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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post

While I can see connection, they aren't remotely close in both style and genre for me so one didn't remind me of the other.

Kira*Kira's general arc before getting into each girl's route was amazing. Them songs, them performances, so good.
yeah. K on has money and need logistics that remind me of the real feel of Kira Kira however.
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Of course Google music is restricted here.

Aww it didn't have my I-diddn't-knew-it's-my-favourite-all-along Dancing Mad. That One Winged Angel is awesome though, but now I'm missing the concert...... so good.
post #125688 of 130166
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I can only remember what I wrote down on my meet impression notes of the HE-6, and it was paired with completely different gear from mine so take my impressions with a few grains of sugar.

To me, the HE-560 on the Geek Out 450, which supposedly sounds similar to the Hugo (I only have 2 USB ports, 1 for Geek Out, 1 for DSD and high-resolution masters so I haven't compared them yet), the HE-560 sounds like the HE-500 LCD-2-ified to me. The bass seems boosted in presence compared to the HE-500 and is a bit looser from what I remember of the HE-500 on the ODAC/O2 (but I know the differences between the ODAC/O2 and Geek Out). The treble is much more smoothed from the HE-500, so it's definitely more listenable to me, but details of the treble are lost and it sounds grainy (again, the planar magnetic headphones can't seem to make this go away for some reason). As a result, the HE-560 sounds darker than the HE-500 to me from memory.

I'm pretty sure power isn't really an issue here, but if it is, I have the Geek Out 1000 anyway. I measured its impedance at 57 Ω, which is in line with the HiFiMAN official specifications of 50 ± 8 Ω.
Let's assume the HE-560 is almost inefficient as the HE-500 as measured by Tyll at Innerfidelity with 2.04 mW to reach 90 dB SPL at 47 Ω, I'll round that to 2.0 mW at the measured 57 Ω.

2.0 mW * 2^5 = 64 mW to reach 105 dB SPL

GO 450 maximum VRMS = sqrt(0.450 W * 16 Ω) = 2.68 VRMS
Maximum power at 57 Ω, assuming a linear power curve (which is very unlikely) = (2.68 VRMS)^2 / 57 Ω = 0.126 W = 126 mW

Now compared to the HE-500, I thought the HE-6 was more refined overall: smoother treble without losing detail and having a less grainy sound, the ~9 kHz peak was still present, very airy-sounding with a fairly large soundstage, good instrument separation. I don't think the HE-560 is anywhere close to sounding like the HE-6, but rather they're different flavours. If you like the traditional HiFiMAN sound signature, you might not like the warmer, more congested-sounding HE-560.

I also just wrote up a post in the JDS Labs C5/C5D thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/647838/jds-labs-c5-c5d-pg96-portable-amp-amp-dac-appreciation-discussion-thread/2685#post_10817963

I think the C5 pairs better with the HE-560 compared to the Geek Out since its sound signature is more akin to that of the ODAC/O2, whose airy soundstage is better-suited for the HE-560 in my opinion.

 

Thanks again for the detailed info.

 

"Different flavors" is the gist of what I've heard, although I also have heard more than once that the HE-6 is simply better in every way overall. "Better" can mean so many things, though, so I'm sure they're both worth buying for some people.

 

I'm confused. Tracy mentioned before that you are a girl named Michelle. I just happened to click the LCD-X link in your signature, and it sounds like a guy's voice. :confused_face_2: 

post #125689 of 130166
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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post

Slowly reaching the end of Hikaru no Go. What to read next, I wonder. I'm kinda torn between Real, Koe no Katachi and Sanctuary.

I've heard good things said about koe no katachi, so maybe that..
post #125690 of 130166
Listening to the fan made version of Blumenkranz right now with proper German. And dayum.love it
post #125691 of 130166
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post

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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

I can only remember what I wrote down on my meet impression notes of the HE-6, and it was paired with completely different gear from mine so take my impressions with a few grains of sugar.


To me, the HE-560 on the Geek Out 450, which supposedly sounds similar to the Hugo (I only have 2 USB ports, 1 for Geek Out, 1 for DSD and high-resolution masters so I haven't compared them yet), the HE-560 sounds like the HE-500 LCD-2-ified to me. The bass seems boosted in presence compared to the HE-500 and is a bit looser from what I remember of the HE-500 on the ODAC/O2 (but I know the differences between the ODAC/O2 and Geek Out). The treble is much more smoothed from the HE-500, so it's definitely more listenable to me, but details of the treble are lost and it sounds grainy (again, the planar magnetic headphones can't seem to make this go away for some reason). As a result, the HE-560 sounds darker than the HE-500 to me from memory.


I'm pretty sure power isn't really an issue here, but if it is, I have the Geek Out 1000 anyway. I measured its impedance at 57 Ω, which is in line with the HiFiMAN official specifications of 50 ± 8 Ω.

Let's assume the HE-560 is almost inefficient as the HE-500 as measured by Tyll at Innerfidelity with 2.04 mW to reach 90 dB SPL at 47 Ω, I'll round that to 2.0 mW at the measured 57 Ω.


