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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

I think Chuunibyou, Psychoo Pass, Sukitee iiayo, Btoom are giving it a run for its money though

No. None of these shows even approach the cinematic magnificence that is Girls Und Panzer. 

 

And BTOOM! LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL.

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Hmm, well the higher end senns are completely different beasts from their cheaper models.
I'll check those songs out when I get home...

I suppose. I might try em one day... btw I put my Zune up for Sale. I finally deleted the 70gbs of crummy lossy DnB I had. So I think I can live with 4gbs of 320k lossy for a while. Besides I don't need 3000 Dub Step songs... I have about 400 favs <3 

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I don't know. It just seems to me that a lot of things that people say about gear and audio stem more from abstract reasoning, emotional desires, and culturally praised aesthetics applied to reality and experience, rather than the other way around. Personally, I think a lot of the words people use to describe things around here don't make any sense or even have anything to do with reality. For example, take the descriptor "analytical." I've always thought that this was a nothing word. What the heck is that even supposed to mean? I don't see how such a thing is even possible. To me, it seems like a word people just use when they want to flaunt their "sophisticated" audiophile tastes or something, or to use to try and say "eww neutrality!" and defend their romantic fantasies and beliefs. Same with "fun" and stuff like that. In some cases I guess some people are simply using such words as a codename for a certain type of frequency balance, but a headphone's sound signature and how it relates to your personal preferences is another matter altogether which could be described and discussed in infinitely clearer and more efficient ways. They're obviously trying to communicate something but they way they're going about it just renders it completely incomprehensible and up to be (mis)interpreted in whatever way the reader happens to do so.

 

Myself, I'm like the total opposite of the person who tries to "hear everything," and I simultaneously dislike the idea of "fun" headphones. Maybe it's things like that that prevent me from being able to understand the "rules."

 

Once again, none of this is directly aimed at any specific person. Just me ranting about junk...

 

Analytical is one of the easier ones lol. In a vacuum it basically means it's very neutral sounding with seperation well enough to allow the user to "analyze" the piece. Making it easier to hear details and such. There are other connotations I suppose but that's the basics of it. People do say some really...stupid statements sometimes though. Like if someone in a review starts talking about, "The lush, liquid gold mid range is the life of the rose colored beautiful sound signature."........I just dip out of the review. That literally means crap to me lol except that you may or may not want to make love to that headphone. Like I said earlier, I take fun as not a definition of it's own but rather an opposition to another. As in a can that is seen as analytical is not seen as "fun" or often said "colored". Probably means it isn't very neutral and is suited towards not proper reproduction of the recording, but an interpretation of it. Grado cans fit this description perfectly. They "color" the recording to give it a sound that the engineers feel are more enjoyable than just a neutral true reproduction of the recording. So in this sense, the basics of the word "fun" does not necessarily have a specific meaning in and of it's own without context. It just simply means that the headphone produces a sound that is different from proper reproduction. Still dunno if that makes sense to you or not....

 

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I would suggest the HD600 over the HD650. The HD600 has just slightly elevated midbass, while the HD650 has even more bass and less treble. However, I find the HD600 to sound almost perfectly balanced. It can do anything from classical to anisong very well. Even very poorly recorded songs sound great through the HD600. Also, from the first time I heard them, the vocals on the HD600 blew me away smily_headphones1.gif I've heard people saying they do vocals better than the 650, but ymmv.
Check out the review in my sig for my full review, but I really do think the HD600 would suit your wants and needs very well.

 

I'll look into the 600. I've had a brief listen to the HD650 before but I have no real opinion of it. It was way too little a demo. Right now I am on a journey to find reviews upon reviews on cans of interest.

 

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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

... Byer Dt 880 Premium 600 ohm... [better than both HD cans <3] but that's just my opinion and I ofc hate Senn cans :D, they all sound Tinny and shrilly to me ^^ but I'm a bass head so I prefer the warmer Byer House sound over Senn's 

 

Nope, no 600 ohm cans I've tried in my amp have felt sufficiently powered.

