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Good to know. So it's more about the sound signature of which amp you use than how much power it has. I knew this, of course, in terms of synergy, but just thought there was something more intricate about it all. On the other hand, if all amps do is amplify the signal as you say, wouldn't that mean all amps sound the same? This is clearly not the case. I wonder which amps are the most neutral aside from HeadAmp, which I always hear about.

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All ideal amps do is amplify the signal, and yes, all ideal amps should sound the same.... in the land of theory.

post #120722 of 151121
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Really...? I don't remember FMA being all that violent but I guess definitions varies.

 

Fullmetal Alchemist (the first anime with a mostly original story) is not what I was referring to; I was referring to Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (the second anime faithful to the manga) when I said FMAB.

 

I also said that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is ten times more gory than Daughters Of Mnemosyne, but less extreme overall.

post #120723 of 151121
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Originally Posted by b1o2r3i4s5 View Post
 

Correction:

All ideal amps do is amplify the signal, and yes, all ideal amps should sound the same.... in the land of theory.

 

I used the word "if", though, to prove a point. :wink_face:

post #120724 of 151121
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Actually, I tried to overlook the gratuitous sex/violence while watching and enjoyed the plot somewhat. The Wikipedia link provided above summarizes it.

 

Although FMAB is more violent than Fate/Zero, I mentioned before that the latter probably has more action. (You dismissed FMAB as being too shounen and whatnot, and if all that means is more action, then you're not entirely correct, if you enjoyed Fate/Zero.)

That's the kind of stuff I can hardly overlook.

Action ≠ Action

post #120725 of 151121
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Look at that beautiful graph..... It's nearly a pure resistive load in the AF region.
Like some of the AKG headphones that I measured myself. (which I'm a HUGE fan of tongue.gif )
Yeah I know, right? A flat impedance curve is always nice to see. Flat is justice! : D
What AKGs did you measure?


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They don't because not all of them are built with the sam parts etc.

Just a wild guess.

Which is entirely my point. If amplification does nothing but boost the volume (I am not one to make such assumptions), that would mean all amps sound the same and merely perform that function. There is more going on here. I don't claim to know what. That is a question for the experts.
Well as I said, 99% of the amp comparisons out there are not properly volume-matched and tested as such. People just blindly decide amp A "sounds better" than amp B by subjective reasoning.

I posted my impressions of the DX90 vs iPod 5G + JDS Labs C5D volume matched at 1 kHz and A/B-ed directly with the same song, and they're nearly the same in terms of sound quality with full-sized headphones. If I post that almost anywhere else around Head-Fi, it would probably start a flame war with a whole bunch of DX90 people defending it.
Edited by miceblue - 7/28/14 at 10:44am
post #120726 of 151121
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That's the kind of stuff I can hardly overlook.

Action ≠ Action

 

If you have a point to make, perhaps you should spell it out more clearly.

post #120727 of 151121
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Originally Posted by Music Alchemist View Post
 

 

Fullmetal Alchemist (the first anime with a mostly original story) is not what I was referring to; I was referring to Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (the second anime faithful to the manga) when I said FMAB.

 

I also said that Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is ten times more gory than Daughters Of Mnemosyne, but less extreme overall.

I refer to both of them by the same name ;)

 

My most memorable thing from Mnemosyne was zombies and red flying balls.

and my most memorable thing from FMA was magic circles and red rocks.

That's about all I remember from the shows lol.

post #120728 of 151121
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Well as I said, 99% of the amp comparisons out there are not properly volume-matched and tested as such. People just blindly decide amp A "sounds better" than amp B by subjective reasoning.

I posted my impressions of the DX90 vs iPod 5G + JDS Labs C5D and they're nearly the same in terms of sound quality with full-sized headphones. If I post that almost anywhere else around Head-Fi, it would probably start a flame war with a whole bunch of DX90 people defending it.

 

So all you need to do to properly compare amps is make sure they are producing the same volume level?

 

I'm not surprised at all about the comparison you made. Some of those portable amps/DACs are rather good, after all.

post #120729 of 151121
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Flat is justice! : D

Brother! :'D

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Nekos! Yes!
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@Boris: My phone wallpaper, thought you asked.

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mmm...


