairing with serious synergy. The 7.1 is slightly superior technically and pairs really well with the m5 but is a touch less musical & involving.  Needless to say the D18 is wicked for the money. 

 

I'll leave it at that for now and post in a couple of days once I've done some comparing with the 2 dacs & 2 amps. I'll use modded d7000, sig pro, ps500 & maybe T1's all balanced. 

post #393 of 1009
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Originally Posted by customNuts View Post

Sure, be glad to help. I have the A18 arriving either tomorrow or the next day so I will include that in the review.

So i'll post again in a couple of days with some comparisons.

What I can tell you now is that the d18 & Master 5 is a beautiful pairing with serious synergy. The 7.1 is slightly superior technically and pairs really well with the m5 but is a touch less musical & involving.  Needless to say the D18 is wicked for the money. 

 

I'll leave it at that for now and post in a couple of days once I've done some comparing with the 2 dacs & 2 amps. I'll use modded d7000, sig pro, ps500 & maybe T1's all balanced. 

 

How does the LD MKVI+ stack up to your other amps?

post #394 of 1009
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Originally Posted by preproman View Post

 

How does the LD MKVI+ stack up to your other amps?

http://www.head-fi.org/t/570722/audio-gd-master-5-6-8-balanced-head-amp-preamp/195

 

Here's a link to the Master 5 thread where I did a mini review on the mk6+ vs Master 5- it continues on to the next page.

 

The LDmk6+ btw is an amazing amp for the money. Easily the best value amp I've ever bought. Very, very close to the Master 5 - the review explains in more detail.


Edited by customNuts - 7/15/12 at 7:43am
post #395 of 1009

After getting angry at how good the synergy between the VAMP and the AKG K242HD is, I'm looking to upgrade. I mean I looked at my D7000 and went "Why the **** did I buy that?!?!" 

 

So definitely getting the level 2 Lawton mod for it, and then was going to get the D100, but now just going to skip from the Asus STX upto the D18, and then I need a good transparent High current amp, the AudioGD master 5 looks good, but I can't find it on their website? 


Edited by WiR3D - 7/15/12 at 9:23am
post #396 of 1009
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post
I need a good transparent High current amp, the AudioGD master 5 looks good, but I can't find it on their website? 

 

 

I think it's now the Master 8  that now comes with a gain switch

post #397 of 1009
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I think it's now the Master 8  that now comes with a gain switch

Yeah I saw. thanks anyway

post #398 of 1009

I have held off a few days to listen to my new D18 and sort out some computer problems that almost caused me to put it back in the box without a fair test. Other than the wonderful and detailed review presented in the beginning of this thread I have not really seen much written about the D18. I set up the D18 with my La Figaro 332C (I also have an Audio gd 2.2 for comparison). I use my computer as my only source. I have hundreds of lossless music files and a few sacd files. I listen to classical, jazz vocals and pop music. My headphones of choice at the moment are the HE-500. When I first set up the D18 things were not going well. I had sox enabled in Foobar to upsample and the sound was really awful. I discovered the next day that I had a driver conflict with my Xonar D2X which was causing this problem. I only mention this because someone else might have the same experience. The fault was entirely the software. I corrected the problem and the D18 came to life. Thereafter I used my computer to upsample everything on the fly to 192kbs. The D18 responded with a very high level of musical reproduction. I have not had experience with many of the current high end dacs but I could not imagine one that could substantially surpass the performance of the D18. I had an M2Tech Hiface 2 on order but it arrived after I had the D18 for three days. In the meantime I was using optical out from my computer to drive the D18 and while not awe inspiring it was damn good,

 

The Hiface arrived and it was very simple to set up. I turned on one of my usual classical pieces and my jaw dropped. I am not easily moved to tears but the difference in playing the source files through the Hiface was not subtle. It was very obvious that what is a very good dac could become a true musical masterpiece with the addition of a good low jitter digital source. Yulong chose not to include the usb interface in his product I am sure for cost reasons. He also made the comment somewhere that such devices had become common so he did not feel the need. Well, I can state with certainty that the addition of the Hiface 2 made a world of difference by expanding the soundstage, increasing transparency and correcting tonality to the point of absolute accuracy. I have been an audiophile for over thirty years. I have never heard sound like this from any system. This is truly an example of the music being just as good as the source recording. No better no worse. The D18 cannot make a bad recording good  but it can take well recorded material and reproduce it with exceptional accuracy. The only real issue I have with the original review in this thread is that I do not believe to me that the top end is warm, rolled or missing anything. I respect the fact that it might not be so in everyones system. In my setup I can find not fault.

 

I find the D18 to be a true joy and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in a dac upgrade. I do feel that you must spend the extra money on a good usb converter to really experience the D18 at it's best. For now, I am enjoying going back over my old music files and experiencing them all over again through an entirely new window. Yulong has truly brought us a gift.


