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post #75931 of 140494

I don't see the point of getting pissed off at new gaming consoles.

If you don't like it, or the way they did their thing, just don't support them by not buying their product.

Or if you must, buy it anyway and keep complaining, maybe they will heed your ranting for their next product.

Both consoles are riddled with gimmicks, at this point there's not much interest in nitpicking all of that.

What matters most is what kind of titles they will eventually receive--which is not foreseeable.

The other thing that matters the most is how much enjoyment it can bring you.

 

Price? They will put something. Stupid price or not, up to them.

They will face reality seeing how well things sell.

 

Most pointless of all is the way the console will look.

Not completely pointless, alright, but what matters more to you? Form or function?

I wouldn't care if the PS4 had all its guts strapped in a transparent tupperware. If that enclosure will keep it safe enough, and will not take up too much space, then it's all good.

PS3 was pretty IMO, but curved top means nothing can be stacked on top of it. Meanwhile the PS2 slim had a flip cover, which also means nothing can go above it, and needs a big clearance space to open the tray.

The debate of form follows function, or form defines function is something that alters around in importance in the designing world. Finding a good balance between the two is ideal for both usability and appeal. But if it fails in appeal but excels in function... why not?

It's not like consoles are meant to be glass cased and shown off with other expensive wares in the household.

 

Also fanboyism is stupid.

Why must one that likes Playstation absolutely have to hate Xbox? Vice versa.

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**edit**

okay, my post somehow posted itself so this is redundant.

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Didn't people feel similar to the WIiU when it was launched?

 

"Ooooooooh that's a TERRIBLE name! Wii2 would have been better!"

 

"Wii-U, Wii-U, Wii-U, Wii-U! Oh what's that? Is that an ambulance coming for Nintendo?"

 

"Huehuehue, WIiU. I'll stick my WIi in you U too."

 

"WOOOOOOOOW that controller is gimmicky! I can see Microsoft and Sony laughing their a&&es off right now"

 

"Who the f*&^ wants to use a f*&^^ing tablet to game? I bet it's not even capacitive!"

 

"What the f^(#, why is there so much social media s*&%?? Why can't Nintendo just focus on the hard-core fans?"

 

 

 

..........yup. You can say the same thing about the original Wii too. Or the PS3 and its insane price tag.

post #75934 of 140494

I feel similarily.

 

Don't like it? Ok sure. Not gonna buy it? Cool?

 

So wait, you aren't going to buy it and odn't like it and haven't personally used it for a prolonged time but are still schiitting on it? Why? 

post #75935 of 140494
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Its not hard to defend their descision.

It is. I have no idea why they weren't trying to please the gamers first. I mean, they are the people that buy the hardware for full price at the beginning of the generation. Can't really imagine the "typical consumer" standing in line or even waiting for the console at launch. But I can imagine gamers doing so.
Sure, if someone likes TV or NFL and things like that, the added features might be great. But is it worth paying the full price (as I've said, TheHutt asks £399 for a bundle. Even if placeholder, how much was X360 at launch? Still much money), especially since many of them are already in SmartTVs and other, cheaper devices?
I think no and except for the few people that HAVE to own the latest things just for the sake of owning them and showing off, most "consumers" will likely wait for some price drop and/or an actual, established games library. What's left, are gamers, especially the core crowd. And their first impressions are almost exclusively negative. Sure, there are good things about it as well, but they are lost in the informational chaos and (honestly, for the most part) well-deserved critique/backlash.
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It is. I have no idea why they weren't trying to please the gamers first. I mean, they are the people that buy the hardware for full price at the beginning of the generation. Can't really imagine the "typical consumer" standing in line or even waiting for the console at launch. But I can imagine gamers doing so.
Sure, if someone likes TV or NFL and things like that, the added features might be great. But is it worth paying the full price (as I've said, TheHutt asks £399 for a bundle. Even if placeholder, how much was X360 at launch? Still much money), especially since many of them are already in SmartTVs and other, cheaper devices?
I think no and except for the few people that HAVE to own the latest things just for the sake of owning them and showing off, most "consumers" will likely wait for some price drop and/or an actual, established games library. What's left, are gamers, especially the core crowd. And their first impressions are almost exclusively negative. Sure, there are good things about it as well, but they are lost in the informational chaos and (honestly, for the most part) well-deserved critique/backlash.

