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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

I really do. I'm not one of these "I give every show a chance because I'm a ******* hippie"-persons. I know my preferences quiet well after watching close to 100 shows and movies.

For example, I can safely say that I would not make it through one episode of Queens Blade, Jewelpet Kira Deco, Kuroko no Basket or Hunter x Hunter.

Don't tell me you never dismissed a movie/show/band or whatever without giving it a shot. That would really surprise me.


How do you even remember something like this?


Ugh....reading these descriptions does make me curious how they managed to make all this not look like some ****ty slasher movie/gore porn for the easily amused.

Not curious enough though.

This.

Rejecting to watch shows is not necessarily close mindedness. If it is based on previous experience of disliking seemingly similar shows, then it is definitely acceptable. Of course, it might turn out to be good after all, but that's not the point. Based on previous experiences you can estimate the chance of you liking it to be low; below something like 5% easily. Whereas there may be other shows around that have a much higher chance of being like, above 80% even. You'd only watch the 5% show under heavy peer pressure, if at all, rationally speaking.

It's all about efficiency. Even if based on estimations, the arguments are still rock solid.
post #123512 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

I really do. I'm not one of these "I give every show a chance because I'm a ******* hippie"-persons. I know my preferences quiet well after watching close to 100 shows and movies.
For example, I can safely say that I would not make it through one episode of Queens Blade, Jewelpet Kira Deco, Kuroko no Basket or Hunter x Hunter.
Don't tell me you never dismissed a movie/show/band or whatever without giving it a shot. That would really surprise me.

How do you even remember something like this?

Ugh....reading these descriptions does make me curious how they managed to make all this not look like some ****ty slasher movie/gore porn for the easily amused.
Not curious enough though.

 

I've dismissed plenty of things, but with anime, I generally find that you have to wade through the mud to get to the good stuff, even with the best ones.

 

How do I remember the episode number? I looked it up to be sure I referenced the right one. :D It's a seriously epic episode, though.

 

Yeah, only about 10% of the show is violent, really. It's mostly a perplexing plot that makes no sense until you've seen the first two seasons.

post #123513 of 130117
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This.

Rejecting to watch shows is not necessarily close mindedness. If it is based on previous experience of disliking seemingly similar shows, then it is definitely acceptable. Of course, it might turn out to be good after all, but that's not the point. Based on previous experiences you can estimate the chance of you liking it to be low; below something like 5% easily. Whereas there may be other shows around that have a much higher chance of being like, above 80% even. You'd only watch the 5% show under heavy peer pressure, if at all, rationally speaking.

It's all about efficiency. Even if based on estimations, the arguments are still rock solid.

+1

 

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I've dismissed plenty of things, but with anime, I generally find that you have to wade through the mud to get to the good stuff, even with the best ones.

 

How do I remember the episode number? I looked it up to be sure I referenced the right one. :D It's a seriously epic episode, though.

 

Yeah, only about 10% of the show is violent, really. It's mostly a perplexing plot that makes no sense until you've seen the first two seasons.

I really don't agree with this statement. Why would I do that if I can just look up good animes? Ones that are objectively good.
I do watch stuff like SAO etc from time to time but only because they are unintentionally funny. Not to remind me that there are more bad than good animes out there or whatever.

You had me worried for a second.

Oh great, another one of these. You seem to like shows that have a lot of nothing in them with only a few awesome bits in them. That's also Blood-Cs selling point, isn't it? :P

post #123514 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

I really don't agree with this statement. Why would I do that if I can just look up good animes? Ones that are objectively good.

I do watch stuff like SAO etc from time to time but only because they are unintentionally funny. Not to remind me that there are more bad than good animes out there or whatever.

You had me worried for a second.

Oh great, another one of these. You seem to like shows that have a lot of nothing in them with only a few awesome bits in them. That's also Blood-Cs selling point, isn't it? :P

 

There is no such thing as objectively good when it comes to art. It's almost entirely subjective. I consider Rurouni Kenshin to be a great anime; it just has some filler, like most shows do.

 

What? A lot of nothing? Higurashi was pure genius. Blood-C was more simplistic, but both are proficient at what they do. A lack of violence in a given scene does not make it a lot of nothing...

post #123515 of 130117
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Aww, you're having the physics discussions when I'm asleep again...
Nah, you're not as bad as me, so you're not really a narcissist.
In order for you to become more narcissistic you have to become at least as awesome as me.
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I'm over ambitious. Though I don't know what you mean with self conscious in this context. I don't believe in free will, doesn't that make me not self conscious in a way? cool.gif
You do know there's a subscription page on head-fi that does the same but better?
Contradiction in termines right there. Black is exactly the perfect absorbation of light. So you're saying it isn't black because it's black? Huh?



