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post #108541 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Also: Why would anyone buy this thing?
http://kotaku.com/nvidia-debuts-the-gtx-titan-z-a-3-000-video-card-for-1551309130

 

4k 120 FPS. Because you can.

post #108542 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Also: Why would anyone buy this thing?
http://kotaku.com/nvidia-debuts-the-gtx-titan-z-a-3-000-video-card-for-1551309130

Why wouldn't you? 

 

Serious answer from me by the way.

 

This is akin to the LCD3 or other stuff like that. If someone that often uses $10 headphones says 'Why would anyone buy this thing' referring to the LCD3, do you think it means much?

 

It's all about market, perception, and industry.

 

That $3000 card ISN'T for the person that is going to ask why anyone would buy it. That card is for the person that sees it and NEEDs it. It's a different industry niche and market target all together. And this is fantastic. This is preciesely the laws of the market and demand.

 

This card full fills a highly specific function that specific people need. Note the 12GB Vram on it. The Titan and Titan Black are single GPU systems sporting only 6GB. With the advent of multi 4K TV setups. The 6GB on those cards is barely cutting it. So here comes the Titan Z with 12GB of Vram. This most likely is just the 6GB of Vram native to each card but because Nvidia has now been able to intergrate them onto a single board, that means both the 'memory' can now be accessible whereas it could not be before. The only reason Vram mirroring is done in SLI or Crossfire is due to bandwith and speed issues. The multi cards alternate betwen rendering frames. However the memory isn't fast enough to load different versions of the game or file onto both and use it, and therefore both cards need to use their memory space to host the same config inside and access it before rendering. Nvidia and AMD can sometimes fix this by intergrating it onto one card.

 

It full fills a niche, and targets a market. But you may ask, $3K? What if Nvidia starts overcharging all their schiit like this? Then they fail and a competitor takes them down. Market economy and the laws of the world. Example in Audio being FiiO. Each fullfilling a target market or gap in the market at the price people will pay for. Nvidia is smart. Notice how only its upper echelon cards are priced at this price with the others being highly  competetive in an up and down mouse game with AMD over card prices every quarter. 

 

This shows a healthy economy right now for GPU's. (healthy being working, not that it is overly awesome and daisys). In where despite so few PC Enthusiasts around the world, and even fewer of the few using cards that top performance of X that they can still push this out in a mega announcement and make good profit off of. 

 

Also note that Nvidia/AMD often rebrand and slightly modify the cards or drivers of their top cards to become workstation cards with official industry certifications that they then charge 10x the price of to industries. Also showing healthy industry economy (healthy meaning working, there probably is a bubble of sorts though)

post #108543 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post


How about skipping the baking the part of the cake and go straight to eating while watching that movie?

I mean I could eat the apples and the walnuts raw, but I think they would taste even better cakeified (that's a word).

post #108544 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Ra97oR View Post


Nagi Nagi so good, listening to it right now.

Vidro Moyou here as well

 

SOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOD

post #108545 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post

I mean I could eat the apples and the walnuts raw, but I think they would taste even better cakeified (that's a word).

You seem to not understand.

Just skip the baking.


Who says you need to bake a cake before you can eat it? You can also spend money you do not own, so why not eat cakes that have not yet been 'fabricated'?
post #108546 of 152013
Just caught up:


1) Saki has PLENTY of mahjong, and it's fantabulous!

2) I pre-ordered a Titan Z already* :-|

3) Boris needs to stop learning languages, he's going to turn into a cyborg if he keeps it up.



* I lied.
post #108547 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post

Just caught up:


1) Saki has PLENTY of mahjong, and it's fantabulous!

2) I pre-ordered a Titan Z already* :-|

3) Boris needs to stop learning languages, he's going to turn into a cyborg if he keeps it up.



* I lied.

 

If you had actually pre-ordered one. I would have asked for donations for a fund. :rolleyes:

 

Unless you are the people I specifically spoke about in my post up top and knows exactly what you are buying and want. the Titan Z is a stupid investment for gamers running anything that doesn't have 4K monitors in multi. Or is just a massive show off or something.

 

The Titan Blacks are $1k each and would make a better investment (better, not best) for those that are running 3 4K UHD (there may be problems I have heard with three 4K UHD with only 6GB of Vram) while the Z for those running possibly more.

 

At that point, you would have so much money that it wouldn't matter

post #108548 of 152013
Time for my most recent completed series review/impression.

Alright my AAMML Neko-fanatics, today we have...... Asobi ni Ikuyo! (Let's go Play). I would recommend setting your expectations based on that title, that's what I did and I enjoyed the show. Here we have a classic harem anime setup where an sexy alien befriends a teenage boy and stuff happens.

The animation from AIC here was really good, well above average in my opinion. The character designs were pretty standard fare with the Japanese long black haired bishoujo, the short brown haired feisty childhood friend..... you know how this works by now I'm sure.

