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抹茶ケーキだ!

Yay!! Love that stuff :)

 

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It's weird. I've tried green tea ice cream and cakes or breads before. Both made me feel really sick. But I drink green tea and it's awesome.

lol I'm the opposite, likes all green tea flavoured stuff but not the tea.

 

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@Numbers kun

happy birthday!!!!

誕生日おめてとう、ナンバーくん〜

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I think I died 3 times today. So much d'aaaaaaw.
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Preferred? Not really sure honestly. Like my music library, my ranges in what I like sonically seem spread out pretty well. I enjoy well extended and controlled bass but am by no means a bass head and have a decent solution to those needs in the M50 so my next headphone need not be overly thumpy in that region but definite presence would be needed. The phone would have to treat well most genres and I guess a jack of all trades is needed with great musicality. Although neutral sound is great and all, my next can needs to have the ability to not dry out some of my lesser recorded music(like some of my anime tunes) but has to be no chump when it comes to my classical, rock, and jazz stuff. Vocals are something that I will admit has to be good, especially female vocalists.

When I hear talk about the HD650, I don't hear a lot about technicalities of it's sound, I hear about how a lot of people find them to make them enjoy music and that though they are forgiving to an extent, they also can bring some of the accuracy people look for as well. Once again, not to the extent of some cans but I'm looking for a balancing act hear, and that may be tough to do at this level. I wish I was just like some people and listened to only a few things, but when you go to and from 2Pac, MJ, RHCP, John Williams, Eri Kitamura, and Boyz II Men in a matter of minutes, then you kind of have a problem in the first place =__=. This is why I'll always be a multiple headphones kind of guy but for now, I'm just looking for a great Headphone that will do well with most genres and that has a sense of liveliness to it. What that translates to, I dunno but I'm going to work hard towards finding out what will closest fit that definition.


No, they need to be dynamic, open, and full size. Also, they must pair well with my amp I guess but that's more of a given. Grado's however are not what I'm looking for. After spending two weeks with the SR325i, I have come to the conclusion that while I liked it for more acoustic pieces when I tried it at a meet, it does not mesh well with my equipment and overall library of music.
I would suggest the HD600 over the HD650. The HD600 has just slightly elevated midbass, while the HD650 has even more bass and less treble. However, I find the HD600 to sound almost perfectly balanced. It can do anything from classical to anisong very well. Even very poorly recorded songs sound great through the HD600. Also, from the first time I heard them, the vocals on the HD600 blew me away smily_headphones1.gif I've heard people saying they do vocals better than the 650, but ymmv.
Check out the review in my sig for my full review, but I really do think the HD600 would suit your wants and needs very well.
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I would suggest the HD600 over the HD650. The HD600 has just slightly elevated midbass, while the HD650 has even more bass and less treble. However, I find the HD600 to sound almost perfectly balanced. It can do anything from classical to anisong very well. Even very poorly recorded songs sound great through the HD600. Also, from the first time I heard them, the vocals on the HD600 blew me away smily_headphones1.gif I've heard people saying they do vocals better than the 650, but ymmv.
Check out the review in my sig for my full review, but I really do think the HD600 would suit your wants and needs very well.

... Byer Dt 880 Premium 600 ohm... [better than both HD cans <3] but that's just my opinion and I ofc hate Senn cans :D, they all sound Tinny and shrilly to me ^^ but I'm a bass head so I prefer the warmer Byer House sound over Senn's 

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Lol
Is it a good show!?

 

I dunno... it's... like... the only currently airing show I'm following? tongue.gif

 

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Though I disagree with the notion that one can to rule them all just because some argument about mastering, I do believe the "ultimate can" is an extremely neutral unforgiving one. But beyond that, I do feel that sometimes, headphones that "color" the sound to fit certain genres better are a good thing and nice to have.