 

 

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I dunno... it's... like... the only currently airing show I'm following? tongue.gif

 

 

I disagree that the "ultimate can" should be unforgiving.  "Unforgiving" to me is a synonym for "has uncontrolled treble peaks messing up the sound, especially with sibilant recordings".

 

My approach is to find the ultimate cans and EQ for different needs

 

One thing that does wonders for improving the "forgivingness" of cans is this spectral compressor

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/reafir_by_cockos

its compression mode is always in my processing chain

 

 

Downloading!  But... ep13?  I only see 12

 

Unforgiving to me just means it in no way colors the sound and is near completely flat with excellent staging so when fed a bad recording, it then points out those aspects that made it bad in a blatant manner. I touched on this earlier, but there were some tracks that I am perfectly fine with listening to on my equipment, but it only took a few times on the SR009 to convince me never to seriously listen to them on there again or risk unenjoyment :(. As far as EQ is concerned, I really only believe in light EQ of bass or treble at the moment. I believe that headphones should be enjoyed for their sound signature and they themselves are an art to be appreciated. Beyond just being good and bad, some headphones aren't better or worse than others, they just sound....different! And that's lovely and I wish to just enjoy that one day. My collection of cans that I enjoy switching between when I feel like a certain sound.

 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

I think Chuunibyou, Psychoo Pass, Sukitee iiayo, Btoom are giving it a run for its money though

 

Chuunibyou....is so....excuse me, RIKKA is so awesome. KyoAni proves once agsin to be god tier.


Edited by B-Dawk20 - 12/4/12 at 8:06pm
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Analytical is one of the easier ones lol. In a vacuum it basically means it's very neutral sounding with seperation well enough to allow the user to "analyze" the piece. Making it easier to hear details and such. There are other connotations I suppose but that's the basics of it. People do say some really...stupid statements sometimes though. Like if someone in a review starts talking about, "The lush, liquid gold mid range is the life of the rose colored beautiful sound signature."........I just dip out of the review. That literally means crap to me lol except that you may or may not want to make love to that headphone. Like I said earlier, I take fun as not a definition of it's own but rather an opposition to another. As in a can that is seen as analytical is not seen as "fun" or often said "colored". Probably means it isn't very neutral and is suited towards not proper reproduction of the recording, but an interpretation of it. Grado cans fit this description perfectly. They "color" the recording to give it a sound that the engineers feel are more enjoyable than just a neutral true reproduction of the recording. So in this sense, the basics of the word "fun" does not necessarily have a specific meaning in and of it's own without context. It just simply means that the headphone produces a sound that is different from proper reproduction. Still dunno if that makes sense to you or not....


I'll look into the 600. I've had a brief listen to the HD650 before but I have no real opinion of it. It was way too little a demo. Right now I am on a journey to find reviews upon reviews on cans of interest.


Nope, no 600 ohm cans I've tried in my amp have felt sufficiently powered.



Unforgiving to me just means it in no way colors the sound and is near completely flat with excellent staging so when fed a bad recording, it then points out those aspects that made it bad in a blatant manner. I touched on this earlier, but there were some tracks that I am perfectly fine with listening to on my equipment, but it only took a few times on the SR009 to convince me never to seriously listen to them on there again or risk unenjoyment frown.gif. As far as EQ is concerned, I really only believe in light EQ of bass or treble at the moment. I believe that headphones should be enjoyed for their sound signature and they themselves are an art to be appreciated. Beyond just being good and bad, some headphones aren't better or worse than others, they just sound....different! And that's lovely and I wish to just enjoy that one day. My collection of cans that I enjoy switching between when I feel like a certain sound.


Chuunibyou....is so....excuse me, RIKKA is so awesome. KyoAni proves once agsin to be god tier.
Yeah, there's plenty of reviews on both for you to look at smily_headphones1.gif
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

I suppose. I might try em one day... btw I put my Zune up for Sale. I finally deleted the 70gbs of crummy lossy DnB I had. So I think I can live with 4gbs of 320k lossy for a while. Besides I don't need 3000 Dub Step songs... I have about 400 favs <3 
You should smily_headphones1.gif
Lol, what are some good DnB albums?
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Woah, wall of quotes again.
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No it wouldn't.
Fall damage only starts at 4 blocks high, where it's only half a heart. One block is 1 meter (~3 feet), so 2-3ft would not incur damage.
Punching trees and stones and bricks don't register as pain either.
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Though I disagree with the notion that one can to rule them all just because some argument about mastering, I do believe the "ultimate can" is an extremely neutral unforgiving one. But beyond that, I do feel that sometimes, headphones that "color" the sound to fit certain genres better are a good thing and nice to have.