So what set's this show apart from all the other ecchi harem anime I have seen? Mostly the Neko factor, but I felt the characters were handled in an interesting enough way to keep me engaged, particularly Futaba Aoi. She is much like Yami in To Love Ru, but more human and a lot less dandere. Given more than 12 episodes, her arc could have been really good as she had a lot of baggage to work through.

Note, there was a ton of nudity in the Blu-ray release. I was really surprised, they give Highschool DxD a run for it's money.

7/10

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Edited by Muinarc - 3/25/14 at 1:36pm
post #108549 of 152013
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Why wouldn't you? 

Serious answer from me by the way.

This is akin to the LCD3 or other stuff like that. If someone that often uses $10 headphones says 'Why would anyone buy this thing' referring to the LCD3, do you think it means much?

It's all about market, perception, and industry.

That $3000 card ISN'T for the person that is going to ask why anyone would buy it. That card is for the person that sees it and NEEDs it. It's a different industry niche and market target all together. And this is fantastic. This is preciesely the laws of the market and demand.

This card full fills a highly specific function that specific people need. Note the 12GB Vram on it. The Titan and Titan Black are single GPU systems sporting only 6GB. With the advent of multi 4K TV setups. The 6GB on those cards is barely cutting it. So here comes the Titan Z with 12GB of Vram. This most likely is just the 6GB of Vram native to each card but because Nvidia has now been able to intergrate them onto a single board, that means both the 'memory' can now be accessible whereas it could not be before. The only reason Vram mirroring is done in SLI or Crossfire is due to bandwith and speed issues. The multi cards alternate betwen rendering frames. However the memory isn't fast enough to load different versions of the game or file onto both and use it, and therefore both cards need to use their memory space to host the same config inside and access it before rendering. Nvidia and AMD can sometimes fix this by intergrating it onto one card.

It full fills a niche, and targets a market. But you may ask, $3K? What if Nvidia starts overcharging all their schiit like this? Then they fail and a competitor takes them down. Market economy and the laws of the world. Example in Audio being FiiO. Each fullfilling a target market or gap in the market at the price people will pay for. Nvidia is smart. Notice how only its upper echelon cards are priced at this price with the others being highly  competetive in an up and down mouse game with AMD over card prices every quarter. 

This shows a healthy economy right now for GPU's. (healthy being working, not that it is overly awesome and daisys). In where despite so few PC Enthusiasts around the world, and even fewer of the few using cards that top performance of X that they can still push this out in a mega announcement and make good profit off of. 

Also note that Nvidia/AMD often rebrand and slightly modify the cards or drivers of their top cards to become workstation cards with official industry certifications that they then charge 10x the price of to industries. Also showing healthy industry economy (healthy meaning working, there probably is a bubble of sorts though)

Multi 4K TV setups. I don't even know what to say about that.
But all power to these money ****ting excentrics.
 

Hooray for prestige objects with ridiculous prices.

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Originally Posted by Tilpo View Post


You seem to not understand.
Just skip the baking.
Who says you need to bake a cake before you can eat it? You can also spend money you do not own, so why not eat cakes that have not yet been 'fabricated'?

I already bought all the ingredients though.

post #108550 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Multi 4K TV setups. I don't even know what to say about that.
But all power to these money ****ting excentrics.
 

Hooray for prestige objects with ridiculous prices.

I already bought all the ingredients though.

I wouldn't buy one of those things but yeah. Those that will have and will need MASSIVE cash flow to do it

 

I just looked up the benchmark for a single GTX Titan Black (the chip the Titan Z will be dropping two into) and...yeah, the law of diminishing returns is a bi***

 

I get about 85-90% of the performance of a GTX Titan Black ($1,000) and I paid $208 for my two cards. GRANTING that I'm limited by support for crossfireX in games and will have to wait for good support usually and have problems here and there with drivers and Crossfire and that some games can't use both cards...but the games that generally don't support CrossfireX also will run already at great settings with a single one of my cards which is basically a R9 270x($270). Also noting that I am also limited by the 2GB's I have as Vram mirroring comes into effect

 

so yeah. The Titan Z will be sold to those with the money bags for it. 

 

 

Law of diminishing returns is a ***** in the realm of GPU's where unlike in headphones, you can see an objective visual representation of just how much of a premium you are paying. 

post #108551 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post

Time for my most recent completed series review/impression.

Alright my AAMML Neko-fanatics, today we have...... Asobi ni Ikuyo! (Let's go Play). I would recommend setting your expectations based on that title, that's what I did and I enjoyed the show. Here we have a classic harem anime setup where an sexy alien befriends a teenage boy and stuff happens.

The animation from AIC here was really good, well above average in my opinion. The character designs were pretty standard fare with the Japanese long black haired bishoujo, the short brown haired feisty childhood friend..... you know how this works by now I'm sure.