 

@Manveru I'm not saying I have to have a can for every single genre....that IS silly. But because their are very powerful extremes in the sound of music across the board of it all, tt can be necessary for people like me to feel the need for multiple headphones to please them. To further add into that, there is the whole idea of just simply loving how a certain headphone sounds with some things and how one may sound with others.Sometimes there is no better, there just is how each does things differently and there is something to be respected about that and how some folks have that issue. You don't have to have 20 headphones for that, but I can understand why some have 5 or so just because they enjoy how certain cans treat certain songs. Maybe there is a more balanced option out there for those guys, maybe there isn't. Until it comes to fruition, the best choice is to have more than one can.

 

I disagree that the "ultimate can" should be unforgiving.  "Unforgiving" to me is a synonym for "has uncontrolled treble peaks messing up the sound, especially with sibilant recordings".

 

My approach is to find the ultimate cans and EQ for different needs

 

One thing that does wonders for improving the "forgivingness" of cans is this spectral compressor

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/reafir_by_cockos

its compression mode is always in my processing chain

 

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Acchi Kocchi ep 13, I am ready to die from cuteness.

 

Downloading!  But... ep13?  I only see 12

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So much hw tonight.... bleh

 

 

Got TV streaming going though :)

 

I'll watch some Guilty Crown and what not tomrrw

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I dunno... it's... like... the only currently airing show I'm following? tongue.gif

 

Downloading!  But... ep13?  I only see 12

Don't worry. Girls and Panzer is... THE BEST SHOW THIS SEASON!

 

Ep13 is a BD final volume OVA thing. 

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... Byer Dt 880 Premium 600 ohm... [better than both HD cans <3] but that's just my opinion and I ofc hate Senn cans biggrin.gif, they all sound Tinny and shrilly to me ^^ but I'm a bass head so I prefer the warmer Byer House sound over Senn's 
Huh, I looked at the measurements for both, and they look very similar. The DT880 look like they have a bit more bass and treble emphasis, but not that much difference tbh. What senn model did you listen to Btw?
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Huh, I looked at the measurements for both, and they look very similar. The DT880 look like they have a bit more bass and treble emphasis, but not that much difference tbh. What senn model did you listen to Btw?

Yea it's a matter of choice, The HD 202, 360 and HD 280

 

And again I understand they are all like >$200 cans but... for me the Koss HD pro Dj 200... was much more balanced then all of those Senn Cans [a few of which cost more than the Koss]

 

All the sen cans had, forward almost tinny mids and barely any bass... the Songs I used where these two [in 16 lossless ofc]

 

 

Plus I love how Tight the bass was on the Koss and my Dt 880,

 

 

I demo'd about 8 cans to these two songs over like 2 hours in best buy so xD forgive me for that ;3

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Don't worry. Girls and Panzer is... THE BEST SHOW THIS SEASON!

 

Ep13 is a BD final volume OVA thing. 

I think Chuunibyou, Psychoo Pass, Sukitee iiayo, Btoom are giving it a run for its money though

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Yea it's a matter of choice, The HD 202, 360 and HD 280

And again I understand they are all like >$200 cans but... for me the Koss HD pro Dj 200... was much more balanced then all of those Senn Cans [a few of which cost more than the Koss]

All the sen cans had, forward almost tinny mids and barely any bass... the Songs I used where these two [in 16 lossless ofc]



Plus I love how Tight the bass was on the Koss and my Dt 880,



I demo'd about 8 cans to these two songs over like 2 hours in best buy so xD forgive me for that ;3
Hmm, well the higher end senns are completely different beasts from their cheaper models.
I'll check those songs out when I get home...
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I think Chuunibyou, Psychoo Pass, Sukitee iiayo, Btoom are giving it a run for its money though

No. None of these shows even approach the cinematic magnificence that is Girls Und Panzer. 

 

And BTOOM! LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWL.

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Hmm, well the higher end senns are completely different beasts from their cheaper models.
I'll check those songs out when I get home...