Which is the first and foremost problem with the complaints.

 

Why do they need to please gamers first?

 

Microsoft has the data, hard staticstics and numbers.

 

Did you know that the Kinect, netflix, family games and the use of the Xbox 360 as a home entertainment do it all console was one of the largest things that kept it alive and as the 'premier' console? Their numbers of sales, buying of software, and other stuff show that they have a very strong market of those people. If not even stronger than gamers.

 

For the last 2 years of the 360's life. The home entertainment section of it was largely why the sales were still going on. Microsoft tested it, and it blew up and sold like hot cakes. Having a 'home' section on teh Xbox that people can access sports, games and their movies on through 3rd party apps. 

 

A gamer will already buy either an PS4 or Xbox One for their games. They have to more or less as they are gamers and they want to play. Now, how will that please their new market that now makes up a huge percent of people buying Xbox's?

 

The families I mean. How will 'they' go about marketing the new console so that on day one. EVERYONE will like it. From the gamer, to the princess girl, to the dad who watches sports, and to the mom who wants to dance all in one?

 

So what really is there 'not to get'? Its easy to get why they did this. 

 

I personally don't like it. This is personal bias. If I was Microsoft, this would be a no brainer in what they are doing. Will it succeed? Who knows, but their current hard numbers, analyzation of the future and trends show them their target audience percentages.


Edited by bowei006 - 5/22/13 at 12:25pm
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My new goal in the hi-fi business is to settle on 1 full-sized dynamic or planar magnetic headphone with ODAC/O2 combo, 1 portable headphone or earphone or custom IEM with C5 amp, and 1 full-sized electrostatic headphone (i.e. Stax Lambda). So much stuff...but at least I don't have to worry about DACs/amps with the exception of the electrostatic headphone. >.>

I can sell you my gear off to you. Moving on now.

Thanks. I appreciate the offer!

I'll have to see if the price is right for me though; my future outlook for school might get expensive quickly. >_<

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Also fanboyism is stupid.

Why must one that likes Playstation absolutely have to hate Xbox? Vice versa.

 

I agree. Why fanboyism exists is beyond me. I don't care what haters will say. I'm going to enjoy playing the exclusives for each respective console. At the end of the day, I'm only going to care about the games.

 

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Didn't people feel similar to the WIiU when it was launched?

 

"Ooooooooh that's a TERRIBLE name! Wii2 would have been better!"

 

"Wii-U, Wii-U, Wii-U, Wii-U! Oh what's that? Is that an ambulance coming for Nintendo?"

 

"Huehuehue, WIiU. I'll stick my WIi in you U too."

 

"WOOOOOOOOW that controller is gimmicky! I can see Microsoft and Sony laughing their a&&es off right now"

 

"Who the f*&^ wants to use a f*&^^ing tablet to game? I bet it's not even capacitive!"

 

"What the f^(#, why is there so much social media s*&%?? Why can't Nintendo just focus on the hard-core fans?"

 

 

 

..........yup. You can say the same thing about the original Wii too. Or the PS3 and its insane price tag.

 


Not enough marketing for the Wii U. Casual consumers will just think the tablet is another attachment for the Wii. Obviously the major concern here is games. As with any major console debut, it'll be a while before AAA titles appear. This is why I've never bought a console on release date. I wait 2-3 years when the price has dropped and there are plenty of popular games to play.

 

 

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Did you know that the Kinect, netflix, family games and the use of the Xbox 360 as a home entertainment do it all console was one of the largest things that kept it alive and as the 'premier' console? Their numbers of sales, buying of software, and other stuff show that they have a very strong market of those people. If not even stronger than gamers.

 

For the last 2 years of the 360's life. The home entertainment section of it was largely why the sales were still going on. Microsoft tested it, and it blew up and sold like hot cakes. Having a 'home' section on teh Xbox that people can access sports, games and their movies on through 3rd party apps. 

 

Source?

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I agree. Why fanboyism exists is beyond me. I don't care what haters will say. I'm going to enjoy playing the exclusives for each respective console. At the end of the day, I'm only going to care about the games.

 

 


Not enough marketing for the Wii U. Casual consumers will just think the tablet is another attachment for the Wii. Obviously the major concern here is games. As with any major console debut, it'll be a while before AAA titles appear. This is why I've never bought a console on release date. I wait 2-3 years when the price has dropped and there are plenty of popular games to play.