Allow me to expatiate; sometimes I wish I lived in an anime fantasy world. XD

Better lol.
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Can you guys help me find some electronic music such as EDM or Trance.

Best,

Andre

http://m.soundcloud.com/beatsantique
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I wish my sister was still alive... :'(
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And I wish my dad would still be alive.

Anyone else want to jump on the "I have dead first grade relatives"-train?

I wish my grandmother was still alive and well.
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post #120731 of 151121
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I refer to both of them by the same name ;)

 

My most memorable thing from Mnemosyne was zombies and red flying balls.

and my most memorable thing from FMA was magic circles and red rocks.

That's about all I remember from the shows lol.

 

You can't refer to them both by the same name when discussing anime, because they are two different series. The second one is much, much better (and more extreme too) than the other, according to the vast majority of fans who have seen both.

 

If you don't remember more than those few details, how would you remember how violent they were?

 

I would go into detail comparing the violence level of all these anime, complete with screenshots, but it probably wouldn't be allowed.

post #120732 of 151121
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If you have a point to make, perhaps you should spell it out more clearly.

It's not only about the amount of violence. It's also the type.
While I can't get enough of e.g. the fighting scenes in Kara no Kyoukai, the ones in Dragonball Z are just an absolute chore to watch.

post #120733 of 151121
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Yeah I know, right? A flat impedance curve is always nice to see. Flat is justice! : D
What AKGs did you measure?

K518s They were my 2nd pair of headphones.

post #120734 of 151121
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And refer to my previous comment about how a "better" amp often usually just means better synergy with a headphone and not necessarily hearing what the headphone is "supposed" to sound like. If there isn't more to amplification that merely boosting the volume, then please feel free to enlighten me and everyone here on Head-Fi about what else an amplifier is supposed to do. The last time I checked, the definition of an amplifier was to, well, provide amplification; perhaps it's changed over the years though, I dunno.

I was talking to a friend the other day that for other headphones, power linearity might be an issue with differences in impedance at different frequencies, but for a single resistor, such as pretty much all planar magnetic headphones, that doesn't matter at all.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/JPSLabsAbyssAB1266.pdf



So yeah, if you have any logical explanation for the above, then I would like to be enlightened about it, but as of right now, I'm pretty sure differences in amplifiers are just synergy differences and that 99% of the comparisons out there don't try other headphones with those same amps and volume match others.

The person you've quoted there is a really nice guy, very cool, and he attends many of the local meets. That's also the person who thought there was an audible difference between 24-bit and 16-bit audio until a proper test A/B test was done and the results ended up pretty much on-par with other proper tests: you can't hear a difference. I listened to the Abyss on the same exact setup as described, with the same exact song, and it was really aggressive-sounding to me with a punchier bass. I heard the same thing with that user's Fostex TH-900 as well as the HD650; again, it's the amp itself that sounds different, not the power, and that particular amp was probably one of the better-sounding ones at the meet. No one else tried the Abyss on the ODAC/O2 since I was in the corner on the short table, and so no one else got to hear what I heard.

I'll post this here again because it can be quite informative.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/724199/hd800-being-picky-with-amps-myth

 

Good to know. So it's more about the sound signature of which amp you use than how much power it has. I knew this, of course, in terms of synergy, but just thought there was something more intricate about it all. On the other hand, if all amps do is amplify the signal as you say, wouldn't that mean all amps sound the same? This is clearly not the case. I wonder which amps are the most neutral aside from HeadAmp, which I always hear about.

They should all sound the same, but rather they choose not to. For the same reason that people saying that certain headphones "does not work" with certain amp or DAC pairing.

post #120735 of 151121
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

It's not only about the amount of violence. It's also the type.
While I can't get enough of e.g. the fighting scenes in Kara no Kyoukai, the ones in Dragonball Z are just an absolute chore to watch.

 

Speaking of which...seeing everything Dragon Ball was indeed a chore, but worth the trouble for me, just to experience the better moments in the franchise.

 

As for FMAB, it would be a horrible decision to judge something you have never watched through even once. It's my favorite anime series of all time for a reason. :bigsmile_face:


Edited by Music Alchemist - 7/28/14 at 10:55am
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