I suppose. I might try em one day... btw I put my Zune up for Sale. I finally deleted the 70gbs of crummy lossy DnB I had. So I think I can live with 4gbs of 320k lossy for a while. Besides I don't need 3000 Dub Step songs... I have about 400 favs <3 

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I don't know. It just seems to me that a lot of things that people say about gear and audio stem more from abstract reasoning, emotional desires, and culturally praised aesthetics applied to reality and experience, rather than the other way around. Personally, I think a lot of the words people use to describe things around here don't make any sense or even have anything to do with reality. For example, take the descriptor "analytical." I've always thought that this was a nothing word. What the heck is that even supposed to mean? I don't see how such a thing is even possible. To me, it seems like a word people just use when they want to flaunt their "sophisticated" audiophile tastes or something, or to use to try and say "eww neutrality!" and defend their romantic fantasies and beliefs. Same with "fun" and stuff like that. In some cases I guess some people are simply using such words as a codename for a certain type of frequency balance, but a headphone's sound signature and how it relates to your personal preferences is another matter altogether which could be described and discussed in infinitely clearer and more efficient ways. They're obviously trying to communicate something but they way they're going about it just renders it completely incomprehensible and up to be (mis)interpreted in whatever way the reader happens to do so.

 

Myself, I'm like the total opposite of the person who tries to "hear everything," and I simultaneously dislike the idea of "fun" headphones. Maybe it's things like that that prevent me from being able to understand the "rules."

 

Once again, none of this is directly aimed at any specific person. Just me ranting about junk...

 

Analytical is one of the easier ones lol. In a vacuum it basically means it's very neutral sounding with seperation well enough to allow the user to "analyze" the piece. Making it easier to hear details and such. There are other connotations I suppose but that's the basics of it. People do say some really...stupid statements sometimes though. Like if someone in a review starts talking about, "The lush, liquid gold mid range is the life of the rose colored beautiful sound signature."........I just dip out of the review. That literally means crap to me lol except that you may or may not want to make love to that headphone. Like I said earlier, I take fun as not a definition of it's own but rather an opposition to another. As in a can that is seen as analytical is not seen as "fun" or often said "colored". Probably means it isn't very neutral and is suited towards not proper reproduction of the recording, but an interpretation of it. Grado cans fit this description perfectly. They "color" the recording to give it a sound that the engineers feel are more enjoyable than just a neutral true reproduction of the recording. So in this sense, the basics of the word "fun" does not necessarily have a specific meaning in and of it's own without context. It just simply means that the headphone produces a sound that is different from proper reproduction. Still dunno if that makes sense to you or not....

 

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I would suggest the HD600 over the HD650. The HD600 has just slightly elevated midbass, while the HD650 has even more bass and less treble. However, I find the HD600 to sound almost perfectly balanced. It can do anything from classical to anisong very well. Even very poorly recorded songs sound great through the HD600. Also, from the first time I heard them, the vocals on the HD600 blew me away smily_headphones1.gif I've heard people saying they do vocals better than the 650, but ymmv.
Check out the review in my sig for my full review, but I really do think the HD600 would suit your wants and needs very well.

 

I'll look into the 600. I've had a brief listen to the HD650 before but I have no real opinion of it. It was way too little a demo. Right now I am on a journey to find reviews upon reviews on cans of interest.

 

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... Byer Dt 880 Premium 600 ohm... [better than both HD cans <3] but that's just my opinion and I ofc hate Senn cans :D, they all sound Tinny and shrilly to me ^^ but I'm a bass head so I prefer the warmer Byer House sound over Senn's 

 

Nope, no 600 ohm cans I've tried in my amp have felt sufficiently powered.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Joe Bloggs View Post

 

I dunno... it's... like... the only currently airing show I'm following? tongue.gif

 

 

I disagree that the "ultimate can" should be unforgiving.  "Unforgiving" to me is a synonym for "has uncontrolled treble peaks messing up the sound, especially with sibilant recordings".

