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post #97801 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post
 

So I have a question for all you otakus. It is a bit unrelated, but most of this thread seems unrelated, so hopefully it'll blend right in. I wanted to buy a portable headphone amp for my portable music setup, but I have an iPhone 5 as my DAP and unfortunately the Lightning port makes compatibility a bitch. I don't want to buy a DAC on top of an amp, and apparently a lot of the DACs aren't compatible with iOS 7 in any case.

 

My question is this: Would connecting the amp via the headphone jack of my iPhone 5 completely destroy the sound quality of whatever amp I get? I mean, I understand that it won't be as good as bypassing the iPhone's internal amp, but will amping an amped signal really screw everything up?

 

I've read through the forums somewhat, and I am getting a lot of differing opinions. Some people are saying "never do that, it will destroy the world," and others are saying "it'll still sound much better than straight from the DAP." I figured that it might be better to ask in person, and you lot seemed like the right bunch.

 

Thanks ahead of time! I appreciate it. 

Not destroy, but it woulnd't be too good.

 

There are alternatives now in bypassing iPhone 5 DAC mayabe, but most of it require somewhat expensive bypass measures.

 

The iPhone 5 lightning adapters have built in Apple certified DAC's because lightning is now a digital format. The DAC in the adapter is known to not be that good, and thus going iPhone 5 to the adapter to an LOD to an amp is also not a very usable , cheap, or preferable scenario.

post #97802 of 140661

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-17/the-disappearance-of-nagato-yuki-chan-anime-listed

 

This is not the Haruhi we were looking for. Some of us anyway.........

 

Guess any new related work is good news at this point.

post #97803 of 140661

Thank you miceblue for the quick reply, and for the info. Also for the pictures, they helped. Unfortunately, I am limited on budget, so a DAC plus an amp a bit far-fetched atm. Would you recommend buying a good amp (I was looking at the RSA P-51 Mustang) and just running audio through my iPhone's headphone jack (I consider myself a new audiophile, so not a purist), or buying an amp/DAC and using a CCK?


Edited by Nekosou - 12/17/13 at 10:45pm
post #97804 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post

 

My question is this: Would connecting the amp via the headphone jack of my iPhone 5 completely destroy the sound quality of whatever amp I get? I mean, I understand that it won't be as good as bypassing the iPhone's internal amp, but will amping an amped signal really screw everything up?

Short answer: No.

 

Long Answer: All those dang pictures up there.

 

Depending on how you look at it, you really won't notice it either way. With my portable setup, I just have my iPod Touch direct to my IEMs. My portable setup is meant to be portable, which for me is running, jumping, walking, talking, biking, etc. so I don't really care. Test it out and find out what you like and don't like.

post #97805 of 140661
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Not destroy, but it woulnd't be too good.

 

There are alternatives now in bypassing iPhone 5 DAC mayabe, but most of it require somewhat expensive bypass measures.

 

The iPhone 5 lightning adapters have built in Apple certified DAC's because lightning is now a digital format. The DAC in the adapter is known to not be that good, and thus going iPhone 5 to the adapter to an LOD to an amp is also not a very usable , cheap, or preferable scenario.

I figured that the DAC in the converter cable would be crap, so that was certainly expected. =P Thank you for the reply. I am now wishing that I didn't get the iPhone 5 when I upgraded. Unfortunately, my iPod broke at the same time as my phone, so it seemed like the logical choice at the time. 

post #97806 of 140661
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That gives me a headache, with my one whole semester of Japanese under my belt I can read anything that isn't kanji there lol,

 

 

FYI  b1o2r3i4s5 I made the mistake of having spare time and clicking on your MAL again and it depressed me so much I had to teach myself basic CSS stuff tonight and heavily borrowed (ok copied) your design. It really is nice I wish I knew how to do this stuff back when I was in school.

LOL I wanted to take a japanese course too..... never got the chance because of Major and GE courses.....

 

Depressed? my design??? Wait till you see the MAL of some of those CSS gods out there.....

It's like entering the world of Danganronpa (@_@)

 

My drop-down menu and preview image code was borrowed from the gods.....lol

post #97807 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post
 

I figured that the DAC in the converter cable would be crap, so that was certainly expected. =P Thank you for the reply. I am now wishing that I didn't get the iPhone 5 when I upgraded. Unfortunately, my iPod broke at the same time as my phone, so it seemed like the logical choice at the time. 

Heh, I skipped the new Apple stuff because of the lightning port thing. Just such a pain.

post #97808 of 140661
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Originally Posted by VXAce View Post
 

Short answer: No.

 

Long Answer: All those dang pictures up there.