Also not everything is walking distance over here. Most things are biking distance.
Racist.
Well the thing is, air and empty space are very very poor absorbents of light. That's why they appear transparent.
If you put a black body (because that's what we're talking about) in air, it would simply be perceived as a perfectly black object. Nothing more.
They do do curves and loops. Pffft, physics n00b.
No, no, no, my friend. Color space can be accurately represented as a copy of D^2, or I^3, but not R^3. The point is that there exsists a perfect black, for example. Hence it must be a compact space if you think about it.
I personally prefer seeing it as L^2 supported on the unit interval. That is, any square integrable distribution over the visible electromagnetic spectrum.

Yeah, you are correct. 

 

 

I completely forgot about the lack of reflecting rays due to absorption in my original thesis. The moment someone brought that up. I knew I was *****

 

But yea....in reality. It would literally be easy to tell where the hell it is. 

 

I just continued on with my thesis by drawing all the little pieces of whatever I could.....well to keep it alive .

 

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This is true. The one we went to a couple weeks ago was great! Much better than what I remember Samurai Noodle tasting like!

 

 

Music Alchemist mentioned me and PM'd me, so I thought I'd see what was up here.

 

Carry on.

 

 

HE LIVES!
post #123516 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

There is no such thing as objectively good when it comes to art. It's almost entirely subjective. I consider Rurouni Kenshin to be a great anime; it just has some filler, like most shows do.

 

What? A lot of nothing? Higurashi was pure genius. Blood-C was more simplistic, but both are proficient at what they do. A lack of violence in a given scene does not make it a lot of nothing...

There totally is, if you ask me. At least to a certain (very high) degree. When it comes to art, its mostly about liking it or not. But even if you don't like something, you still can admit that it is really good (at least if you have a bit of common sense in you).
I, for example, don't like Apocalypse Now. I thought it was boring and really up its own butt. Do I still acknowledge the FACT that it is a masterpiece? Sure, why not? Who am I to argue with pretty much the rest of the world? In the end, I don't think that it is bad, I just don't like it. Two entirely different things. Too bad a lot of people can't seperate that.
How do you think art/movie or whatever contests work?

I did not mean it that way. You wrote that it the plot does not make sense until I've seen the first two seasons. That is something I don't like though. I dont want to sit through 40 episodes or whatever to finally get how good the plot is.
Same thing goes for Blood-C. You wrote that only the last three episodes have real plot in them. I (and almost all reviewers on MAL) think that this was a pretty bad move.
I don't expect shows to reveal the whole plot with all twists and turns during the first ten minutes. That would be horrible. But 10 or more episodes with just a few hints here and there is a bit too much for me.


Edited by Tom Yum Goong - 8/11/14 at 3:22pm
post #123517 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

There totally is, if you ask me. At least to a certain (very high) degree. When it comes to art, its mostly about liking it or not. But even if you don't like something, you still can admit that it is really good (at least if you have a bit of common sense in you).
I, for example, don't like Apocalypse Now. I thought it was boring and really up its own butt. Do I still acknowledge the FACT that it is a masterpiece? Sure, why not? Who am I to argue with pretty much the rest of the world? In the end, I don't think that it is bad, I just don't like it. Two entirely different things. Too bad a lot of people can't seperate that.

I did not mean it that way. You wrote that it the plot does not make sense until I've seen the first two seasons. That is something I don't like though. I dont want to sit through 40 episodes or whatever to finally get how good the plot is.
Same thing goes for Blood-C. You wrote that only the last three episodes have real plot in them. I (and almost all reviewers on MAL) think that this was a pretty bad move.
I don't expect shows to reveal the whole plot with all twists and turns during the first ten minutes. That would be horrible. But 10 or more episodes with just a few hints here and there is a bit too much for me.

 

Being mesmerized by a plot and finally understanding it are two separate things. Perhaps you like simplistic, easy to understand plots. That's fine, I suppose...

 

No, I said that what is actually going on (deception) is not revealed until the second to last episode. Every episode has plot in it. -_-

 

Again, you have no basis for accurately judging something until you've seen it yourself.

post #123518 of 130117
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

Yeah, you are correct. 

