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post #34306 of 120119
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Originally Posted by manveru View Post

 

As for the I/O thing. This is how I understand it. There is one button and just one button. We've been referring to it as the "I/O button." Pushing the button toggles between two states. Let's call these States X & Y.

 

State X = Internal DAC and amp are in use. In other words, DAC accepts USB or coax input, which is then sent to and output from the headphone amplifier.

 

State Y= DAC and amp are disconnected from each other and now function as two separate units. The DAC accepts USB or coax input and outputs from it's RCA line outs on the back. The headphone amp will only receive any analog signal coming from it's own separate RCA line ins.

exactly

post #34307 of 120119

@Eve tan

Not sure if you've been following up but our thread is designing a unit codenamed project H
It will be the size of a Schiit Asgard if not smaller.

It is a budget unit for people in our thread that want price to performance ratio

It is composed of:
An Custom Objective 2 Amplifier with Burr Brown op amps(2134 or 2228 or whatever you want)
A custom PCB with microprocessor for I/O and controls
Cirrus Logic CS4398 DAC with optical or coaxil(choose one) input for 192KHz and USB for 48KHz

Basically the idea is that as you can easily make and DIY these in HK where our friend Borisu is, this will work. Many of the steps have been cleared already

The O2 and the DAC will retain their inputs or outputs. Meaing the DAC will have its own RCA fixed line out on the back and the O2 will retain its RCA input on the back as well. This is where the microproccessor custom board that was made by Borisu comes in. The two parts themselves generally function as one internally but with this complex middle man, it will be safely and easily switchable so that you can just be using the CS4398 and use some other amp you just got from the store with it or use the O2 with another DAC you just got, using a switch was the first thought but that would be unsafe as from Borisu's calculations, you can fry a unit if you forget to switch it.

The mounting and types of screws and switches are being designed in CAD or 3D design shops right now but most of the buttons should be push in and side illuminated(think the power button on the E17).

The case will be custom made as well.

Our target price total, after parts, borisu building these, initial costs as he needs to pay for the recuperation of the custom designs, him building it, the mass 10 boards he will be getting for O2's and total shipping form HK to U.S.A or HK to anywhere is expected to be $150-$200

It will use a 6.3mm headphone jack of course.

We now have 3-4 people getting it, with 5, we may be able to drop total cost down to $130.

 

 

  • The CS4398 is Cirrus Logics FLAGSHIP, I do not have exp with WM8740 in E17 and CS4398 but Kiteki, you know who that is, has, and he prefers the CS4398. As it sounds less digital in his words and much more natural.

  • It will have USB and S/PDIF

  • its amp section is a REAL FULL Objective amplifier inside it with Burr Brown op amps

  • the DAC and amp will retain their RCA inputs and outputs. How?

  • With a custom PCB with a CPU onboard controlling it so you can still use the DAC with any other amp you buy new

  • or with the O2 you can use any other DAC as they will have RCA inputs and out on the back controled by a custom PCB. It will be housed in a custom case the siz eof if not smaller than a Schiit Asgard

  • price after shipping and workman costs if we get 5 people (we have 3-4) is about $150 if not LOWER.

  • 6.3mm (1/4) inch headphone jack output

  • and push in light up switches like the power button on the E17

  • if you want one, you can pre order it for $30+


     

     

     

    @Manveru

    Sounds about right

     


     

     

    @Haiburi

    I want to be there when you build it :( Don''t worry, I'll just watch :)

     


     

     

    I had no phone battery and now I am in my hotel room

     

     

     

    @Rikkun

    EXACTLY! That is EXACTLY my gripe with Bakuman. They introduced something that they themselves are having a hell of a hard time backing.

     

    Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

    it would be awesome if they did marry though. I would take the series up again if they did......

     

     

     


    @Insidious

    lol

    I forgave it for that and many other inconsistencies as well!

     

     


post #34308 of 120119
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

exactly

 

Btw, if I'm officially in on the project, I can send you some of my DT770 money for funds/pre-order status or whatever it is we're calling it. I want to wait until they are actually delivered to the other person and everything though so I can be sure it all goes smoothly and there aren't any issues.

post #34309 of 120119
Thread Starter 

@Panda:

 

I'm ordering everything over time. Tonight should just be the case because it's the only thing I know I'm getting with a good discount as of now.

post #34310 of 120119
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post

@Panda:

 

I'm ordering everything over time. Tonight should just be the case because it's the only thing I know I'm getting with a good discount as of now.

Seriously?.....that is some of the worst but understandable thinking I can't belive people do. It would just be there staring at you. Black friday is months away

 

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Originally Posted by manveru View Post

 

Btw, if I'm officially in on the project, I can send you some of my DT770 money for funds/pre-order status or whatever it is we're calling it. I want to wait until they are actually delivered to the other person and everything though so I can be sure it all goes smoothly and there aren't any issues.

Yay :)

 

 

 

@Graph

So wat are your plans? An STX or this?

post #34311 of 120119
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Originally Posted by HybridCore View Post

@Panda:

 

I'm ordering everything over time. Tonight should just be the case because it's the only thing I know I'm getting with a good discount as of now.

wouldn't that increase shipping?