2.0 mW * 2^5 = 64 mW to reach 105 dB SPL


GO 450 maximum VRMS = sqrt(0.450 W * 16 Ω) = 2.68 VRMS

Maximum power at 57 Ω, assuming a linear power curve (which is very unlikely) = (2.68 VRMS)^2 / 57 Ω = 0.126 W = 126 mW


Now compared to the HE-500, I thought the HE-6 was more refined overall: smoother treble without losing detail and having a less grainy sound, the ~9 kHz peak was still present, very airy-sounding with a fairly large soundstage, good instrument separation. I don't think the HE-560 is anywhere close to sounding like the HE-6, but rather they're different flavours. If you like the traditional HiFiMAN sound signature, you might not like the warmer, more congested-sounding HE-560.


I also just wrote up a post in the JDS Labs C5/C5D thread:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/647838/jds-labs-c5-c5d-pg96-portable-amp-amp-dac-appreciation-discussion-thread/2685#post_10817963


I think the C5 pairs better with the HE-560 compared to the Geek Out since its sound signature is more akin to that of the ODAC/O2, whose airy soundstage is better-suited for the HE-560 in my opinion.

Thanks again for the detailed info.

"Different flavors" is the gist of what I've heard, although I also have heard more than once that the HE-6 is simply better in every way overall. "Better" can mean so many things, though, so I'm sure they're both worth buying for some people.

I'm confused. Tracy mentioned before that you are a girl named Michelle. I just happened to click the LCD-X link in your signature, and it sounds like a guy's voice. confused_face_2.gif  
In hifi retrospect, I think the HE-6 is indeed better in terms of bass slam (traditional planar magnetic style), detail retrieval, soundstage, and imaging, but the HE-560 offers a more relaxing and intimate sound. It's like the HD650 in that regard; people really like its laid-back and smooth kind of sound, but it doesn't offer very much technically unlike the HD800, or something like that. They're just different flavours for different listening preferences. XD

That would be my brother in the videos since I'm super camera shy. >.>
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

In hifi retrospect, I think the HE-6 is indeed better in terms of bass slam (traditional planar magnetic style), detail retrieval, soundstage, and imaging, but the HE-560 offers a more relaxing and intimate sound. It's like the HD650 in that regard; people really like its laid-back and smooth kind of sound, but it doesn't offer very much technically unlike the HD800, or something like that. They're just different flavours for different listening preferences. XD

That would be my brother in the videos since I'm super camera shy. >.>

 

Groovy.

 

Haha, that's hilarious! So you gave him a script to read? :evil:

 

BTW, I'm listening to "The Reluctant Heroes" (track 2 of the Attack On Titan OST). I love singing along to it.

 

Oh, and speaking of Tracy...does she still check her inbox now? I was creating some playlists, but won't bother if she's too busy.


Edited by Music Alchemist - 8/22/14 at 7:28pm
post #125693 of 130166
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

yeah. K on has money and need logistics that remind me of the real feel of Kira Kira however.

Well Kira*Kira was them wanting to make something out of it after watching a live performance, everyone had their own reasons but they actually made it pretty big for a indie high-school band.

K-on was just the girls screwing around tbh, reminds me of non non biyori.
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You weren't embarrassed back when you asked for bra suggestions two years ago? wink.gif

Nice cosplay pics as Mayushi though smily_headphones1.gif I see you took them down Michelle.
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Originally Posted by Exesteils View Post

Well Kira*Kira was them wanting to make something out of it after watching a live performance, everyone had their own reasons but they actually made it pretty big for a indie high-school band.

K-on was just the girls screwing around tbh, reminds me of non non biyori.
I still think the similarity is enough and more so in that they can be compared though
post #125696 of 130166
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

I still think the similarity is enough and more so in that they can be compared though

Definitely. Maybe it's just Kira's rock'n'roll setting appealing to me more.

Still love the silly stuff on K-on though. Mio is love, Mio is moe moe kyun
post #125697 of 130166
Like a Sir:

And now I'm thirsty.
post #125698 of 130166
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post

Groovy.

Haha, that's hilarious! So you gave him a script to read? evil_smiley.gif

BTW, I'm listening to "The Reluctant Heroes" (track 2 of the Attack On Titan OST). I love singing along to it.

Oh, and speaking of Tracy...does she still check her inbox now? I was creating some playlists, but won't bother if she's too busy.
Yeah he's much better than me at public speaking stuff.

That's a nice song!

I'm not sure if she checks her inbox. She's been super busy though, so probably not often. :/




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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

You weren't embarrassed back when you asked for bra suggestions two years ago? wink.gif

Nice cosplay pics as Mayushi though smily_headphones1.gif I see you took them down Michelle.
Eh!? U-u-u-URUSAI!


Of course I was! >.>
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post #125699 of 130166
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Originally Posted by miceblue View Post

Yeah he's much better than me at public speaking stuff.

That's a nice song!

I'm not sure if she checks her inbox. She's been super busy though, so probably not often. :/

 

This is the first time I've seen someone "hire" someone else to record an audio review for them.

 

Have you heard the second AOT OST? Tracks 1 and 10 are seriously epic!

 

She's so fun to talk to! I hope things get less hectic sooner rather than later.

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My computer restarted and I lost all my progress in my digital drawing

Oh well
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