I completely forgot about the lack of reflecting rays due to absorption in my original thesis. The moment someone brought that up. I knew I was *****
But yea....in reality. It would literally be easy to tell where the hell it is. 
I just continued on with my thesis by drawing all the little pieces of whatever I could.....well to keep it alive .


In the vacuum of space it would actually be quite difficult to detect it though. Sonar wouldn't work either in that case.



Also one fundamental flaw. If it perfectly absorbs light, it necessarily also emits light. Though very likely in the infra-red, definitely still very easily detectable by even cheap IR cameras. Wouldn't be crazy for a mecha to have an IR camera, would it?
post #123519 of 130117
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

HE LIVES!

 

OMG, Jesus?

post #123520 of 130117
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

 

HE LIVES!

Okay, who used the Dragonballs?

post #123521 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

Being mesmerized by a plot and finally understanding it are two separate things. Perhaps you like simplistic, easy to understand plots. That's fine, I suppose...

 

Again, you have no basis for accurately judging something until you've seen it yourself.

I'm all about simplistic plots, man. Just look at my MAL profile! Nothing but SoL and comedy shows. Everything with more plot than Nichijou is legit garbage. Face it.

I "judged"(if you want to call it like this) them based on the things you tell me about them.

post #123522 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post


In the vacuum of space it would actually be quite difficult to detect it though. Sonar wouldn't work either in that case.



Also one fundamental flaw. If it perfectly absorbs light, it necessarily also emits light. Though very likely in the infra-red, definitely still very easily detectable by even cheap IR cameras. Wouldn't be crazy for a mecha to have an IR camera, would it?

http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/encyc_mod3_q11.html

 

I think that this article explores something that is good. I wouldn't think it would emit light. But rather that due to how light is absorbed and due to its imperfect mech/humanoid shape. That the absorption would be uneven and 'curved'. Thus causing light 'rings' to eminate from the structure. 

 

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OMG, Jesus?

IT IS HIM, TRACY BE JESUS

post #123523 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

I'm all about simplistic plots, man. Just look at my MAL profile! Nothing but SoL and comedy shows. Everything with more plot than Nichijou is legit garbage. Face it.

I "judged"(if you want to call it like this) them based on the things you tell me about them.

 

I do hope you're kidding about not enjoying plots more sophisticated than a children's show...

 

Alright, let me simplify things for you. Both Higurashi and Blood-C generally contain a little bit of everything in each episode: comedy, slice of life, action, horror, drama, etc. (I'm generalizing here; I know more categories than that exist.) Unless you refuse to watch any of those genres, you would at least enjoy some of it.

post #123524 of 130117
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post

http://hubblesite.org/explore_astronomy/black_holes/encyc_mod3_q11.html

I think that this article explores something that is good. I wouldn't think it would emit light. But rather that due to how light is absorbed and due to its imperfect mech/humanoid shape. That the absorption would be uneven and 'curved'. Thus causing light 'rings' to eminate from the structure. 

Naw. The point is that the particles in the mecha are acting like a perfect black body -- not a black hole. Well of course is BS sci-fi, but no way to know for sure. But the point is that physically speaking black holes are far more difficult to create and tinker with than black bodies are -- even if no perfect black bodies have ever been found AFAIK.
And a black body emits light at the average temperature of the body. Given that it's on earth (or at least I think it is -- haven't seen the anime), it would probably be around 20 degrees celcius give or take 30 degrees. A large black body at those temperatures is easily detectable.

The better you absorb light, the more you emit it. This is a simple result of statistical physics. And it's caused by such a fundamental thing that no matter how fancy your sci-fi gets, you ain't gonna stop this from happening.

Now black holes are different. They are real weird. But if you wanna cover a mecha in black holes -- even a very thin layer, you run into two problems:
1) the black holes will be super short lived. In the order of fractions of nano seconds.
2) the mecha will become so massive it would rival the mass of the planet it is on itself

So yeah. Black bodies, not black holes.
post #123525 of 130117
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

I do hope you're kidding about not enjoying plots more sophisticated than a children's show...

 

Alright, let me simplify things for you. Both Higurashi and Blood-C generally contain a little bit of everything in each episode: comedy, slice of life, action, horror, drama, etc. (I'm generalizing here; I know more categories than that exist.) Unless you refuse to watch any of those genres, you would at least enjoy some of it.

I do hope you were kidding when you proposed that I only like simplistic plots....
If not, do yourself a favor and look at my MAL list.
I think you are the first person ever to call Nichijou a children's show.

I'm well aware of that.

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