 

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Originally Posted by manveru View Post

 

Btw, if I'm officially in on the project, I can send you some of my DT770 money for funds/pre-order status or whatever it is we're calling it. I want to wait until they are actually delivered to the other person and everything though so I can be sure it all goes smoothly and there aren't any issues.

Thanks!

post #34312 of 120119
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Seriously?.....that is some of the worst but understandable thinking I can't belive people do. It would just be there staring at you. Black friday is months away

Bowei, THIS DEAL ALMOST NEVER COMES UP AND IT'S DAMN GOOD. I've checked for awhile and the case never seems to have dropped to $70 a few times, no lower. If you really think I should wait, fine. Although, my mother is giving me more trouble though.

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1313531/1000-first-build-suggestions-wanted/20#post_18317330

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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

wouldn't that increase shipping?

 

Thanks!

Newegg's 3-Day shipping is free. Seriously.

post #34313 of 120119

Surprised the first episode of Little Busters didn't do much for some people. I thought it was extraordinarily decent for a J.C Staff effort. Sure it wasn't anywhere near KyoAni animation quality, but all the Key style comedy was delivered well and the show did much better than some others this season in setting up/explaining the plot. 

 

As for From the New World I'd guess that its going to continue world-building and only include minor foreshadowing to the central plot for a few more episodes. 


Edited by 0o0o0o - 10/7/12 at 7:09pm
post #34314 of 120119
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Originally Posted by 0o0o0o View Post

Surprised the first episode of Little Busters didn't do much for some people. I thought it was extraordinarily decent for a J.C Staff effort. Sure it wasn't anywhere near KyoAni animation quality, but all the Key style comedy was delivered well and the show did much better than some others this season in setting up/explaining the plot. 

 

As for From the New World I'd guess that its going to continue world-building and only include minor foreshadowing to the central plot for a few more episodes. 

JC staff is like Apple fans to Microsoft. It makes a crap load of anime where the good ones, people don't know or care which studio made it, but the bad ones will forever be on its record. For the record, JC staff has made quite a few good series recently like toradora, ano natsu, kimi kiss, hatsukoi limited.

 

I posted this the other day already. Great thta we had the same exact thoughts on it.

 

 

Quite interested in what new world will bring

 

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-07/oreimo-2nd-season-animated-by-a-1-for-next-april

 

Fully confirmed now, it is animated by diff studio though. But with same "staff", no idea what they mean by staff, animating staff or voice artisits

 

I can believe this one because the first time they announced the S2 was on april first

post #34315 of 120119

Stuff before:

 

On little busters adaption:

 

I think they are trying to copy Key and Kyoanime adaptions spontaneous action style..but am failing pretty bad at it.

 

 

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Originally Posted by 00MusicLover00 View Post

Does that mean Little Busters will pull a guilty crown?

no. Guilty Crown was fully and highly budgeted and took crap from other series. I don['t care that they took it but that they took it and tried to add originality(which is good) but failed..is what makes a series guilty crown. A series won't guilty crown if it just fails, it needs a set of conditions

 

But yeah, the execution of this series..is meh

 

Budget is mediocre to mid low. 4/10 with 5/10 being the average. This is going off the imperial scale by the way where nothing or stuff rarely gets to the other side of things. so yeah 4/10 animation.

 

Voice Acting is also a 4/10 again following the same scale

 

Execution right now is a 5.5/10 so slightly above normal.

 

let me finish this show and let me see

 

 

WHAT? They name their kitties, lennin, einstein, and gates but not Jobs!??

 

 

Despite much pessimism on little busters, and a what I think lackluster opening for such a weighted show like little busters, the studio animating this DOES have indeed some VERY famous projects. 

From 2005 and onwards:

honey and clover

loveless(for BL fans)

nodame cantable

zero no tsukaima 7.5/10

spiral 7/10

kimikiss 8/10

to aru majutsu 7.5/10

TORADORA 9/10

hayate the combat butler 6/10

hatsukoi limited 8/10

aoi hana

kaichou wa maid sama 7/10

bakuman 7/10

ano natsu 8.5/10

 

 

Angel Beats was by PA anime

Clannad was by kyoto anime

Kanon by Kyoto anime

air by kyoto anime

Little Busters by JC Studio

 

To me, Angel BEats wasn't that good but it also was quite original and didn't really use any if much of kyoto anime ideas for execution and what not.

 

 

 

Prestige of Studio in order

Kyoanime 

JC Studio

PA works

 

JC studio has the most anime released out of all of them.

 

Even with that said.. I'm not too much of a fan of this adaption, in terms of it fitting in place with the quite decent Angel Beats and utterly fantastic Clannad

 

I'm not sure if the budget was like this but the style of the backgrounds and color scheeme is familiar and somewhat reminescent of Clannads except being a bit more compressed.

 

I didn't or wasn't too much of a fan of their voices and self sound effects.

 

Rin's reaction at my criticism:

 

post #34316 of 120119
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

Despite much pessimism on little busters, and a what I think lackluster opening for such a weighted show like little busters, the studio animating this DOES have indeed some VERY famous projects. 