@Manveru I'm not saying I have to have a can for every single genre....that IS silly. But because their are very powerful extremes in the sound of music across the board of it all, tt can be necessary for people like me to feel the need for multiple headphones to please them. To further add into that, there is the whole idea of just simply loving how a certain headphone sounds with some things and how one may sound with others.Sometimes there is no better, there just is how each does things differently and there is something to be respected about that and how some folks have that issue. You don't have to have 20 headphones for that, but I can understand why some have 5 or so just because they enjoy how certain cans treat certain songs. Maybe there is a more balanced option out there for those guys, maybe there isn't. Until it comes to fruition, the best choice is to have more than one can.
*has over 10 pairs of headphones*
Ultimate can is something that fits in all your music preference!
Sometimes I just feel like some different pair for comfort or wtv.
I still find neutral, or neutral enough, is best. With a bit more emphasis the low end, and less on the high end to get a bit more fun and a bit less analytical. If that even makes sense.
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That's what I'm talking about though. I don't think that even makes any sense at all. IME there's no such thing as a headphone which "smooths over" a bad recording, or a headphone that will "let you know if something is badly recorded." A bad recording sounds like just as bad a recording on ibuds as on multi-hundred dollar headphones. The "revealing" headphones actually make it sound better...because they are better headphones. Maybe it's just me.


Ew...haha. I love actual green tea, but any food that is green tea flavored for some reason makes me gag.
Aren't a lot of the flaws made obvious in the treble range? Thus many studio headphones having treble peaks to put emphasis on them so that sound engineers can kill them off.
So something without too much treble should be a bit more "forgiving", though naturally it is not a solve-all solution.
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It's weird. I've tried green tea ice cream and cakes or breads before. Both made me feel really sick. But I drink green tea and it's awesome.


What other options? The reason I started complaining in the first place is because I was saying there were no other good options. Just a few that are decent at best and then a whole lot which suck really bad.
Well green team and matcha/maccha aren't exactly one and the same.
Maccha comes in powder form AFAIK and the ones bought in packets are often sweetened. Maybe you just don't like maccha taste since "green tea icecream" is probably often really maccha icecream.
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@Manveru To an extent, I see what you are saying but I have found lesser recorded things sound anything from bland to to downright unpleasant on high end headphones. Let's take some low end production rap for example. A terrible headphone like the beats studio(it is quite bad for 90% of music for a $300 headphone imo) does great at bringing some real fun to a lot of that rap and I actually would recommend the beats if you cared about style somewhat and listened to only that kind of rap. But when I plopped some in a 007 Omega....it kind of was...very meh sounding >_>

Now someone who's focus is to hear everything and that is their pleasure? I think your theory is true.
High end = HiFi = High Fidelity.
When you bring crappy recordings to be heard in high fidelity, you can only listen in awe at how crappily it was recorded.
HiFi definitely incompatible with LQ music.
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Mom got me a nexus 7 for my birthday. Score. Have to wait until after finals to get it though :c.
Happy birthday!! Hope you said thanks to your mom though wink.gif
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Ugh, I've done that a few times with a megapost or two and I would have to go back and remember which ones I quoted.

Sucks...
In that case it was rather because I had nothing to quote. lol
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Originally Posted by Mshenay View Post

... Byer Dt 880 Premium 600 ohm... [better than both HD cans <3] but that's just my opinion and I ofc hate Senn cans biggrin.gif, they all sound Tinny and shrilly to me ^^ but I'm a bass head so I prefer the warmer Byer House sound over Senn's 
Just tried the HD598 the other day, and I liked them. Can't compare between that and the DT880 since I haven't tried either of them for long enough but DT880@250ohms did sound pretty good, but a bit treble happy sometimes. HD598 was more laid back sounding though; that's my type of lazy sound sig lol. Though definitely a bit sleepy sounding on both extremities. Now how big of a hike is between HD598 to HD600 I do not know.

