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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Sorry about that...

 

What the... No, not that one. It was different than that. I just can't recall...

 

This should be challenging

 

Flashing BIOS? Just to be sure, I won't have to this on a compatible mobo right?

A compatible one from the gate no.

 

There are bios updates out for more CPU support. You have to check if the mobo you got has the revision update already for the CPU one you want.

For example. CPU X is supported only with Revision 3. The mobo being sold is Revision 1. You buy the mobo. When you get it and boot it up, you have to then flash the bios with the file you downloaded from another computer to revision 3 before the comptuer will actually work.

post #45752 of 129699
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

A compatible one from the gate no.

 

There are bios updates out for more CPU support. You have to check if the mobo you got has the revision update already for the CPU one you want.

For example. CPU X is supported only with Revision 3. The mobo being sold is Revision 1. You buy the mobo. When you get it and boot it up, you have to then flash the bios with the file you downloaded from another computer to revision 3 before the comptuer will actually work.

 

Ah... flash as in update the driver?

OK.

 

Looks like extreme4/6 supports E3-1230V2. I guess I'm changing to that then. Let me revise the build

post #45753 of 129699
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

Electric cars are cool!

(Just because I'm a electronics guy biggrin.gif)

 

TBH I like the riding more than the driving...
it's so annoying to control everything (from my golf car driving experience)

Riding is more fun, until someone hits you. There's so many cars in America that it's really scary riding motorbikes in the city.

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@mechy, and city driving is frustrating as crap. People acting like they own the road and not signalling and stuff. God. Highway driving is a bit more forgivable since they are more leeway for manouvering at least. Country driving in Malaysia is not recommended lol. At least I don't like it much. In the US maybe since the countryside is waaaaaay larger than in Malaysia, where it's more woodlands and cramp dirt roads. not all mind you. We're not that backwater of a country.
I'll admit electric cars theoretically are better in the city and if you're going to live in the city only. Going anywhere long distance and needs endurance, fuel cars > electric cars. Theoretically at least.
@twin, not a lot of bikes in Malaysia, mostly because they tend to get run over a lot. Because the drivers in Malaysia is bat **** horrible and insane.

Country driving in my part of the US is great. Most of the roads are paved really well and there's nothing but farmland as far as the eye can see. And the legal speed limit is somewhere around 100kph, but since nobody's around, you can usually go faster. Much faster if you feel like testing out how fast your vehicle can go :)

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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

Actual budget was about $1k. Dunno now though. Hopefully my father would be generous enough

Initial build was for me to watch my animes/movies/prawns/etc and gaming would be second

 

Intel Core I5 3570 3.4Ghz (I could go with the cheaper 3550, but I could also go to the more "future-proof" route)
Asrock Z77 Extreme 6 Motherboard ( It was either this or the Extreme 4. Unless you can get something else that has 8 SATA slots, be my guess)
Gskill SNIPER 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz High Performance RAM 
Western Digital 3TB Caviar Green HDD (THIS IS A MUST!)
Crucial M4 128GB SSD ( ALSO A MUST!)
CoolerMaster CM690 II Advanced Casing (USB3.0/Window) (Seriously wanna change this. It's really fugly. Can I just change to any case or are there specified cases?)
Corsair HX750 
MSI HD7870 Twinfrozr 2GB DDR5 (Not sure about this though)
CoolerMaster V6GT Cooling Fan (Not sure about this too)
Asus 23" vs239h-p (any monitor as long as there's HDMI slot. I wanna play my PS3 on this too later on)
Logitech G105 (I could go with a cheap office keyboard though)
Logitech G500 (same as the keyboard)

Hmm, I would have posted suggestions, but looks like a lot of other people chimed in with suggestions already...

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Man... Hella putting in effort building your rig. I just bought random shiit that was on sale and looked to see if the part was reliable or not lol
post #45755 of 129699
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Originally Posted by 28980 View Post

Man... Hella putting in effort building your rig. I just bought random shiit that was on sale and looked to see if the part was reliable or not lol

It really isn't that hard yeah, but if you want a full good setup, compatability and everything is important.

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It really isn't that hard yeah, but if you want a full good setup, compatability and everything is important.

Well yeah I made sure everything worked together but most of my parts were impulse buys
post #45757 of 129699
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Well yeah I made sure everything worked together but most of my parts were impulse buys

 

Well, my first PC, so I wanna make it good

 

Here's the updated list :

Intel Xeon E3-1230V2
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Corsair Vengence 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz High Performance RAM 
Western Digital 3TB Caviar Green HDD (Not sure if I should change this?)
Intel 330 Series 120GB SSD 
Xpredator X1 Black, Red (I was desperate... Doesn't look too bad anyway)
Corsair HX750 (Not sure to what should I replace this with. How to know the min power consumption anyway?)
MSI HD7870 Twinfrozr 2GB DDR5 (What other variation you guys recommend? The other variation is from Sapphire. Just a tad cheaper)
Hyper 212 Evo Turbo (Any better suggestion for this?)
Asus 23" vs239h-p (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G105 (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G500 (Any better suggestion for this?)

