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post #33871 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by 0o0o0o View Post

Well... Type A fans, Type B fans. tongue.gif

 

Though these days shows usually have one foot in each Type...

 

Or you can say :

Haters gonna hate

JKJKJKJK

 

So finished watching Paradox Spiral and my head is in spiral because of the paradoxes!!

Anyway, I could understand the plot in the end

 

Something that I couldn't understand was how did Shiki got away from Araya's trap? And all this "origin" stuff

post #33872 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by jgray91 View Post

Can't you make the total 1337?

No.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

So what your telling me is that 1355HK can make 10 Objective 2 amplifiers or 10 Project H unit total inner components?

No. There's still the relays and crystal and DAC board.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

@borisu

What about the digital ABX project?

About that, I've actually made a new design for the ABX controller using a micro controller.

cuz I was thinking if I'm gonna gave to send you a PCB, I may as well send you a micro controller as well.

Here's the new design:

 

Design Pics (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


@project-H

I've just realized that the power management section in the Obj2 is actually unnecessary because I am neither using batteries or using a direct output (there's a output muting relay.) So I decided to remove that and save some money.

Here's the most updated cost list:

 

Component

Per Unit Cost

Qty

Total Cost

 

Objective2

Custom Objectove2 PCB

1.581

1

1.581

Custom RK097 Mount PCB

1.581

1

1.581

1N4005

0.026

2

0.052

1N5818

0.11

2

0.22

OPA2134

1.961

1

1.961

NJM4556

0.855

2

1.71

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

MC7912CTG

0.304

1

0.304

DIP-8 Socket

0.128

4

0.512

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

6

0.696

22n RPER71H223K2S1A03A

0.07

2

0.14

220p SR151A221JAR

0.072

2

0.144

2.2u MMK15225J63B05L4

0.974

2

1.948

470u 

0.114

4

0.456

220u EEUFM1E221

0.21

2

0.42

1R LR1F1R0

0.066

4

0.264

10k LR1F10K

0.028

2

0.056

1.5k LR1F1K5

0.031

4

0.124

100R LR1F100R

0.03

2

0.06

39k LR1F39K

0.031

2

0.062

300R LR1F300R

0.031

2

0.062

RK097 10k Pot

2.851

1

2.851

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

15.463

 

and cost for the controller:

(excluding relay and crystal)

 

 

 

Project-H Controller

Custom Project-H Control PCB

1.581

1

1.581

1N4005

0.026

5

0.13

1000u

0.222

1

0.222

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

3

0.348

30p SR152A330JAR

0.094

2

0.188

1k LR1F1K0

0.028

3

0.084

2N7000

0.074

4

0.296

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

UA78L05ACLP

0.246

1

0.246

AT89C2051

1.716

1

1.716

12MHz XTAL

 

1

0

DPDT Relay

 

5

0

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

5.07

 

 

I just placed my order for 10x both of these having to pay a total of HK$1008.xx or US$130.16

 

EDIT:

Wait... that can't be right....

15.463 + 5.07 = 20.533

20.533 x 10 = 205.33

205.33 x 0.85 = $174.5305

HOW DID I GET AWAY WITH $130???

and I double checked the list or components.....

guess I got some of the unit cost wrong....


Edited by b1o2r3i4s5 - 10/6/12 at 9:59am
post #33873 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

No.

No. There's still the relays and crystal and DAC board.

 

About that, I've actually made a new design for the ABX controller using a micro controller.

cuz I was thinking if I'm gonna gave to send you a PCB, I may as well send you a micro controller as well.

Here's the new design:

 

Design Pics (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


@project-H

I've just realized that the power management section in the Obj2 is actually unnecessary because I am neither using batteries or using a direct output (there's a output muting relay.) So I decided to remove that and save some money.

Here's the most updated cost list:

 

Component

Per Unit Cost

Qty

Total Cost

 

Objective2

Custom Objectove2 PCB

1.581

1

1.581

Custom RK097 Mount PCB

1.581

1

1.581

1N4005

0.026

2

0.052

1N5818

0.11

2

0.22

OPA2134

1.961

1

1.961

NJM4556

0.855

2

1.71

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

MC7912CTG

0.304

1

0.304

DIP-8 Socket

0.128

4

0.512

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

6

0.696

22n RPER71H223K2S1A03A

0.07

2

0.14

220p SR151A221JAR

0.072

2

0.144

2.2u MMK15225J63B05L4

0.974

2

1.948

470u 

0.114

4

0.456

220u EEUFM1E221

0.21

2

0.42

1R LR1F1R0

0.066

4

0.264

10k LR1F10K

0.028

2

0.056

1.5k LR1F1K5

0.031

4

0.124

100R LR1F100R

0.03

2

0.06

39k LR1F39K

0.031

2

0.062

300R LR1F300R

0.031

2

0.062

RK097 10k Pot

2.851

1

2.851

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

15.463

 

and cost for the controller:

(excluding relay and crystal)

 

 

 

Project-H Controller

Custom Project-H Control PCB

1.581

1

1.581

1N4005

0.026

5

0.13

1000u

0.222

1

0.222

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

3

0.348

30p SR152A330JAR

0.094

2

0.188

1k LR1F1K0

0.028

3

0.084

2N7000

0.074

4

0.296

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

UA78L05ACLP

0.246

1

0.246

AT89C2051

1.716

1

1.716

12MHz XTAL

 

1

0

DPDT Relay

 

5

0

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

5.07

 

 

I just placed my order for 10x both of these having to pay a total of HK$1008.xx or US$130.16

Ok, 10 units of what?