From 2005 and onwards:

honey and clover

loveless(for BL fans)

nodame cantable

zero no tsukaima 7.5/10

spiral 7/10

kimikiss 8/10

to aru majutsu 7.5/10

TORADORA 9/10

hayate the combat butler 6/10

hatsukoi limited 8/10

aoi hana

kaichou wa maid sama 7/10

bakuman 7/10

ano natsu 8.5/10

Famous, but are they actually good shows? I'd say everything on that list bar AnoNatsu is buoyed more by the source material than any production ability of J.C Staff's. 

 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

JC staff is like Apple fans to Microsoft. It makes a crap load of anime where the good ones, people don't know or care which studio made it, but the bad ones will forever be on its record. For the record, JC staff has made quite a few good series recently like toradora, ano natsu, kimi kiss, hatsukoi limited.

Not really, the hate J.C Staff receives is more due to the ratio of good shows to bad shows they create. Not to mention the endless Shana clones they spew out. I'd imagine very few fans with the capability to actually hate a production studio don't know exactly what shows that studio has created. 

 

I think everyone needs to do away with their expectations for a godlike anime since Little Busters is not as KyoAni work. Also, I wonder about the voice acting. They're just using the same VAs as the game aren't they? 

post #34317 of 120119
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Originally Posted by 00MusicLover00 View Post

Does that mean Little Busters will pull a guilty crown?

No, I think this season's "Guilty Crown" will be "K". Lots of fireworks, but I think it'll be a train wreck as it goes to its conclusion. We'll see though.

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post


Quite interested in what new world will bring

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-07/oreimo-2nd-season-animated-by-a-1-for-next-april

Fully confirmed now, it is animated by diff studio though. But with same "staff", no idea what they mean by staff, animating staff or voice artisits

I can believe this one because the first time they announced the S2 was on april first

I'm interested in New World as well. As far as Oreimo is concerned, the only thing that will change in the next production looks like the studio. I'm looking forward to it as well.

Didn't know you all were building a DIY amp. I will read up on it, but have to shore up my own finances for now.
post #34318 of 120119
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Originally Posted by Insidious Meme View Post


No, I think this season's "Guilty Crown" will be "K". Lots of fireworks, but I think it'll be a train wreck as it goes to its conclusion. We'll see though.
I'm interested in New World as well. As far as Oreimo is concerned, the only thing that will change in the next production looks like the studio. I'm looking forward to it as well.
Didn't know you all were building a DIY amp. I will read up on it, but have to shore up my own finances for now.

Yeah I think so too. I have yet to even tell what tthat show is even about. It has a very high budget and list of characters so yeah.

 

There are so many mysteries in that one

 

The details are all above

 

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Originally Posted by 0o0o0o View Post

Famous, but are they actually good shows? I'd say everything on that list bar AnoNatsu is buoyed more by the source material than any production ability of J.C Staff's. 

 

Not really, the hate J.C Staff receives is more due to the ratio of good shows to bad shows they create. Not to mention the endless Shana clones they spew out. I'd imagine very few fans with the capability to actually hate a production studio don't know exactly what shows that studio has created. 

 

I think everyone needs to do away with their expectations for a godlike anime since Little Busters is not as KyoAni work. Also, I wonder about the voice acting. They're just using the same VAs as the game aren't they? 

I feel you

 

But on that list, I really liked a few of them..why? It had my check marks. I didn't care if it was sappy. It had the romance and movements i really liked like kimikiss or hatsukoi limited :)

 

Ano ntasu and toradora was also a brilliant execution

 

I don't know about VA's but...its not that good in this show. Very weird sounding unnatural mix

post #34319 of 120119
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

I feel you

 

But on that list, I really liked a few of them..why? It had my check marks. I didn't care if it was sappy. It had the romance and movements i really liked like kimikiss or hatsukoi limited :)

 

Ano ntasu and toradora was also a brilliant execution

 

I don't know about VA's but...its not that good in this show. Very weird sounding unnatural mix

Yeah saying they're all bad shows is probably going too far, though my original point still stands.

 

Should mention that the creative staff behind Toradora and AnoNatsu worked with J.C Staff on both occasions to create those particular anime, but are not actually J.C Staff employees. 

post #34320 of 120119
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Originally Posted by 0o0o0o View Post

Yeah saying they're all bad shows is probably going too far, though my original point still stands.

 

Should mention that the creative staff behind Toradora and AnoNatsu worked with J.C Staff on both occasions to create those particular anime, but are not actually J.C Staff employees. 

That is a good thing to note haha.

 

Ano Natsu did many things right imo. It had a good budget, it had a REALLY good OP song. This is important as the OP song will last longer than the anime season and any time I listen to the awesomesauce song Vidro Mouyou, I think of Ano Natsu, and finally, although many themes have been used before and the female MC's character design resembles those in Onegai Teacher, it executed the series well. No new stuff, it didn't try this or that, it didn't need to go and fall heads first into an alien dystopia or anything. It was a romance drama series..and dammit it gave you one!!.

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