 

 

 

Source?

The Xbox One already screams at people 'Home entertainment is uber profitable'.

 

 

And here for sales

http://bgr.com/2013/02/12/microsoft-xbox-360-sales-2013-325481/

 

Need I say more?

 

It's hard right now to find the articles but the 360's strategy in the past two years has been on media streaming applications, streamlined 'homey' interfaces and the home experience.

 

The unit itself and its strategy is the source itself.

 

Basing the thought on the fact that home entertainment is really profitable seen here:

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/press/2013/apr13/04-18fy13Q3earningsPR.aspx

 

As Microsoft releases massive profit in their entertainment dvision.

 

The question now for Microsoft is on how they can get more people onto their side?

http://www.factbrowser.com/tags/xbox_360/

 

Statistics that are cited in each link of that page show a trend with the Xbox 360 demographic actually being the opposite of what Microsoft targeted. But this actually can show a bigger reason for why they are doing what they did.

 

analyzing: 

The 360 is the most 'young people' console, the console used games are played on the most, amongst other things.

 

So why the focus on the media home experience? Because it works. With the adoption of the tile based Xbox 360 screen a year back. sales have been pretty steady and even going up unlike the PS3. The users are indeed using the media.

 

Just because the young gamers belong to one group doesn't mean they aren't using the 360 for its other purpose. The adoption of the media home and the usage of it shows to be successful.

 

Gamers are going to buy the consoles. Now, how can they target the OTHER people that aren't buying their consoles. They know they have a strong exclusive game lineup and have 360-noscopecodextreme fanboys. How will they get the dad with his children to buy the Xbox One

 

And the answer was shown in the marketing vid.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Did you know that the Kinect, netflix, family games and the use of the Xbox 360 as a home entertainment do it all console was one of the largest things that kept it alive and as the 'premier' console? Their numbers of sales, buying of software, and other stuff show that they have a very strong market of those people. If not even stronger than gamers.

For the last 2 years of the 360's life. The home entertainment section of it was largely why the sales were still going on. Microsoft tested it, and it blew up and sold like hot cakes. Having a 'home' section on teh Xbox that people can access sports, games and their movies on through 3rd party apps. 
The ones that weren't available in a lot of countries. And it doesn't look like it's gonna change much.
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The families I mean. How will 'they' go about marketing the new console so that on day one. EVERYONE will like it. From the gamer, to the princess girl, to the dad who watches sports, and to the mom who wants to dance all in one?
So they are going to compete with AppleTV. Apple, FFS - kings of making people want things they didn't want(-/ed before). Not that they managed to beat them before. I don't really think they succeed this time. An Apple device has suddenly became less overpriced. It's an accomplishment.
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No, I absolutely agree with Jgray. The Dualshock controllers induce cramps after a little while because they're so small...

Eh, personal preference. The Dualshock 4 is slightly bigger (more of just wider when it comes to length) and the new XBox One controller is basically the same with the exception of the battery pack no longer jutting out.

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The ones that weren't available in a lot of countries. And it doesn't look like it's gonna change much.
So they are going to compete with AppleTV. Apple, FFS - kings of making people want things they didn't want(-/ed before). Not that they managed to beat them before. I don't really think they succeed this time. An Apple device has suddenly became less overpriced. It's an accomplishment.

Apple TV isn't as big as Xbox 360.

 

A huge number of people use their consoles as media streamers for hulu and netflix.

 

Again, a lot of bias in you young one. 

 

Just looked up what neogaf was as you link to it a lot. Which makes a lot of sense.

post #75943 of 140494
Thread Starter 

Need a bluetooth adapter for my Wii remotes. Turns out Dolphin can run Galaxy 2 pretty nicely on my rig.

post #75944 of 140494

Back on topic:

 

/r/anime posted a good Shingeki no Kyojin Fanart album 

http://imgur.com/a/iFe3P

 

A lot of them are parodies of other anime.

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No, I absolutely agree with Jgray. The Dualshock controllers induce cramps after a little while because they're so small...
Eh, personal preference. The Dualshock 4 is slightly bigger (more of just wider when it comes to length) and the new XBox One controller is basically the same with the exception of the battery pack no longer jutting out.

Then the XBox controller is still superior to Dualshock 4 then, size wise.
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