 

Tell me exactly what? 10 units of just the O2 and PCB or 10 units of...something?

post #33874 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

No.

No. There's still the relays and crystal and DAC board.

 

About that, I've actually made a new design for the ABX controller using a micro controller.

cuz I was thinking if I'm gonna gave to send you a PCB, I may as well send you a micro controller as well.

Here's the new design:

 

Design Pics (Click to show)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


@project-H

I've just realized that the power management section in the Obj2 is actually unnecessary because I am neither using batteries or using a direct output (there's a output muting relay.) So I decided to remove that and save some money.

Here's the most updated cost list:

 

Component

Per Unit Cost

Qty

Total Cost

 

Objective2

Custom Objectove2 PCB

1.581

1

1.581

Custom RK097 Mount PCB

1.581

1

1.581

1N4005

0.026

2

0.052

1N5818

0.11

2

0.22

OPA2134

1.961

1

1.961

NJM4556

0.855

2

1.71

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

MC7912CTG

0.304

1

0.304

DIP-8 Socket

0.128

4

0.512

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

6

0.696

22n RPER71H223K2S1A03A

0.07

2

0.14

220p SR151A221JAR

0.072

2

0.144

2.2u MMK15225J63B05L4

0.974

2

1.948

470u 

0.114

4

0.456

220u EEUFM1E221

0.21

2

0.42

1R LR1F1R0

0.066

4

0.264

10k LR1F10K

0.028

2

0.056

1.5k LR1F1K5

0.031

4

0.124

100R LR1F100R

0.03

2

0.06

39k LR1F39K

0.031

2

0.062

300R LR1F300R

0.031

2

0.062

RK097 10k Pot

2.851

1

2.851

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

15.463

 

and cost for the controller:

(excluding relay and crystal)

 

 

 

Project-H Controller

Custom Project-H Control PCB

1.581

1

1.581

1N4005

0.026

5

0.13

1000u

0.222

1

0.222

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

3

0.348

30p SR152A330JAR

0.094

2

0.188

1k LR1F1K0

0.028

3

0.084

2N7000

0.074

4

0.296

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

UA78L05ACLP

0.246

1

0.246

AT89C2051

1.716

1

1.716

12MHz XTAL

 

1

0

DPDT Relay

 

5

0

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

5.07

 

 

I just placed my order for 10x both of these having to pay a total of HK$1008.xx or US$130.16

 

Cost of 10 DIY O2 (I'm assuming with case complete) < Cost of JDS Labs O2 complete assemble

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

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post #33875 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Cost of 10 DIY O2 (I'm assuming with case complete) < Cost of JDS Labs O2 complete assemble

 

 

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

OAJDSOQ9R842JFOIMWEFO2 23. PFK2,PFK32D0RO-23K-,K_kp><_@i()@i$ #u09J02E02EU0U0u)u)@ueU2E JE UE02UEU20X12N 

Cost of 10 DIY O2 and custom PCB is less than cost of 1 JDS labs assembled unit is what you should remember

post #33876 of 117447
Quote:

Ok, 10 units of what?

 

Tell me exactly what? 10 units of just the O2 and PCB or 10 units of...something?

That's the cost of 10x

- ALL Obj2 components (required for Project-H, omitted battery and power management section.)

- ALL Project-H controller components (Except for 5x relay + 1x crystal)

 



 

I just found out where the calculations went wrong....

I haven't ordered the PCBs yet LOL

post #33877 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

That's the cost of 10x

- ALL Obj2 components (required for Project-H, omitted battery and power management section.)

- ALL Project-H controller components (Except for 5x relay + 1x crystal)

 



 

I just found out where the calculations went wrong....

I haven't ordered the PCBs yet LOL

 

Eh? But the price list already includes the PCB?

post #33878 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

That's the cost of 10x

- ALL Obj2 components (required for Project-H, omitted battery and power management section.)

- ALL Project-H controller components (Except for 5x relay + 1x crystal)

 



 

I just found out where the calculations went wrong....

I haven't ordered the PCBs yet LOL

*facepalm*

 

So after getting a CS4398 unit for each this is broken down into 

 

$15-$20 for both the O2 and Project H PCB + $35 DAC unit card IF YOU SELL all 10.

 

But as we have about 3 I think, that is about $150 still each unit to help recuperate costs?

post #33879 of 117447
Quote:

Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

 

Eh? But the price list already includes the PCB?

Yes, but I don't buy the PCBs from the same source as the components.