 

Depending on how you look at it, you really won't notice it either way. With my portable setup, I just have my iPod Touch direct to my IEMs. My portable setup is meant to be portable, which for me is running, jumping, walking, talking, biking, etc. so I don't really care. Test it out and find out what you like and don't like.

I like the idea of portable Hi-Fi. Maybe I'm just a hipster. XD Jk, jk. To be honest, I travel a lot, so this would be more for going places other than home (long distance), not necessarily listening to it around the town. 

post #97809 of 140661
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Originally Posted by 0o0o0o View Post

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-17/the-disappearance-of-nagato-yuki-chan-anime-listed

This is not the Haruhi we were looking for. Some of us anyway.........

Guess any new related work is good news at this point.

Totally fine with this :-)


And speaking of portable hi-fi...why not buy a DX50 or a X3?
post #97810 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post

Thank you miceblue for the quick reply, and for the info. Also for the pictures, they helped. Unfortunately, I am limited on budget, so a DAC plus an amp a bit far-fetched atm. Would you recommend buying a good amp (I was looking at the RSA P-51 Mustang) and just running audio through my iPhone's headphone jack (I consider myself a new audiophile, so not a purist), or buying an amp/DAC and using a CCK?
If you don't need the DAC for anything else (i.e. external soundcard for your computer), then I would recommend an amp. I personally haven't used the iPhone 5 to listen to music so I can't say how much of an improvement you would get from an external DAC. The iPhone 4S photos above were mainly for a proof-of-concept, I didn't really critically listen to the system, but I could get a larger sense of a soundstage and better instrument separation, which is what I found the ODAC to do anyway. Both the amp and the DAC are important in the audio chain, but I think upgrading the amp should be of higher priority in this case.

Unless you want to carry this around with your iPhone using an external DAC. XD



I don't think I've seen a Lightning Line Out Dock before, but I'm sure it exists somewhere.
Edited by miceblue - 12/17/13 at 11:05pm
post #97811 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

And speaking of portable hi-fi...why not buy a DX50 or a X3?

I was considering it, but there are several reasons why I don't necessarily want to. First, because I paid far too much money for a 64 GB iPhone 5 to hold music, and it would feel like a waste. Second, because I've always used iPods and so the vast majority of my music library is in iTunes, all nice and organized. I'm sure that my music tags are chaotic beyond belief. DX Third, because I also wanted to be able to use whatever amp I buy with other devices. 

 

I'm sure I will indeed get a better DAP once I have more money. But at the moment, I think an amp is higher priority for me. On that note, <a href = "http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-recorders/product-PCMD100/">this thing</a> looks like it would be an awesome DAP. 

post #97812 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post
 

I like the idea of portable Hi-Fi. Maybe I'm just a hipster. XD Jk, jk. To be honest, I travel a lot, so this would be more for going places other than home (long distance), not necessarily listening to it around the town. 

Ahh, so having a pretty decent portable set up would be pretty important (though I'd just lug my computer with me, granted I could). Though I'd start with considering what you bring with you. A computer + DAC +Amp will probably be more satisfying, you can bring a much larger chunk with you. Unless you really only have like 10 songs of raw awesomeness. My dang iPod is 8GB and it's filled to the brim, pain.

 

(Excuse me for cruddy English if it happens. I always decide to go on head-fi when I'm dead tired. Genius.)

post #97813 of 140661

Once again, thanks for the info miceblue.

 

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I don't think I've seen a Lightning Line Out Dock before, but I'm sure it exists somewhere.

Here's one. http://forzaaudioworks.com/en/product.php?id_product=54

post #97814 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post

 

I'm sure I will indeed get a better DAP once I have more money. But at the moment, I think an amp is higher priority for me. On that note, <a href = "http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-recorders/product-PCMD100/">this thing</a> looks like it would be an awesome DAP. 

Good god, I'd just go get a Fiio X3 or that one outrageous German thing.

post #97815 of 140661
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Originally Posted by Nekosou View Post

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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

And speaking of portable hi-fi...why not buy a DX50 or a X3?
I was considering it, but there are several reasons why I don't necessarily want to. First, because I paid far too much money for a 64 GB iPhone 5 to hold music, and it would feel like a waste. Second, because I've always used iPods and so the vast majority of my music library is in iTunes, all nice and organized. I'm sure that my music tags are chaotic beyond belief. DX Third, because I also wanted to be able to use whatever amp I buy with other devices. 

I'm sure I will indeed get a better DAP once I have more money. But at the moment, I think an amp is higher priority for me. On that note, http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/cat-audio/cat-recorders/product-PCMD100/">this thing looks like it would be an awesome DAP. 
I would actually want to buy that since my binaural microphones are pretty much useless right now for practical purposes since iOS 7 doesn't support the software needed to record audio...


Speaking of which,
@Evetan
Did you receive the details for that project you were thinking about earlier?
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