post #45758 of 129699
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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Well, my first PC, so I wanna make it good

 

Here's the updated list :

Intel Xeon E3-1230V2
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Corsair Vengence 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz High Performance RAM 
Western Digital 3TB Caviar Green HDD (Not sure if I should change this?)
Intel 330 Series 120GB SSD 
Xpredator X1 Black, Red (I was desperate... Doesn't look too bad anyway)
Corsair HX750 (Not sure to what should I replace this with. How to know the min power consumption anyway?)
MSI HD7870 Twinfrozr 2GB DDR5 (What other variation you guys recommend? The other variation is from Sapphire. Just a tad cheaper)
Hyper 212 Evo Turbo (Any better suggestion for this?)
Asus 23" vs239h-p (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G105 (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G500 (Any better suggestion for this?)

Looks decent.

 

Does the Extreme 4 support it?

 

You could change it

 

Decent case, is there any others you like?

post #45759 of 129699
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Looks decent.

 

Does the Extreme 4 support it?

 

You could change it

 

Decent case, is there any others you like?

 

On a tight budget so...

 

Asrock's site says yes. Unless they are lying

 

I think I'll stick with this as of now

 

Not that within this price though

post #45760 of 129699
Dammit, I've been presented with yet another path to choose from in SnU: jgray91 vs Saya no Uta (Click to show)
call MC the lost and insane or call Ryouko the badass doctor

Meh I'll leave that for tomorrow.
post #45761 of 129699
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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Well, my first PC, so I wanna make it good

 

Here's the updated list :

Intel Xeon E3-1230V2
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Corsair Vengence 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz High Performance RAM 
Western Digital 3TB Caviar Green HDD (Not sure if I should change this?)
Intel 330 Series 120GB SSD 
Xpredator X1 Black, Red (I was desperate... Doesn't look too bad anyway)
Corsair HX750 (Not sure to what should I replace this with. How to know the min power consumption anyway?)
MSI HD7870 Twinfrozr 2GB DDR5 (What other variation you guys recommend? The other variation is from Sapphire. Just a tad cheaper)
Hyper 212 Evo Turbo (Any better suggestion for this?)
Asus 23" vs239h-p (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G105 (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G500 (Any better suggestion for this?)

For the PSU, you can calculate how much power you will need here: http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index.html

For the graphics card, I've heard that the 7850 gives you better bang for your buck than the 7870.

The Hyper 212 is a good pick as long as you don't get RAM with heatsinks that stick up more than a couple inches...

You might look at Acer monitors and see if they're any cheaper than Asus monitors...

post #45762 of 129699
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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Well, my first PC, so I wanna make it good

 

Here's the updated list :

Intel Xeon E3-1230V2
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Corsair Vengence 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz High Performance RAM 
Western Digital 3TB Caviar Green HDD (Not sure if I should change this?)
Intel 330 Series 120GB SSD 
Xpredator X1 Black, Red (I was desperate... Doesn't look too bad anyway)
Corsair HX750 (Not sure to what should I replace this with. How to know the min power consumption anyway?)
MSI HD7870 Twinfrozr 2GB DDR5 (What other variation you guys recommend? The other variation is from Sapphire. Just a tad cheaper)
Hyper 212 Evo Turbo (Any better suggestion for this?)
Asus 23" vs239h-p (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G105 (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G500 (Any better suggestion for this?)

for the keyboard since you'd just pay extra for macros keys, cheapest one w/ best reviews would do fine.
Never understood the point in extra for mouse >_> probably b/c i never did hardcore gaming.
The GPU is up to you, just look at the warranties. 
The PSU depends on the tdp of all the other parts of your computer. I think you're fine.
3tb is a lot :0 I have 750 gb and barely go over 220ish gb. But then again I don't game/hold music (for now).

Edit: nvm you using xeon probably implies u'll need 3TB
mech did a great job :D


Edited by MrViolin - 12/25/12 at 12:36pm
post #45763 of 129699
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Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

Dammit, I've been presented with yet another path to choose from in SnU: jgray91 vs Saya no Uta (Click to show)
call MC the lost and insane or call Ryouko the badass doctor
Meh I'll leave that for tomorrow.

SAVE!

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

 

Then call the badass doctor

Then call the MC after you finish the other ending...

 

post #45764 of 129699
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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

I don't get much but... I think I can understand it. FYI, the extreme4 isn't ATX too. It's a bit shorter. The extreme6 is ATX though

 

I don't think I'll get a hybrid. I'll get the normal SSD+HDD

Depending on what RAM you get there might be some clearance issues. I know my RAM and heatsink are having some issues with clearance because of how close the RAM is to the heatsink/processor.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

 

Sometimes. But none the less it has deals a lot and can get better performance than many air coolers for lower price. Buy what you want, air or closed loop. It's up to the buyer. 

