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post #98101 of 152050
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Ahh, That makes sense.
I didn't think there'll be a hole on top of the case.

 
A lot of PC cases past $50 have an exposed top for fans and or radiators smily_headphones1.gif
post #98102 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

One of the companies I am reviewing a product for just launched a custom GTX 780 smily_headphones1.gif

Maybe I should go into pc hardware reviewing? wink.gif

custom in what wait? custom artwork perhaps? :p

post #98103 of 152050
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

custom in what wait? custom artwork perhaps? tongue.gif
Umm. Some are
Clocked differently.

Some have different artistic designs. But most of it is in the cooling and different tweaks they do for more perf

At the airport leaving my home for a month.
post #98104 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
A lot of PC cases past $50 have an exposed top for fans and or radiators smily_headphones1.gif

I never had a PC, wouldn't have known... :p

 

 

Now looking at what I have.... (2x MBP + 1x MacMini)
It's pretty damn hard to tell people that I hate Apple....

But in fact I really do....


Edited by akiroz - 12/20/13 at 6:25am
post #98105 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

At the airport leaving my home for a month.

Wait... Where are you going???

post #98106 of 152050
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post
 

I never had a PC, wouldn't have known... :p

 

 

Now looking at what I have.... (2x MBP + 1x MacMini)
It's pretty damn hard to tell people that I hate Apple....

But in fact I really do....

DIY Laptop time!

post #98107 of 152050
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

I never had a PC, wouldn't have known... tongue.gif




Now looking at what I have.... (2x MBP + 1x MacMini)

It's pretty damn hard to tell people that I hate Apple....
But in fact I really do....
What do you hate about them?

Isnt that just your current dissatisfication and pre-adapting to Mavericks?

I have never had a moment hen I first started using an OS or OS variant upgrade where I
Loved it.

I had periods of hate for Windows 7, 8, and 8.1 when i first statted
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Wait... Where are you going???
First on vacation and then flying 1,100 km bak home....
post #98108 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post


What do you hate about them?

Isnt that just your current dissatisfication and pre-adapting to Mavericks?

I have never had a moment hen I first started using an OS or OS variant upgrade where I
Loved it..

No It's not that I'm "adapting" to OSX 10.9, The OS itself just isn't as good as 10.8 in the sense of resource manmagement.
Like how much RAM the system itself takes, it's ridiculous!!! With the default 4GB that came with my MBP, I see the rainbow ball EVERY 10-20 seconds!!

Anyway, I've upgraded to 8GB so it's fine now.
BUT guess what, that not all. Oh no, there are so many problems with this OS, I can't even begin to talk about it in a sane manner so lemme calm down for a moment....\\\

..

...

....

*deep breaths*

OK...

  1. OS laggs when ever I change volume level, I loose a few audio samples.... THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM!!!!
  2. No more 2D dock, I HATE the 3D one.
  3. My virtual audio pipe "soundflower" keeps on glitching because of an under/over filled buffer.
  4. Disk speeds are capped, in a random manner. Sometimes my USB3 Drive can go 160MB/s and sometimes only 30-40MB/s for the SAME SEQUENTIAL READ TASK.

    BOTTOM LINE: SCHITTY RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

 

OK, I'll admit, it's not all bad some of the UI looks and uses better than 10.8

but having my audio stream glitch everytime I change volume is simply unacceptable! :eek: 

 

EDIT: I've already solved the volume glitch problem by unchecking this box (it's on by default) but this was never a problem before so I dunno what they're doing....

Though this doesn't change the fact that the OS laggs often, I know it's lagging because my audio stream will glitch when I'm listening to music.

Basically the OS laggs momentarily when ever I'm trying to start a new process, be it copying files, emptying the trash etc.

 


Edited by akiroz - 12/20/13 at 7:15am
post #98109 of 152050
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post
 

No It's not that I'm "adapting" to OSX 10.9, The OS itself just isn't as good as 10.8 in the sense of resource manmagement.
Like how much RAM the system itself takes, it's ridiculous!!! With the default 4GB that came with my MBP, I see the rainbow ball EVERY 10-20 seconds!!

