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post #92956 of 149632
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

 

Ooh, how's mushishi?

Mushishi is great!

The whole concept of the mushi is really interesting.
Artstyle is like a slightly lower budget version of your usual Gibli movie.
The characters are really fascinating. This is a strictly episodic anime so you won't get to see 99% of the people again, but quiet a few of these characters are a lot more memorable than some supporting characters of 26+ episode animes.
It's a really quiet anime, set in a really interesting world with a perfectly fitting artstyle and loads of memorable characters. Oh and it is usually more sad than cheerful.
 

post #92957 of 149632
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@Bowei: these amazon mp3s sound fine to my ears and my stax. o2smile.gif

My Amazon MP3s are all like V6 or something like that, whatever 142 kbps is.

@ boris
Bahahaha Overdrive. I remember watching that back in 2006 or around then.

post #92958 of 149632
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Mushishi is great!


The whole concept of the mushi is really interesting.

Artstyle is like a slightly lower budget version of your usual Gibli movie.

The characters are really fascinating. This is a strictly episodic anime so you won't get to see 99% of the people again, but quiet a few of these characters are a lot more memorable than some supporting characters of 26+ episode animes.

It's a really quiet anime, set in a really interesting world with a perfectly fitting artstyle and loads of memorable characters. Oh and it is usually more sad than cheerful.

 

All the faces.

All the faces, they are the same.
post #92959 of 149632
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post
 

@Bowei: these amazon mp3s sound fine to my ears and my stax. :o2smile:

Yeah, it may have just been early MP3's

 

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So are you going to major in business or engineering or something else?

 

 

Probably Entrepreneur Minor and Computer Engineering Major

 

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I'll say listen to the panda partially. Regarding White Album, I'm just lashing out to how bland and normal and dumb it looks; judge a book by its cover and all that jizz.

This is one of shows that aren't in intersection thingy in our Venn diagram. I don't think bake has a lot of ecchi, and I'll admit that nise has lots of it. I want to say that its ecchi fanservice is different overall, but other than the ultraawesome toothbrushing hard on action, that's it. I'll say this though for the Monogatari series: I like this kind of harem, not the usual harem. There are fan service and moe, but I don't think it's as blatant as spunk gargle wee*1.

I mean, the (arguably) best show this season, KILL LA KILL, is very blatantly ecchi, what with the hyper exhibitionist sentai suits the main characters wear. But people that thinks too much more than me while watching KILL LA KILL said that Trigger has some message for it and smth smth about be proud of yourself or some such. Maybe Trigger used ecchi fan service with another primary goal, and the fap fuel of the design is a secondary goal. Contrasting that to Idol Wrestling PoS, which its primary, secondary and tertiary goals are without a doubt as fap fuel first (but what I got from the blogosphere is that those that love wrestling as what it is truly, not the fantasy of what wrestling portrays, say that Idol Wrestling PoS is even bad at the wrestling thing). Ecchi fan service is just a mere tool, and I think with enough work, I can overlook the ecchi fan service for the main thing that a studio want to present. That being the Monogatari series and KILL LA KILL, for example, and the counter example for one is Gargantia.

*1: I hope Yahtzee of Zero Punctuation isn't mad at me for adapting his label for CoD and Cod clones for trashy haremoecchi anime.

I agree.

 

Ecchi + Moe does not equal a bad series. 

post #92960 of 149632
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All the faces.

All the faces, they are the same.

Oh that is actually true :D
At least all the children look the same.
Either someone was rather lazy or it has some super philosophical reason behind it.

post #92961 of 149632
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

Oh that is actually true biggrin.gif

At least all the children look the same.

Either someone was rather lazy or it has some super philosophical reason behind it.

No.

It's just some artistic thing. Can't say I like it though.
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post
 

Generally I try and avoid moe/ecchi shows nowadays, but I do watch them once in a while. In moderation, I don't think they're that bad. Not to say I like kyoukai no kanata, but it's moe and I'm watching it. And I'm watching IS2 this season too. Instead of getting mad at it for having a terrible lack of plot, I just laugh at how horribly bad it was done.

Does anyone ever do that? Watch something because they know it's bad, and then laugh at it?

 

I can't resist!

 
Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

That's a bad argument, since I hate ecchi shows with a burning passion. It's the cancer that is killing anime in my eyes.
If you think monogatari series does not have a lot of moe and fanserivce then you probably have gotten used to the cancerous state of a large part of currently airing anime. Booh mechy, booh.

You are now officially among the ranks of people who see moe as a good thing, meaning you are among the people who (in my eyes) invite mediocrity into an otherwise good medium.