So what set's this show apart from all the other ecchi harem anime I have seen? Mostly the Neko factor, but I felt the characters were handled in an interesting enough way to keep me engaged, particularly Futaba Aoi. She is much like Yami in To Love Ru, but more human and a lot less dandere. Given more than 12 episodes, her arc could have been really good as she had a lot of baggage to work through.

Note, there was a ton of nudity in the Blu-ray release. I was really surprised, they give Highschool DxD a run for it's money.

7/10
 

(I'm posting this every time you post a series impression/review btw)

 

A few of us here including me have seen it. For some reason, despite how bland it was, it was pretty memorable. It was an enjoyable to watch airing show if you are into that stuff. If you liked ToLoveRU, you will like this just as much if not a bit more thanks to slightly less promiscuity. 

 

Really? Schiit, I kinda want the Blu-Ray release now....dayumm -______-

post #108552 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Muinarc View Post

Time for my most recent completed series review/impression.
Alright my AAMML Neko-fanatics, today we have...... Asobi ni Ikuyo! (Let's go Play). I would recommend setting your expectations based on that title, that's what I did and I enjoyed the show. Here we have a classic harem anime setup where an sexy alien befriends a teenage boy and stuff happens.
The animation from AIC here was really good, well above average in my opinion. The character designs were pretty standard fare with the Japanese long black haired bishoujo, the short brown haired feisty childhood friend..... you know how this works by now I'm sure.
So what set's this show apart from all the other ecchi harem anime I have seen? Mostly the Neko factor, but I felt the characters were handled in an interesting enough way to keep me engaged, particularly Futaba Aoi. She is much like Yami in To Love Ru, but more human and a lot less dandere. Given more than 12 episodes, her arc could have been really good as she had a lot of baggage to work through.
Note, there was a ton of nudity in the Blu-ray release. I was really surprised, they give Highschool DxD a run for it's money.
7/10

Neko-stuff or not, this sounds like a show I don't want to watch. :)

 

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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

I wouldn't buy one of those things but yeah. Those that will have and will need MASSIVE cash flow to do it

I just looked up the benchmark for a single GTX Titan Black (the chip the Titan Z will be dropping two into) and...yeah, the law of diminishing returns is a bi***

+1

post #108553 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Neko-stuff or not, this sounds like a show I don't want to watch. :)

 

+1

Seroiusly, once you see how bad uber premium cards are for the typical enthusiast gamer, you will be like wtf.

 

Obviously the high end cards with ultra premiums will sate those that will buy them. But for the most part, there is a reason why lower-mid level cards are some of the most popular cards used in 'real' PC Gaming. 

 

I don't buy anything in PC Enthusiasm above upper-mid. That's where the slope goes to Mt. Everest levels.

 

As for general PC Gaming, Intel HD and other intergrated on-die dedicated GPU's take the spot for most popular GPU as per the newest STEAM Hardware survey.

post #108554 of 152013
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Originally Posted by bowei006 View Post
 

Seroiusly, once you see how bad uber premium cards are for the typical enthusiast gamer, you will be like wtf.

Obviously the high end cards with ultra premiums will sate those that will buy them. But for the most part, there is a reason why lower-mid level cards are some of the most popular cards used in 'real' PC Gaming. 

I don't buy anything in PC Enthusiasm above upper-mid. That's where the slope goes to Mt. Everest levels.

As for general PC Gaming, Intel HD and other intergrated on-die dedicated GPU's take the spot for most popular GPU as per the newest STEAM Hardware survey.

Oh I'm totally aware of that.
Another problem with this is that you buy one of these super-cards because you want to get the maximum visual quality out of the games you play, but a few months after you buy it, a new DirectX version gets released that your new card doesn't support.
GG.

 


Pretty much sums up my thoughts on this anime.
Looks super great but that's about it (I really liked all the weird filters they slapped over everything).
I wonder if the movie is going to be any better.

http://www.japanator.com/review-k-dvd-blu-ray-complete-series-31966.phtml


Edited by Tom Yum Goong - 3/25/14 at 2:18pm
post #108555 of 152013
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Originally Posted by Tom Yum Goong View Post
 

Oh I'm totally aware of that.
Another problem with this is that you buy one of these super-cards because you want to get the maximum visual quality out of the games you play, but a few months after you buy it, a new DirectX version gets released that your new card doesn't support.
GG.

 


Pretty much sums up my thoughts on this anime.
Looks super great but that's about it.
I wonder if the movie is going to be any better.

http://www.japanator.com/review-k-dvd-blu-ray-complete-series-31966.phtml

That stuff doesn't really matter much.

 

The changes are generally very small with the biggest update being DX9 and DX11. The schiit in between is often never used or used only in limited amounts. 

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