Anyway, I've upgraded to 8GB so it's fine now.
BUT guess what, that not all. Oh no, there are so many problems with this OS, I can't even begin to talk about it in a sane manner so lemme calm down for a moment....\\\

..

...

....

*deep breaths*

OK...

  1. OS laggs when ever I change volume level, I loose a few audio samples.... THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM!!!!
  2. No more 2D dock, I HATE the 3D one.
  3. My virtual audio pipe "soundflower" keeps on glitching because of an under/over filled buffer.
  4. Disk speeds are capped, in a random manner. Sometimes my USB3 Drive can go 160MB/s and sometimes only 30-40MB/s for the SAME SEQUENTIAL READ TASK.

    BOTTOM LINE: SCHITTY RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.

 

OK, I'll admit, it's not all bad some of the UI looks and uses better than 10.8

but having my audio stream glitch everytime I change volume is simply unacceptable! :eek: 

 

EDIT: I've already solved the volume glitch problem by unchecking this box (it's on by default) but this was never a problem before so I dunno what they're doing....

Though this doesn't change the fact that the OS laggs often, I know it's lagging because my audio stream will glitch when I'm listening to music.

 

I've also noticed problems in terms of overall system performance.

 

Mavericks was indeed desinged to use less resouces and it does do that at times. But it still seems like it fills up a bit with only 4GB

 

I'll be upgrading my Mac I believe soon. Hopefully 8GB and SSD will fix this right up :D

post #98110 of 152050

@Borisu

 

The Mac should support most PC RAM last I checked right? Even without regard for timings or clock as long as its 'approx' or decent is that correct?

post #98111 of 152050

Yep, it seems CAS 9 with 1066MHz DDR3 should work for an upgrade for me :)

post #98112 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

I've also noticed problems in terms of overall system performance.

 

Mavericks was indeed desinged to use less resouces and it does do that at times. But it still seems like it fills up a bit with only 4GB

 

I'll be upgrading my Mac I believe soon. Hopefully 8GB and SSD will fix this right up :D

 

For general / daily use this is still acceptable, but the problem is that I use this computer for live shows and performances!
I simply cannot afford to have the audio glitch in the middle of the show for every little thing I do!!!

post #98113 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

@Borisu

 

The Mac should support most PC RAM last I checked right? Even without regard for timings or clock as long as its 'approx' or decent is that correct?

Yeah.

 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Yep, it seems CAS 9 with 1066MHz DDR3 should work for an upgrade for me :)

I'm using 1x 8GB (CAS11) with 1600MHz DDR3 now.

 

 

I might have to invest in a faster HDD before I start any show.... the new OS seems to be using more disk I/O

Guess they're assuming most people have SSDs...


Edited by akiroz - 12/20/13 at 7:35am
post #98114 of 152050
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post
 

 

For general / daily use this is still acceptable, but the problem is that I use this computer for live shows and performances!
I simply cannot afford to have the audio glitch in the middle of the show for every little thing I do!!!

To be fair though, Mavericks is MUCH more usable than initial Windows 8 and currently Windows 8.1 is. 

 

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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post
 

Yeah.

 

I'm using 1x 8GB (CAS11) with 1600MHz DDR3 now.

 

Yep, most reports indicate that since CAS 9 was used in my 2011 model, that it would just be safer. Doesn't matter anyway, as most RAM over here is CAS 9(that I can buy on Newegg)

 

 

***** though. 8GB RAM is $70 USD at the cheapest here for the laptop variant :(

 

I was hoping for $49 :(

 

How much speed boost do you get from the 2011 MBP with 8GB RAM?

 

Do any of your laptops have an SSD?

post #98115 of 152050
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

How much speed boost do you get from the 2011 MBP with 8GB RAM?

 

Do any of your laptops have an SSD?

I'm using a Mid 2012 MBP over here.
Not really a speed boost but it sure banishes the rainbow ball... :D

 

Nope, no SSD. Cost per GB is way too high for me.

But I might invest in one for the sake of running shows...

 

 

I'm only playing a single track here.....

and I'm already using a WD scorpio blue HDD rated for 136MB/s continuous.

 

I suspect the OS.....

 

EDIT:

Doesn't seem to be anything wrong when I test it....


Edited by akiroz - 12/20/13 at 7:47am
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