Edited by Chodi - 7/16/12 at 7:24am
post #399 of 1009
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Originally Posted by Chodi View Post

I have held off a few days to listen to my new D18 and sort out some computer problems that almost caused me to put it back in the box without a fair test. Other than the wonderful and detailed review presented in the beginning of this thread I have not really seen much written about the D18. I set up the D18 with my La Figaro 332C (I also have an Audio gd 2.2 for comparison). I use my computer as my only source. I have hundreds of lossless music files and a few sacd files. I listen to classical, jazz vocals and pop music. My headphones of choice at the moment are the HE-500. When I first set up the D18 things were not going well. I had sox enabled in Foobar to upsample and the sound was really awful. I discovered the next day that I had a driver conflict with my Xonar D2X which was causing this problem. I only mention this because someone else might have the same experience. The fault was entirely the software. I corrected the problem and the D18 came to life. Thereafter I used my computer to upsample everything on the fly to 192kbs. The D18 responded with a very high level of musical reproduction. I have not had experience with many of the current high end dacs but I could not imagine one that could substantially surpass the performance of the D18. I had an M2Tech Hiface 2 on order but it arrived after I had the D18 for three days. In the meantime I was using optical out from my computer to drive the D18 and while not awe inspiring it was damn good,

 

The Hiface arrived and it was very simple to set up. I turned on one of my usual classical pieces and my jaw dropped. I am not easily moved to tears but the difference in playing the source files through the Hiface was not subtle. It was very obvious that what is a very good dac could become a true musical masterpiece with the addition of a good low jitter digital source. Yulong chose not to include the usb interface in his product I am sure for cost reasons. He also made the comment somewhere that such devices had become common so he did not feel the need. Well, I can state with certainty that the addition of the Hiface 2 made a world of difference by expanding the soundstage, increasing transparency and correcting tonality to the point of absolute accuracy. I have been an audiophile for over thirty years. I have never heard sound like this from any system. This is truly an example of the music being just as good as the source recording. No better no worse. The D18 cannot make a bad recording good  but it can take well recorded material and reproduce it with exceptional accuracy. The only real issue I have with the original review in this thread is that I do not believe to me that the top end is warm, rolled or missing anything. I respect the fact that it might not be so in everyones system. In my setup I can find not fault.

 

I find the D18 to be a true joy and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in a dac upgrade. I do feel that you must spend the extra money on a good usb converter to really experience the D18 at it's best. For now, I am enjoying going back over my old music files and experiencing them all over again through an entirely new window. Yulong has truly brought us a gift.

Nice review. That's basically exactly how I feel about the unit. Pretty stunning. I recommend you get a balanced amp to go with it. Even though I have the fully balanced M5, I went ahead and ordered the A18 as Yulong is my favorite designer/builder and I thought I owed it to my self to at least try it. (I know it will be good but how much better than the M5 is the question).

Its money back guarantee from Grand F anyway! My A18 should arrive today.


Edited by customNuts - 7/17/12 at 5:30pm
post #400 of 1009
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

After getting angry at how good the synergy between the VAMP and the AKG K242HD is, I'm looking to upgrade. I mean I looked at my D7000 and went "Why the **** did I buy that?!?!" 

 

So definitely getting the level 2 Lawton mod for it, and then was going to get the D100, but now just going to skip from the Asus STX upto the D18, and then I need a good transparent High current amp, the AudioGD master 5 looks good, but I can't find it on their website? 

After owning both the d100 & D18, you cant go wrong with either unit. Both true high end performance. 

If you are using a separate amp though I highly suggest you push for the D18 as it is a clear step up from the D100 in every area, especially musicality.

post #401 of 1009
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Originally Posted by customNuts View Post

After owning both the d100 & D18, you cant go wrong with either unit. Both true high end performance. 

If you are using a separate amp though I highly suggest you push for the D18 as it is a clear step up from the D100 in every area, especially musicality.

Thank you, and eager to view your impressions of the A18, especially with the Denons, 

post #402 of 1009
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Originally Posted by WiR3D View Post

Thank you, and eager to view your impressions of the A18, especially with the Denons, 

A18 still not here. Any day now.

I can tell you that my modded d7000 have the best synergy with the d18/M5 out of all my cans.

& to think, I was just about to sell them!

post #403 of 1009
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Originally Posted by customNuts View Post

A18 still not here. Any day now.

I can tell you that my modded d7000 have the best synergy with the d18/M5 out of all my cans.

& to think, I was just about to sell them!

Thanks! Because I am not far from Lawton stage 2 modding mine. 

post #404 of 1009

Hmmm, D18 or Anedio or M51, damn to many choices blink.gif

post #405 of 1009
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Blackmumba View Post

Hmmm, D18 or Anedio or M51, damn to many choices blink.gif

 

Yep, being surrounded by great choices - it's a good problem to have.

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