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Are we talking notebooks or desktops?

Notebooks. I still need it to be powerful enough for graphic intensive work. In case I need to video edit: I do really like Final Cut Pro

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Are there any benefits of having a Mac over a PC? 1500 bones is quite a lot to stomach. 

I like the smooth, usable gestures available in for OS X, as well as Mission Control (turn off the animation though). I actually like Windows 8's Start Menu since I use it as a quick-access program launcher/Mission Control-like option.

 

Keyboard navigation with OS X in Finder is also smoother than in Windows' Windows Explorer. I also find general file browsing to be more convenient in OS X and especially with Quick Look. Windows doesn't have such a feature.


Edited by miceblue - 10/29/13 at 9:41pm
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All the girls will think you're cool, and you'll fit in better if you like to go to Starbucks.

 

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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post
 

 

Are we talking notebooks or desktops?

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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post
 

Are there any benefits of having a Mac over a PC? 1500 bones is quite a lot to stomach. 

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Notebooks. I still need it to be powerful enough for graphic intensive work. In case I need to video edit: I do really like Final Cut Pro

This question never makes any logical sense.

 

Which do you choose? You analyze your own life in terms of what you need. Then you look at what you want to do. Specific programs compatible with the OS you want? Is it's performance or price what you want. Can it do what you need it to do(gaming, video, photo)? Then there is no need to ever ask outsiders this question.

 

This also assumes that if you are asking about Mac vs PC for a new computer that you don't already have a pre set preferntial for an OS for daily use. And thus, asking yourself those questions and doing research along with some other questions will arrive you at the conclusion that you want.

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First, I guess I'm looking at that performance/price ratio.

 

It'd be helpful if perhaps you guys could list some PC alternatives ( in terms of raw specs). Let's say I wanted a snappy computer for video/photo editing etc. 

 

Then I'll narrow it down from there.

 

I'm also thinking about refurbished Macbooks from Apple. Are last year's models necessarily that much different from the newly released Pros?

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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post
 

Notebooks. I still need it to be powerful enough for graphic intensive work. In case I need to video edit: I do really like Final Cut Pro

 

Get a Macbook if you can.

 

In terms of options, you'll have to decide between the 13 inch and the 15 inch macbooks. To put it simply, the 13's have dual core CPU's, and the 15's have quad core CPU's, so it'll be twice as fast for Final Cut Pro's operations.

 

It's up to you whether you want to shell out the extra dough for twice the performance over the 13inch macbooks, I guess it depends on how often you'll be doing heavy lifting with it.

 

If you don't see yourself doing video editing 24/7, then I'd probably get a 13inch model as it's much easier to carry around, especially when travelling overseas. It's a fair chunk cheaper too, I'd be happy to save $800 if I had to wait an extra ten minutes rendering video. 

 

Personally, I think it's worth paying the premium for Apple notebooks over PC notebooks, they may be crappy in terms of value when looking at the specifications, but they're so much easier to live with, in terms of build quality, portability, and battery life.

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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post
 

I'm also thinking about refurbished Macbooks from Apple. Are last year's models necessarily that much different from the newly released Pros?

 

The newer CPU's make a pretty significant difference in terms of battery life (extra hour or two), and graphics performance.

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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post
 

 

The newer CPU's make a pretty significant difference in terms of battery life (extra hour or two), and graphics performance.

I'm looking at http://store.apple.com/us/product/FE664LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-23ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display

 

vs the newer Oct 2013 Macbooks http://store.apple.com/us-hed/buy-mac/macbook-pro 13 in $1699 ver and 15in $1899 ver

 

 

Would it be best to go for the refurb model?


Edited by EveTan - 10/29/13 at 10:20pm
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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post
 

First, I guess I'm looking at that performance/price ratio.

 

It'd be helpful if perhaps you guys could list some PC alternatives ( in terms of raw specs). Let's say I wanted a snappy computer for video/photo editing etc. 

 

Then I'll narrow it down from there.

 

I'm also thinking about refurbished Macbooks from Apple. Are last year's models necessarily that much different from the newly released Pros?

Really....any that have a modern i5 or i7 with 8GB+ of RAM and a SSD will basically lead to an extremely snappy computer for video and photo editing.

 

People overblow GPU's and their usage in those areas. The Intel 4000HD's are more than enough for the hardware acceleration for those programs generally in terms of price for performance. Paying for a Gaming laptop the same price as the Ultrabook at the $1000 price area(which means the Ultrabook will have the SSD and better CPU if we go by best computer performance at that price in that area) for just Video and photo editing will leave the Ultrabook in the lead is what I'm getting at. In that a good GPU does have many good parts for some video editing programs and its acceleration possibilites but its quite overblown right now.

 

So yeah, Samsung Ultrabooks or even Toshiba and Lenovo ones. I'm saying Ultrabook because those (typically) have SSD's, good RAM, and high CPU power but you are indeed paying a premium for the build. If there was a 'regular' laptop with SSD, 8+GB or RAM and a i5 or i7 3xxxm then it will be fine if not better for the price.