Components are from RS

PCBs are custom manufactured in china.

the $130 I paid was for all the components ONLY.

post #33880 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post

Yes, but I don't buy the PCBs from the same source as the components.

Components are from RS

PCBs are custom manufactured in china.

the $130 I paid was for all the components ONLY.

Ok so wasn't it $15 for 10 PCB's?

 

Ok let's see. $160-$180 will be paid to get the O2 and PCB and Project H pcb

 

If only 1 person buys this unit, it would cost $240 to help recuperate costs after shipping

 

HOWEVER If 2 people buy it, we can drop it down to $170 total each -$340 after shipping(included)

 

If 3 people buy it, its about $150 each (150 X 3) = $450 total

 

So even if 2 people buy it at $170, its still more than enough to cover $160 O2 and PCB and $60 two DAC units and $40 total two shipping and workman costs. and $40 workman costs and $40 left over for a case

 

And yeah....so if we can get one more person to get it, we can literally buy this unit at $150 or sub and borisu can make some pocket change for his efforts and still have more left to sell himself or help another Head fi aniem thread member

 

I am pledging to buy one so yeah

 

so yeah, more of you guys sign up, the cheaper this can go because as you see, the DAC unit is only $35 and O2 for ten units is only $130 and the Project H PCB should be about what, $30 for 10 units at this price?


Edited by bowei006 - 10/6/12 at 10:17am
post #33881 of 117447

I'll back this project...depending on the number of person. Though I MAY get it anyway,regerdless, LOL

post #33882 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

I'll back this project...depending on the number of person. Though I MAY get it anyway,regerdless, LOL

That's a 3-4 people now :)

 

$130 X4 =$520

Enough to cover

$180 O2 unit and Project H PCB

$120 DAC unit

$60 workman costs

$60 shipping (for 4 units)

$60 case or $20 case per unit

post #33883 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

That's a 3-4 people now :)

 

$130 X4 =$520

Enough to cover

$180 O2 unit and Project H PCB

$120 DAC unit

$60 workman costs

$60 shipping (for 4 units)

$60 case or $20 case per unit

I think the calculations should come after I do all the sourcing.

 

Here's the complete list of Project-H components: (incomplete costs)

In red: what I haven't bought

 

Project-H BOM (Click to show)

 

 

Component

Per Unit Cost

Qty

Total Cost

 

Project-H Objective2

Custom Objectove2 PCB

1.7707

1

1.7707

Custom RK097 Mount PCB

0.9802

1

0.9802

1N4005

0.026

2

0.052

1N5818

0.11

2

0.22

OPA2134

1.961

1

1.961

NJM4556

0.855

2

1.71

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

MC7912CTG

0.304

1

0.304

DIP-8 Socket

0.128

4

0.512

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

6

0.696

22n RPER71H223K2S1A03A

0.07

2

0.14

220p SR151A221JAR

0.072

2

0.144

2.2u MMK15225J63B05L4

0.974

2

1.948

470u 

0.114

4

0.456

220u EEUFM1E221

0.21

2

0.42

1R LR1F1R0

0.066

4

0.264

10k LR1F10K

0.028

2

0.056

1.5k LR1F1K5

0.031

4

0.124

100R LR1F100R

0.03

2

0.06

39k LR1F39K

0.031

2

0.062

300R LR1F300R

0.031

2

0.062

RK097 10k Pot

2.851

1

2.851

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

15.0519

 

 

 

 

 

Project-H Controller

Custom Project-H Control PCB

1.7707

1

1.7707

1N4005

0.026

5

0.13

1000u

0.222

1

0.222

220nF B32529C0224J

0.116

3

0.348

30p SR152A330JAR

0.094

2

0.188

1k LR1F1K0

0.028

3

0.084

2N7000

0.074

4

0.296

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

UA78L05ACLP

0.246

1

0.246

AT89C2051

1.716

1

1.716

12MHz XTAL

0.774

1

0.774

DPDT Relay

1.548

5

7.74

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

13.7737

 

 

 

 

 

Project-H DAC

DAC Kit

27.5

1

27.5

Shipping

8

1

8

MC7812CTG

0.259

1

0.259

MC7912CTG

0.304

1

0.304

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

36.063

 

 

 

 

 

Project-H Case + Interface

Project-H Custom Case

 

1

0

Push-Switch

3.096

3

9.288

RCA Connectors

1.29

4

5.16

AC Connector

 

1

0

6.3mm Connector

 

1

0

Volume Knob

 

1

0

Standoffs + screws

0.116

14

1.624

Internal connectors

 

 

0

Internal wiring

 

1

0

 

 

 

 

 

Total:

 

 

post #33884 of 117447

Oh cool. Paypal works with my account. So I'm in~

I want to see that custom case if possible BTW

post #33885 of 117447
Quote:
Originally Posted by graphidz View Post

Oh cool. Paypal works with my account. So I'm in~

I want to see that custom case if possible BTW

*Looks at haiby-kun*

Wonders who haven't been doing his share of work..... 

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