 

There are quite some SSHD's for sale for the same price as HDD's. They also have good feedback. Nowadays, for their price they can be replacements. A 500GB SSHD right now is $68.

We used to do 250 a night.

It's ATX standard, +- a few cm but it is still mid atx.

 

Yes that is much better. SSD and HDD. If you have the money

 

.You just did!??

 

...lolipops, butcracks and pandas

 

That was the original one.

 

You need the correct socket, The correct same exact model cpu support, and native controllers in your case.

 

It can't jus support Xeon. It needs to suport the model you want. Best to get boards that support it standard. Flashing your bios is quite annoying for most cases.

Meh.

 

Again, meh. Remember, the platters are puny and if he's going to access any total of files that's above 8GB and if/when the NAND, which basically acts as cache, doesn't flush, his performance will drop drastically. I would just get a good 3.5" HDD with a higher platter density. WD10EZEX is bare minimum or the 1TB/Platter WD Green counterpart. He can also go with a Seagate or Hitachi 1TB/Platter drive if he wants.

 

Mid ATX? That doesn't exist you idiot.

 

I thought it was something like candyfloss, buttcracks, and pandas.

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Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Well, my first PC, so I wanna make it good

 

Here's the updated list :

Intel Xeon E3-1230V2
Asrock Z77 Extreme 4 Motherboard
Corsair Vengence 2x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz High Performance RAM 
Western Digital 3TB Caviar Green HDD (Not sure if I should change this?)
Intel 330 Series 120GB SSD 
Xpredator X1 Black, Red (I was desperate... Doesn't look too bad anyway)
Corsair HX750 (Not sure to what should I replace this with. How to know the min power consumption anyway?)
MSI HD7870 Twinfrozr 2GB DDR5 (What other variation you guys recommend? The other variation is from Sapphire. Just a tad cheaper)
Hyper 212 Evo Turbo (Any better suggestion for this?)
Asus 23" vs239h-p (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G105 (Any better suggestion for this?)
Logitech G500 (Any better suggestion for this?)

The motherboard I'm a bit meh about. Vengeance RAM is fine, I guess. I just don't like the look of it. I would go for the low profile ones if you don't want any clearance issues if you're going with air cooling due to the fact that you aren't going for a standard ATX sized motherboard.

 

People need to stop calling these drives by the Caviar name. The Caviar name is dead. Now it's just WD Blue, WD Black, etc. instead of Caviar Blue, Caviar Black, etc.

 

There's a list of recommended SSDs on OCN. Like what Sean, the maker of the guide, says, just go for the least expensive one on the list at the time since they all perform relatively well.

 

The case...meh with me but if you like it and if it has decent airflow.

Seems fine. You can use PCPartPicker to determine the power consumption or look at things like benchmarks that show power consumption under load of i7 chips. PCPartPicker doesn't have server processors in its database so it doesn't account for the TDP of that.

Sapphire is a good company too, but just go with the MSi.

I usually look at IPS and VA monitors (and PLS) so I usually don't give much of a damn about TNs but I've heard good things about Asus monitors.

 

The keyboard...meh to me since I have a Filco mechanical keyboard but if you're fine with rubber domes, I guess.

Issues with acceleration due to the fact that it's using, I believe the Avago ADNS-9080 or some other laser sensor that's close to that. I would go for the G400 as it can go up to 3200dpi I believe. Optical these days is probably the best way to go IMO.

post #45765 of 129699
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Originally Posted by mechgamer123 View Post

For the PSU, you can calculate how much power you will need here: http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index.html

For the graphics card, I've heard that the 7850 gives you better bang for your buck than the 7870.

The Hyper 212 is a good pick as long as you don't get RAM with heatsinks that stick up more than a couple inches...

You might look at Acer monitors and see if they're any cheaper than Asus monitors...

 

No Xeon. I just chose i7. Looks like about 490W. I guess I can lower my PSU to 600W then

Really? I think it was the other way around. I know that 7850 OC'ed will get 7870. I need to read on this

Will Corsair Vengence give this problem?

Let me source that. I just chose this because it has HDMI, which I want to hook my PS3 later on LOL

 

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Originally Posted by MrViolin View Post

for the keyboard since you'd just pay extra for macros keys, cheapest one w/ best reviews would do fine.
Never understood the point in extra for mouse >_> probably b/c i never did hardcore gaming.
The GPU is up to you, just look at the warranties. 
The PSU depends on the tdp of all the other parts of your computer. I think you're fine.
3tb is a lot :0 I have 750 gb and barely go over 220ish gb. But then again I don't game/hold music (for now).

Edit: nvm you using xeon probably implies u'll need 3TB
mech did a great job :D

 

OK. Not a gamer myself. I never even regularly use my mouse with 5 buttons...

I could fill 3TB in a few months. My storage of 5.8TB has about 1.2TB left. I could fill them up but I'm using 1TB internal and 1TB+1TB externals to torrent and I need to manage them properly

 

Mind you this is a normal PC and not a server

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