 

A lot of differences are under the hood in performance, battery life, cooling, the chips, and ports on the computer. And depending on model you buy, some don't have Retina.

 

Are your fav video and photo programs for Mac as well as Windows? What about other stuff you want to do?

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Originally Posted by EveTan View Post
 

I'm looking at http://store.apple.com/us/product/FE664LL/A/refurbished-macbook-pro-23ghz-quad-core-intel-i7-with-retina-display

 

vs the newer Oct 2013 Macbooks http://store.apple.com/us-hed/buy-mac/macbook-pro 13 in $1699 ver and 15in $1899 ver

 

 

Would it be best to go for the refurb model?

The new 15 inch 2.4GHz seems to be the most comparable to the used referbish. Biggest differences are the CPU(more performance and power saving in new MBP) and the new one having 512GB SSD rather than 256GB in the referbished one. But that is NOT worth $800. Also the GPU is different.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Dayum, the studying for this is too dayum high.

I agree.

 

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Are there any benefits of having a Mac over a PC? 1500 bones is quite a lot to stomach. 

Well, there are some compelling windows ultrabooks that are out or coming out, but none with quad core processors to my knowledge. I'm honestly not sure how much a lower frequency quad core CPU will help you versus a dual core CPU though in all honesty.

The new Haswell CPUs are definitely worth the extra money, IMO.

Some alternatives to the MBP reteyenuh that I've found are:

Samsung ativ book+ (3200x1800 display, dual core Haswell, 128GB SSD, 4GB RAM)

Lenovo Yoga 2 (3200x1800 display, dual core Haswell, storage varies. Probably the best deal right now since one model is or at least was $250 off last time I checked)

Asus Zenbook Infinity (2560x1440 display, dual core Haswell, rest of the specs unknown by me. Will be coming out later this year. Looks the sexiest of everything out there IMO.)

 

If you don't want the reteyenuh display, I was pleasantly surprised by Lenovo's ultrabooks. They seem to be the only ones with decent keyboards for the most part. And they're all black :P

 

If you do end up getting a macbook pro, I'd recommend you wait until you get your .edu email address from your university of choosing, which usually happens fairly quickly. Sometimes you even get them before being accepted. Or you might even be able to use my old one from community college ;)

It knocks $100 off plus 10% off upgrades or something like that. Or Best Buy will give you either $100 or $200 off with student ID (college) depending on whatever discount they're doing at the time.


Edited by mechgamer123 - 10/29/13 at 10:32pm
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Edited by VXAce - 10/29/13 at 10:43pm
post #93749 of 131065
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Originally Posted by deadlylover View Post
 

In terms of options, you'll have to decide between the 13 inch and the 15 inch macbooks. To put it simply, the 13's have dual core CPU's, and the 15's have quad core CPU's, so it'll be twice as fast for Final Cut Pro's operations.

 

Err... that's not exactly how it works... More cores would mean the ability to do more at the same time, but not necessarily faster... However if he is going to use Final Cut Pro, buying a PC in the first place would be useless. Final Cut isn't even for Windows as far as I know.

Truthfully, having more cores is really fun and pretty useful, I have no clue how it works in Macs, but in Windows you can set what cores to run a program and that would actually speed up your work. Allowing a number of cores to be doing intensive work while the rest are used for other things. Very useful when you are working in Photoshop, Premiere Pro, and happen to have a CAD program open at the exact same time. Multitasking is a breeze on a 8 core CPU on stock speeds compared to what an overclocked 4 core can do.

 

However at the same time you have to consider aesthetics, battery life, and what OS you like or are willing to use and a whole bunch of other factors. Price is also a huge factor. For me personally the main points for a PC is familiarity with Windows, price, and fun factor, all while being a pretty OS and how much you can customize. And for Macs (though I don't own one yet) and more specifically Macbooks, is the aesthetics, durability, sound level, and engineering. The Macs are known for how awesome they can be, but even if I got one it would be loaded up with Windows and Linux anyways.

 

If you love Final Cut Pro so much you should probably go for the Mac, Hackintosh laptops are a pain the the rear end, and performance will be horrendous anyways. If you are going to be gaming or doing things that will specifically not run on a Mac, perhaps encoding with x264 (though I swear there is a Mac version), or want to have a computer that will do literally everything even if there are problems, then go PC. Err... but stay away from Windows 8 if you can... it isn't all that great... I have it installed on a few older Dell Workstations and I regret it, though the driver support is amazing, saved my butt when I couldn't find them.

 

Of course all of this is my personal opinion mixed with some facts and stuff. I work in Photoshop, Premiere Pro, Solidworks and encode with MeGUI on a regular basis. All while having some interest in computers and the deeper things. I am a Windows person and I stick around Windows 7 and Windows Vista (yes, Vista, it doesn't actually suck that much).

 

All of this is up to you, figure out what you want your computer to do for you, how much you are willing to pay and how much you are willing to comprise. Then go look at the computers that you can buy, play with them. Then make your decision.

 

Good luck.

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What just happened...

I dunno, what did just happen? 

 

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