 

My approach is to find the ultimate cans and EQ for different needs

 

One thing that does wonders for improving the "forgivingness" of cans is this spectral compressor

http://www.kvraudio.com/product/reafir_by_cockos

its compression mode is always in my processing chain

 

 

Downloading!  But... ep13?  I only see 12

 

Unforgiving to me just means it in no way colors the sound and is near completely flat with excellent staging so when fed a bad recording, it then points out those aspects that made it bad in a blatant manner. I touched on this earlier, but there were some tracks that I am perfectly fine with listening to on my equipment, but it only took a few times on the SR009 to convince me never to seriously listen to them on there again or risk unenjoyment :(. As far as EQ is concerned, I really only believe in light EQ of bass or treble at the moment. I believe that headphones should be enjoyed for their sound signature and they themselves are an art to be appreciated. Beyond just being good and bad, some headphones aren't better or worse than others, they just sound....different! And that's lovely and I wish to just enjoy that one day. My collection of cans that I enjoy switching between when I feel like a certain sound.

 

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I think Chuunibyou, Psychoo Pass, Sukitee iiayo, Btoom are giving it a run for its money though

 

Chuunibyou....is so....excuse me, RIKKA is so awesome. KyoAni proves once agsin to be god tier.


Edited by B-Dawk20 - 12/4/12 at 8:06pm
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Analytical is one of the easier ones lol. In a vacuum it basically means it's very neutral sounding with seperation well enough to allow the user to "analyze" the piece. Making it easier to hear details and such. There are other connotations I suppose but that's the basics of it. People do say some really...stupid statements sometimes though. Like if someone in a review starts talking about, "The lush, liquid gold mid range is the life of the rose colored beautiful sound signature."........I just dip out of the review. That literally means crap to me lol except that you may or may not want to make love to that headphone. Like I said earlier, I take fun as not a definition of it's own but rather an opposition to another. As in a can that is seen as analytical is not seen as "fun" or often said "colored". Probably means it isn't very neutral and is suited towards not proper reproduction of the recording, but an interpretation of it. Grado cans fit this description perfectly. They "color" the recording to give it a sound that the engineers feel are more enjoyable than just a neutral true reproduction of the recording. So in this sense, the basics of the word "fun" does not necessarily have a specific meaning in and of it's own without context. It just simply means that the headphone produces a sound that is different from proper reproduction. Still dunno if that makes sense to you or not....


I'll look into the 600. I've had a brief listen to the HD650 before but I have no real opinion of it. It was way too little a demo. Right now I am on a journey to find reviews upon reviews on cans of interest.


Nope, no 600 ohm cans I've tried in my amp have felt sufficiently powered.



Unforgiving to me just means it in no way colors the sound and is near completely flat with excellent staging so when fed a bad recording, it then points out those aspects that made it bad in a blatant manner. I touched on this earlier, but there were some tracks that I am perfectly fine with listening to on my equipment, but it only took a few times on the SR009 to convince me never to seriously listen to them on there again or risk unenjoyment frown.gif. As far as EQ is concerned, I really only believe in light EQ of bass or treble at the moment. I believe that headphones should be enjoyed for their sound signature and they themselves are an art to be appreciated. Beyond just being good and bad, some headphones aren't better or worse than others, they just sound....different! And that's lovely and I wish to just enjoy that one day. My collection of cans that I enjoy switching between when I feel like a certain sound.


Chuunibyou....is so....excuse me, RIKKA is so awesome. KyoAni proves once agsin to be god tier.
Yeah, there's plenty of reviews on both for you to look at smily_headphones1.gif
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I suppose. I might try em one day... btw I put my Zune up for Sale. I finally deleted the 70gbs of crummy lossy DnB I had. So I think I can live with 4gbs of 320k lossy for a while. Besides I don't need 3000 Dub Step songs... I have about 400 favs <3 
You should smily_headphones1.gif
Lol, what are some good DnB albums?
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