Either way, liked them both better than the AKG equivalents.
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Chuunibyou....is so....excuse me, RIKKA is so awesome. KyoAni proves once agsin to be god tier.
Rikka is cute but I actually prefer Touka or Shinka.
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Hi guys, I'm back!! Sorry about my absence. My family is moving so I am quite busy at the moment... But anyway, did I miss anything important?
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@kalbee
No! Rikka all the way!!!
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Hi guys, I'm back!! Sorry about my absence. My family is moving so I am quite busy at the moment... But anyway, did I miss anything important?
don't worry xP
And not really.
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@kalbee
No! Rikka all the way!!!
:< nuu

Alright, gnite for real this time lol.
And to do it à la Bowei: Otatsumi miina (御立見三井名) <--- looks like a name now.
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Hi guys, I'm back!! Sorry about my absence. My family is moving so I am quite busy at the moment... But anyway, did I miss anything important?
Depends on what your definition of important is...
But probably not.
Oyasumi minna!
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don't worry xP
And not really.
:< nuu
Alright, gnite for real this time lol.
And to do it à la Bowei: Otatsumi miina (御立見三井名) <--- looks like a name now.
Yesss!! Chuunibyou is my favourite this season. It makes me feel so nostalgic, oh how the days go by...
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Oyasumi.
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Well green team and matcha/maccha aren't exactly one and the same.
Maccha comes in powder form AFAIK and the ones bought in packets are often sweetened. Maybe you just don't like maccha taste since "green tea icecream" is probably often really maccha icecream.

High end = HiFi = High Fidelity.
When you bring crappy recordings to be heard in high fidelity, you can only listen in awe at how crappily it was recorded.
HiFi definitely incompatible with LQ music.

 

Probably has something to do with it. I hate powder or packet green tea as well. It's got to be the actual leaves or nothing.

 

I respectfully maintain that this makes absolutely no sense. Unless my experiences are for whatever reason somehow unique from everyone else's, this just doesn't track. Low fidelity headphones would make a bad recording sound worse. For example, say the headphone in question has spikey treble, or a deep valley in the lower mids, or exceptionally high levels of distortion--it would accentuate problems with a bad recording. Whereas a higher fidelity headphone with a relatively smoother frequency response would not. IME, the low quality of the headphone and the low quality of the recording add together and make something even worse than what you started with. Whereas pairing a bad recording with a high quality headphone tends to partially cancel out and alleviate the problem to a certain degree.

 

Oyasumi ya'll.

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Originally Posted by 0o0o0o View Post

No. None of these shows even approach the cinematic magnificence that is Girls Und Panzer. 

And BTOOM! LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL.
Hmmm i still like my shows
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Originally Posted by B-Dawk20 View Post

Analytical is one of the easier ones lol. In a vacuum it basically means it's very neutral sounding with seperation well enough to allow the user to "analyze" the piece. Making it easier to hear details and such. There are other connotations I suppose but that's the basics of it. People do say some really...stupid statements sometimes though. Like if someone in a review starts talking about, "The lush, liquid gold mid range is the life of the rose colored beautiful sound signature."........I just dip out of the review. That literally means crap to me lol except that you may or may not want to make love to that headphone. Like I said earlier, I take fun as not a definition of it's own but rather an opposition to another. As in a can that is seen as analytical is not seen as "fun" or often said "colored". Probably means it isn't very neutral and is suited towards not proper reproduction of the recording, but an interpretation of it. Grado cans fit this description perfectly. They "color" the recording to give it a sound that the engineers feel are more enjoyable than just a neutral true reproduction of the recording. So in this sense, the basics of the word "fun" does not necessarily have a specific meaning in and of it's own without context. It just simply means that the headphone produces a sound that is different from proper reproduction. Still dunno if that makes sense to you or not....