 

It's interesting how you're defending the integrity of anime as a medium, as it implies that you view anime as an art form. I don't totally disagree with you, but lets be realistic, anime, like all other forms of entertainment, is a product.

 

You remind me of the music 'fans' that listen to mostly classical rock, and how they schiit on fans of other music genres, such as modern pop/rap, and going on to say that pop/rap isn't real music or other such nonsense. It's interesting seeing the similarities between 'music fans' and 'anime fans (watchers?)', and that's strange, because you don't really see this type of behaviour from fans of other entertainment media, like film for example.

 

When's the last time you heard someone say "GRR, COMEDY MOVIE FANS ARE CORRUPTING THE FILM INDUSTRY". And yet, we both see it all the time when people are talking about how moe is destroying anime.

 

Even here on head-fi, many people have this strange emotional attachment to gear, and when other people speak ill of that persons' favourite headphone/amp, they take it as if it was a personal attack, it's crazy!

 

And yeah, I know I'm kind of generalising a little, but you get my point.

 

Arrghhh, I need a drink. (even in scotch, people are like "lol you drink Johnnie Walker/blended scotch?, you're such a pleb with cheap taste")

 

G44

 

THE GENERAL ACCEPTANCE OF TOXIC BEHAVIOUR IN HOBBIES HAS LEFT ME IN DESPAIR!

post #92963 of 149632
Integrity of animu huh? It's all in good fun, what's wrong with a lil moeblob every now and again. Anyway, boy was the original broadcast of Haruhi a lot of fun, well it was anyway til Haruhi mania took over and everyone was loathe to associate with it.

See exhibit A:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Utnb5Mru_zo

Best thing ever, or worst? You be the judge
post #92964 of 149632
I'm a little over exaggerating the whole moe hate thing. But that doesn't matter, because every community has its need for someone telling everyone how the system is breaking down.
post #92965 of 149632
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Integrity of animu huh? It's all in good fun, what's wrong with a lil moeblob every now and again. Anyway, boy was the original broadcast of Haruhi a lot of fun, well it was anyway til Haruhi mania took over and everyone was loathe to associate with it.

See exhibit A:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Utnb5Mru_zo

Best thing ever, or worst? You be the judge

I personally don't think that moe is something like the first horseman of the anime apocalypse.
A lot of new shows are overdoing it, but it's pretty easy to avoid these infected shows.
I don't know much about how anime changed over the years, but I can't imagine that there was soooo much less moe involved in anime 15-20 years ago.
Maybe the cancer already grew too big in me, but I can't imagine a world without moe anime :P
I'm also not sure if the world would be a better place without them. It can't possibly be that all the moe anime studios suddenly start producing incredible and innovative anime once the moe phase is over.

Was there really that much hype around Haruhi?
All I know is that I'm really enjoying it so far :)

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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

I'm a little over exaggerating the whole moe hate thing. But that doesn't matter, because every community has its need for someone telling everyone how the system is breaking down.

 

:p

 
Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Was there really that much hype around Haruhi?
All I know is that I'm really enjoying it so far :)

 

It was pretty huge back in the day!

 

I think you'll really like the movie, it's one of my favourite anime movies.

post #92967 of 149632
Yeah the movie is much more somber in tone and theres a strong focus on Kyon, so it's pretty great. Haruhi as a series was great cause it's quite adept at juggling multiple genres and moods, and it featured a memorable cast. The WTF factor of the original broadcast was pretty high; it's definitely one of my favorite series
post #92968 of 149632
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Originally Posted by Idsynchrono_24 View Post

Yeah the movie is much more somber in tone and theres a strong focus on Kyon, so it's pretty great. Haruhi as a series was great cause it's quite adept at juggling multiple genres and moods, and it featured a memorable cast. The WTF factor of the original broadcast was pretty high; it's definitely one of my favorite series

Is there something like a unoriginal broadcast?
And what is it with people debating about the order of the episodes?
So far, this anime has a pretty clear timeline IMO.

post #92969 of 149632
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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

I'm a little over exaggerating the whole moe hate thing. But that doesn't matter, because every community has its need for someone telling everyone how the system is breaking down.

Sir you have not exaggerated it enough.

 

Keep up the good work.

post #92970 of 149632
I think you might be watching it in the new chronological order. When the series first aired it was completely jumbled up, and the very first episode (0) actually took place towards the very end of the series. Just for reference, the true final episode of the show aired towards the middle. It was very weird for the time and prompted a lot of discussion as to what the hell was goin on. I personally prefer the original broadcast order as it made the show more interesting at the time. Played in straight order, kinda takes away from the WTF factor a bit I feel, again, it's one of those, "you had to have been there" kinda things
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