I'll look into the 600. I've had a brief listen to the HD650 before but I have no real opinion of it. It was way too little a demo. Right now I am on a journey to find reviews upon reviews on cans of interest.


Nope, no 600 ohm cans I've tried in my amp have felt sufficiently powered.



Unforgiving to me just means it in no way colors the sound and is near completely flat with excellent staging so when fed a bad recording, it then points out those aspects that made it bad in a blatant manner. I touched on this earlier, but there were some tracks that I am perfectly fine with listening to on my equipment, but it only took a few times on the SR009 to convince me never to seriously listen to them on there again or risk unenjoyment frown.gif. As far as EQ is concerned, I really only believe in light EQ of bass or treble at the moment. I believe that headphones should be enjoyed for their sound signature and they themselves are an art to be appreciated. Beyond just being good and bad, some headphones aren't better or worse than others, they just sound....different! And that's lovely and I wish to just enjoy that one day. My collection of cans that I enjoy switching between when I feel like a certain sound.


Chuunibyou....is so....excuse me, RIKKA is so awesome. KyoAni proves once agsin to be god tier.
I didnt fully realize what "chuunibyou" actually was until a few days ago and man... It was a collection of the things anime fans may go theough and will typically grow up from and man, was it hilarious to relate to and I ALSO wanted to roll on the floor!
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Woah, wall of quotes again.
Punching trees and stones and bricks don't register as pain either.
*has over 10 pairs of headphones*
Ultimate can is something that fits in all your music preference!
Sometimes I just feel like some different pair for comfort or wtv.
I still find neutral, or neutral enough, is best. With a bit more emphasis the low end, and less on the high end to get a bit more fun and a bit less analytical. If that even makes sense.
Aren't a lot of the flaws made obvious in the treble range? Thus many studio headphones having treble peaks to put emphasis on them so that sound engineers can kill them off.
So something without too much treble should be a bit more "forgiving", though naturally it is not a solve-all solution.
Well green team and matcha/maccha aren't exactly one and the same.
Maccha comes in powder form AFAIK and the ones bought in packets are often sweetened. Maybe you just don't like maccha taste since "green tea icecream" is probably often really maccha icecream.
High end = HiFi = High Fidelity.
When you bring crappy recordings to be heard in high fidelity, you can only listen in awe at how crappily it was recorded.
HiFi definitely incompatible with LQ music.
Happy birthday!! Hope you said thanks to your mom though wink.gif
In that case it was rather because I had nothing to quote. lol
Just tried the HD598 the other day, and I liked them. Can't compare between that and the DT880 since I haven't tried either of them for long enough but DT880@250ohms did sound pretty good, but a bit treble happy sometimes. HD598 was more laid back sounding though; that's my type of lazy sound sig lol. Though definitely a bit sleepy sounding on both extremities. Now how big of a hike is between HD598 to HD600 I do not know.
Either way, liked them both better than the AKG equivalents.
Rikka is cute but I actually prefer Touka or Shinka.
That is a good thought. That treble peaks are there to bring notice to them but at the same time, they hurt and may cause an engineer to mellow out a part too much etc

I prefer the blonde mc?
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Originally Posted by 00MusicLover00 View Post

Hi guys, I'm back!! Sorry about my absence. My family is moving so I am quite busy at the moment... But anyway, did I miss anything important?
Yes... ALL THE THINGS.
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Originally Posted by kalbee View Post

don't worry xP
And not really.
:< nuu
Alright, gnite for real this time lol.
And to do it à la Bowei: Otatsumi miina (御立見三井名) <--- looks like a name now.
Otaiyou miina
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Originally Posted by 00MusicLover00 View Post

Yesss!! Chuunibyou is my favourite this season. It makes me feel so nostalgic, oh how the days go by...
It is magical

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Originally Posted by 00MusicLover00 View Post

Oyasumi.
Otasumi damm it!

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http://kotaku.com/5965422/what-headphones-anime-characters-are-wearing/gallery/1
Just gonna leave here a bit
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Just in case no one noticed, one of bowei's greatest wishes just came true!  biggrin.gif  Congrats on the new custom title bowei!

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